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Posted by disko-kandi on Mar-13-2005 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Nice guys unite!!!

Why is it that our society labels nice people as being weak? Why is it that our society labels nice people as having "alterior motives"?


i haven't taken the time to read thru this collossal thread, but please define
N-I-C-E !


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-13-2005 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by disko-kandi
i haven't taken the time to read thru this collossal thread, but please define
N-I-C-E !




nice guy = DJ Kurfew


Posted by LittlePoonzgirl on Mar-13-2005 18:04:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


nice guy = DJ Kurfew



+1


Posted by cono_sur on Mar-13-2005 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
.....Girls want a nice guy who is not a wuss. Period.


So true.


Posted by disko-kandi on Mar-13-2005 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


nice guy = DJ Kurfew




did you find this definition in the dictionary?

but it still doesn't answer my question. how can that question be answered when NICE can term ANYTHING and ANYBODY?!

what is NICE?

...i also had a nice sandwich this morning!


Posted by Cal on Mar-13-2005 18:15:

A nice guy is someone who is corteous(sp?) to girls, someone who laughs at their jokes, gives them a break, makes their lives easier by being ready to do anything in his power if they ask him, does the flowers/dinners/gifts shtick, councils them on their problems, and just treats them like a gentleman.

Which is what women don't want in a man, incidentally


Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-13-2005 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by LittlePoonzgirl
I like nice guys, just not doormats. People really should be who they are and that includes not acting like an ass just to get the girl, or letting girls walk all over you for the hopes of getting noticed. Be who you are and someone out there will love you



exactly


Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-13-2005 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Cal
A nice guy is someone who is corteous(sp?) to girls, someone who laughs at their jokes, gives them a break, makes their lives easier by being ready to do anything in his power if they ask him, does the flowers/dinners/gifts shtick, councils them on their problems, and just treats them like a gentleman.



No thats a doormat.

A nice guy treats people with respect, doesnt play the mind games that girls want them to play, and generally makes people feel good about themselves.

That is a nice guy.

That doesnt mean he has to put up with bullshit. But there should be a line that should have to be crossed before you turn on the aggressive side.

Again, being a laid back and generally good natured person is pretty much associated with being a pushover or a wuss. What i am saying is that it's not so.


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-13-2005 19:21:

^ That may be how YOU define a "nice guy", and I'd imagine that's what women really mean most of the time when they say they like nice guys, but when people say "nice guys finish last" or "they always fall for the assholes and ignore the nice guys", they are usually using the definition that Cal posted.

quote:
Originally posted by disko-kandi
...i also had a nice sandwich this morning!

And that would be a prime example of grammatically incorrect use of the wordthat has weaselled its way into common use, sort of like impact being used as a verb.

If you're going to nit pick, at least be correct.


Posted by TheVrk on Mar-13-2005 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by LittlePoonzgirl
Be who you are and someone out there will love you

This is ALL u need to know


Posted by richard raiban on Mar-13-2005 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
And that would be a prime example of grammatically incorrect use of the wordthat has weaselled its way into common use, sort of like impact being used as a verb.

If you're going to nit pick, at least be correct.


diginut, be NICE


Posted by 8Wonders on Mar-13-2005 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
No thats a doormat.

A nice guy treats people with respect, doesnt play the mind games that girls want them to play, and generally makes people feel good about themselves.

That is a nice guy.

That doesnt mean he has to put up with bullshit. But there should be a line that should have to be crossed before you turn on the aggressive side.

Again, being a laid back and generally good natured person is pretty much associated with being a pushover or a wuss. What i am saying is that it's not so.


That should be how 'nice guys' are portrayed, but unfortunately it's not. What Cal posted is a more 'mainstream' definition of the term.

All that really matters is that YOU know which of the two you are, fuck everyone else.


Posted by disko-kandi on Mar-13-2005 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

And that would be a prime example of grammatically incorrect use of the wordthat has weaselled its way into common use, sort of like impact being used as a verb.

If you're going to nit pick, at least be correct.


aaaw you're such a NICE guy, digi!

thanks for taking the time to correct my grammar mistake, which is, - BTW - by way of an example, part of my argument and hence 'legit' in this case. that's exactly the point i'm trying to prove since the term 'nice' can be & is being used for anything and anybody in our every day language B/C there seems to be a misunderstanding/ misconception by both genders of what it actually means for a guy to be NICE.

oh yea...and one last thought: there's different degrees of 'nice-ness'. overbearing nice-ness makes me wanna barf; it's too much. i have to start thinking about the 'second agenda' and the return-of-favour-expectations.

being nice means being genuine!

know yourself & respect yourself then being nice is not such a hard thing to do & to receive!


