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Got bored by 3rd page, so just to add my 2p

candykids/their foreign counterparts arent to be ousted just because you dont like how they look.

One of the things that drew me to the club scene was teh acceptance of different types of people.

Just because I dont go all lumo-coloured clothing with coloured dots on my face doesnt mean I should look down on those that do.

Elitism is a growing problem in the EDM scene, especially with loser chinstrokers who dont even know how to have a good time, because they cant dance and know they would look like idiots if they tried. So they sit back and moan about the people who are having a good time.

'Candykids', and I use the term loosley for the time being, happen to be an integral part of UK clubbing culture. Like them or loathe them, they make up the majority of clubbers in the hardhouse/trance scene, whereas the more 'upmarket' types with designer labels tend to be more breaks/prog orientated. The UK house scene is funnily enough not as superficial as one would think, if you avoid the commercialised side of it like Hed Kandi and Miss Monepennys.

I'm not a candykid, I have never been one either (they dont really exist in SA where I started clubbing), but I like the enjoy myself when I go out, I dance my ass off and often use glowsticks because in the right hands they look pretty wikkid.

*Kicks the soap box out from under Krysta_101's feet*

Now quit yer whining

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 Mhm... And someone has a problem with me, heh, who doesn't these days?

I dont really have a problem with you......i just feel you judge people simply by the way they dress...i am sure you can name at least 2 friends who act immature in clubs that are not candy ravers....all i am saying is dont judge others on appearances.

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 Mhm... And someone has a problem with me, heh, who doesn't these days?

Get nekkid and all problems will be absolved.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Elitisn is a growing problem in the EDM scene, especially with loser chinstrokers who dont even know how to have a good time, because they cant dance and know they would look like idiots if they tried. So they sit back and moan about the people who are having a good time.

EXCATLEY...i know the type.....good point.

Just read some of page 4

People under 21 shouldnt be allowed in clubs?

WTF!!!

That means 5 out of my 6.5 years clubbing I shouldnt have been allowed to do?

Just because the US is so up it's arse with their stupid age laws (Sure, drive a car and have a gun before you are allowed to have a drink ) doesnt mean the world's clubscene should abide to them.

Mebbe that'll be Bush's next agenda, 'The War on Age Limits in Foreign Countries'

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Originally posted by tiesto14 I dont really have a problem with you......i just feel you judge people simply by the way they dress...i am sure you can name at least 2 friends who act immature in clubs that are not candy ravers....all i am saying is dont judge others on appearances.

i agree, i think its silly if u think u can post some pics of people in baggy pants and based on that assume we're all gonna back u up on ne thing u say so to speak

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean no one makes 10 million dollars a year just playing a sport. They get all that money from sponsors, tv comercials, ads, etc.

The England captain David Beckham gets �120,000 a week whihc i think is $240,000 so thats �480,000 ($960,000) a month which in a year totals at...

a whopping �5760000 ($11520000).

plus he has his sponsors, Gillette, Addidas, Pepsi + more.

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Originally posted by JakeC The England captain David Beckham gets �120,000 a week whihc i think is $240,000 so thats �480,000 ($960,000) a month which in a year totals at... a whopping �5760000 ($11520000). plus he has his sponsors, Gillette, Addidas, Pepsi + more.

get ready for the 1001 replys on how he doesnt deserve it....

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Originally posted by ESMdjm600 get ready for the 1001 replys on how he doesnt deserve it....

You knows it

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Originally posted by ESMdjm600 get ready for the 1001 replys on how he doesnt deserve it....

He definetly doesnt.

Its because he plyas for the Best team in the world, who have an infinite budget.

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Originally posted by JakeC He definetly doesnt. Its because he plyas for the Best team in the world, who have an infinite budget.

ok i mite actually agree with u, but now u must prepare for the 1001 threads... well u get the picture...

Re: Why EDM is dead in America?

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 When you go to a club these days in the States you see those damn kandii girls whom I detest. You know, those ones who snorted their prescribed ritalin, jump around shouting "plur!" and chew on their glowsticks. They also tend to look like rejected extras from the movie Party Monster.

Music is about music. It shouldn't be about how you look, what race you are, or how new the club is. Good music should make people dance and forget about all the other bullshit in life.

Krysta_101 what you said is crass.


Your attitude Krysta_101 is central to understanding the cultural problems in the mainstream club culture; which is an emphasis on image rather than music.


Thus the reason why underground parties are so central to EDM. Underground eliminates all the bullshit which is dear to mainstram clubs ( i.e. image and location)


If you want good music in some pompous and crass enviroment good luck because its a pompous and crass enviroment for a reason.




P.S.


The clubs in Chicago ( in my understanding) , aside from Vision and Sound Bar, have a primary focus on creating a scene and image foremost.95% of the clubs/lounges in Chicago don't care for music. They appeal to the masses ( i.e. what to do or how to appear to make a $$$)

Its all the same bullshit every year. A club gets hyped up in Chicago because it new or because xyz people go there to party. It plays shit music but its 'trendy'.


Like CT Princeess said the HEART of Chicago is Underground.

everyone mustve went to lunch... or dinner depending on your location....

Meh, I just had lunch and am dealing with random shit at work currently. So replies are sporadic as I'm sure you can see

u know somethin else i just thought of.... a lot of djs dont dress classy.... would u rip on them for it?

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Originally posted by ESMdjm600 u know somethin else i just thought of.... a lot of djs dont dress classy.... would u rip on them for it?

Ummm, most djs don't dress like kandii ravers. And why is everyone focusing on just one part of the whole statement? It's growing rather tiresome rather quickly.

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 Ummm, most djs don't dress like kandii ravers. And why is everyone focusing on just one part of the whole statement? It's growing rather tiresome rather quickly.

Because your initial claim was so patently absurd and we called you on it.
To be honest i don;t know what your other point is.

Re: Why EDM is dead in America?

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 me on the far left, Keri, then Kristy (oh yeah, the KKK is back, and some of us are in black, whoda thunk it?)

Wanna **** ?

I really haven't bothered to read this debate. It's the same old story throughout the ages and I gave up on it way back in '94, when EDM was undoubtedly at it's peak here in the americas with the Eurohouse invasion (well, in Canada, at least).

I just wanted to say that Krysta's friend in the middle on the picture is mighty cute.

And for a side note...i saw you mentioned the movie Party Monster.

I hope you know that Michael Alig was one of the BEST people ever to come to the NYC club scene...If you ask most people he created the best times NYC had. He was the original NYC clubkid. Without him who knows what direction NYC would of gone (1995-1999). He made a HUGE difference for the better.

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 Ummm, most djs don't dress like kandii ravers. And why is everyone focusing on just one part of the whole statement? It's growing rather tiresome rather quickly.

so its all about u not liking one group of people that dont like u... well u didnt have to give me that "umm" like im wasting ur time... i did adress ur whole y is edm dead here, and now im addressin the retard parts of your thread, so i havent just picked and chosen wat parts i want to respond to. im sorry but when i see someone who thinks they're elite compared to another group cuz of how they look... u cant possibly expect to see everyone respond with "yea i know i so totally agree with u!!"

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Originally posted by tiesto14 And for a side note...i saw you mentioned the movie Party Monster. I hope you know that Michael Alig was one of the BEST people ever to come to the NYC club scene...If you ask most people he created the best times NYC had. He was the original NYC clubkid. Without him who knows what direction NYC would of gone (1995-1999). He made a HUGE difference for the better.

yea seriousely, how can u diss Mr. alig, guys a party god

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Originally posted by Sykonee I just wanted to say that Krysta's friend in the middle on the picture is mighty cute.

LOL...i think Krysta is the hottest out of the 3...but lemme not toot her horn.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 And for a side note...i saw you mentioned the movie Party Monster. I hope you know that Michael Alig was one of the BEST people ever to come to the NYC club scene...If you ask most people he created the best times NYC had. He was the original NYC clubkid. Without him who knows what direction NYC would of gone (1995-1999). He made a HUGE difference for the better.

Which leads me to wonder why he was played by Seth Green...

Either way, I'll agree with you on that, I'm saying that American kandii ravers are idiots as a rule of thumb. I don't know how many times I've said that now in the span of this thread. My point is, why is it EDM just can't get big around here? What are your thoughts on the vast apathy towards EDM? Quit focusing on just one part of what I said, there's more to it than just that one statement.

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Originally posted by ESMdjm600 yea seriousely, how can u diss Mr. alig, guys a party god

for real he is.....he doesnt get the respect he deserves sometimes....a tad eccentric but a pioneer to the extreme.

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