Posted by Cal on Mar-13-2005 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
No thats a doormat.

A nice guy treats people with respect, doesnt play the mind games that girls want them to play, and generally makes people feel good about themselves.

That is a nice guy.

That doesnt mean he has to put up with bullshit. But there should be a line that should have to be crossed before you turn on the aggressive side.

Again, being a laid back and generally good natured person is pretty much associated with being a pushover or a wuss. What i am saying is that it's not so.


Oh ok now were getting somewhere, its finally clear what a nice guy means for us.

Your definition of "nice guy" is pretty close to my definition of man," which is what every guy that wants to get with the ladies should strive to be. But I'll leave you with this:

1. DOMINANCE
2. CONFIDENCE
3. HUMOUR
4. LOOKS

These four traits determine how you affect the ladies.
Score low in the top three, and you're just not as interesting to the girl.
So when you "respect" the girl by asking what she wants to do for your date, you dip in your dominance and confidence levels in her eyes, and she thinks less of you.
When you "respect" her feelings and try to work them out with her, you again score low, and she starts thinking of you more like a girlfriend of hers than a potential mate.

Just a couple of thoughts to maybe think about what "respect" is, and what things are needed to be done to "make her feel good."


Posted by The Highroller on Mar-13-2005 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by richard raiban
diginut, be NICE


Raiban to the rescue!




Posted by DigiNut on Mar-13-2005 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by richard raiban
diginut, be NICE

Define nice.


Posted by TheVrk on Mar-14-2005 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Define nice.


To me? All it means is treating someone with RESPECT


Posted by LKD on Mar-14-2005 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Define nice.



nice is teh exterior display of somethign u (in most cases) dont really mean...


her: "I think i put on some weight...is my bum fat?"

him: "no its just right, always turns me on.."


thats nice...


this is being better than nice:

her: "I think i put on some weight...is my bum fat?"

him:"no shit sherlock...stop stuffing ur face"


Posted by The Highroller on Mar-14-2005 01:46:

Is anyone else but me getting tired of this, "Why do nice guys finish last?" sob story?

If you can't get girls, try a different approach. Maybe the "lets do everything she asks, let her be obnoxious when she wants" approach isn't working out so well. Saying something like "girls only date assholes" is pretty immature.

Sure, there are girls that date assholes because they like to be abused. They like drama in their lives. Why are you going for these types of girls? BELIEVE ME, you don't want them to be your girlfriend. They've got their fair share of problems.



The reason "nice guys" are so "nice" is because they hardly ever get girls coming to them. So when they do, they treat her like absolute royalty in hope that she will stay with them. It's hard to do anything but kiss her feat when she's the only girl that has talked to you as more than a friend in the past 6 months.

We want things we can't have. Although you may want the girl really badly because it's the first one in a while, you can't show that. You have to make them feel that you're in demand. They want to have the guy other girls are looking at, not the one that no one is looking at. It makes them feel like they're settling for the guy that no one else wanted.


Posted by Ub3rBreaker on Mar-14-2005 02:20:

all i gotta say is be a lil bit more aggressive...

If u like the girl/boy make a move, let them know ur business. Dont let the game go on for too long. If things dont turn out as good as u expected, shit, atleast now u can move on to something else. Dont have the hots for someone and do nothign about it, that just leads to depression and wondering if things could have ever gone well. You eventually find someone that will feel the same way and want to give it a try.

The whole "nobody loves me" boy/girl problems are for most part ridiculous. If that person doesnt like you, fuck it, we still young and there is plenty of other people out there that will.


Posted by trancechaos on Mar-14-2005 02:49:


Posted by ninjahola on Mar-14-2005 02:52:

Nice girls finish last too.....


Posted by Enraptured on Mar-14-2005 02:52:

He's back!

Dude, I thought you were a NICE guy!


Posted by Ub3rBreaker on Mar-14-2005 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by trancechaos


LOUD NOISES!


Posted by Enraptured on Mar-14-2005 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ninjahola
Nice girls finish last too.....


That's because they haven't met ME yet.


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