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Posted by dj tek on May-10-2005 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
There's no such thing as UK trance. The nearest to that is prog house.

what i mean is trance music made by brits. ok ? perfecto stuff, dave ralph/tea freaks, john graham, nick warren, sasha...trancers they made in those days...

Posted by auranaut on May-10-2005 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
isnt goa prety fast?

He didn't play much of that in 99.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-10-2005 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
lol

As usual your argument is flawless and compelling.

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-10-2005 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
As usual your argument is flawless and compelling.

argument?

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-10-2005 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
He didn't play much of that in 99.

so

Posted by dj tek on May-10-2005 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
He didn't play much of that in 99.

yeah he'd play MWNN stuff but werent fast at all...

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-10-2005 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
argument?

That was another of saying: What are you loling about?

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-10-2005 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
That was another of saying: What are you loling about?

umm ok

Posted by auranaut on May-10-2005 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
yeah he'd play MWNN stuff but werent fast at all...

Yeah, he played Teleport once.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-10-2005 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
umm ok

Answer then?

Posted by placebo on May-10-2005 19:17:

In the end...who cares? If you don't like him, listen to something else. If you do like him, then listen to his music. I don't think we need a whole thread dedicated to arguing about it. It just floods this forum with useless crap.

Posted by auranaut on May-10-2005 19:27:

Rough list of anthem/epic tracks Oakey played in 99:

12:28 03. Tilt - "Children [Tilt's Courtyard Mix]"
41:34 16. Silent Harmony - "Save The Whales [Original Mix]"
52:23 18. Fridge - "Paradise [Original Nu-Gray Mix]"
57:00 19. Push - "Universal Nation [Dumonde Remix]"
38:36 17. Gouryella - "Gouryella"
17:00 03. Kamaya Painters - "Endless Wave [Albion Remix]"
24:00 04. Fridge - "Paradise [Push Remix]"
60:01 09. Binary Finary - "1999 [Gouryella Remix]"
61:56 10. Push - "Universal Nation [Ferry Corsten Remix]"
53:54 17. Transa - "Supernova"
107:02 18. Dumonde - "Tomorrow [DJ JamX & De Leon Remix]"

And that's out of hundreds of tracks.

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-10-2005 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
Rough list of anthem/epic tracks Oakey played in 99:

12:28 03. Tilt - "Children [Tilt's Courtyard Mix]"
41:34 16. Silent Harmony - "Save The Whales [Original Mix]"
52:23 18. Fridge - "Paradise [Original Nu-Gray Mix]"
57:00 19. Push - "Universal Nation [Dumonde Remix]"
38:36 17. Gouryella - "Gouryella"
17:00 03. Kamaya Painters - "Endless Wave [Albion Remix]"
24:00 04. Fridge - "Paradise [Push Remix]"
60:01 09. Binary Finary - "1999 [Gouryella Remix]"
61:56 10. Push - "Universal Nation [Ferry Corsten Remix]"
53:54 17. Transa - "Supernova"
107:02 18. Dumonde - "Tomorrow [DJ JamX & De Leon Remix]"

And that's out of hundreds of tracks.

aint it suprising how that looks exactly like what tiesto was playing as well?

Posted by dj tek on May-10-2005 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
Yeah, he played Teleport once.

he played VaVoom alot... i liked that one a little more..

Posted by auranaut on May-10-2005 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
aint it suprising how that looks exactly like what tiesto was playing as well?

Yeah, and those are the tracks I'm not too fond of. Lucky he only played those few.

Posted by dj tek on May-10-2005 19:39:

Posted by NiteMer on May-10-2005 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Comparing popular EDM djs mixing skills is pretty trivial. I mean big names like tiesto and oakenfold realise that all they are doing is playing music, so why even bother trying to mix, just get from one track to another.

I'm confident a dj like tiesto could pull off mixes like sasha and digweed if they wanted to. Especially if they played the same sort of records as them. It is not hard. Mixing just isnt as important to his fans as it is to sashas fans, because sashas fans are people who like to think they are listening to a more intelligent, or superior type of music than oakenfold or whatever else you have. In the end its all the fucking same. Tiestos fans would rather see him stand on a table like a dumbass, and then only step down to throw on another record. Where as sashas fans want to see him acting like he is doing something complex and difficult, you know, to make him look more intelligent and superior to the other big djs. Again, its all the same shit.

This is asinine. Tiesto couldn't pull it off. The style doesn't make much difference, and he doesn't do it on the prog tracks he mixes on ISOS4. Trance can be mixed longer too, but you have to know your tracks and key them, or be careful of level clashing on your mids, for example. And some of Sasha's fans are Tiesto's fans too. There aren't two different kinds of fans wanting something different. Maybe the more knowledgeable, estute fans want to hear good mixing, but that's not because of the style, or the dj, but because they demand more. Tiesto is an abrupt mixer, and I don't believe he could change his style and start drawing out mixes, fluidly. He might have to use his volume levels and eq s to do that, and that might hurt his brain a bit.

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-10-2005 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
This is asinine. Tiesto couldn't pull it off. The style doesn't make much difference, and he doesn't do it on the prog tracks he mixes on ISOS4. Trance can be mixed longer too, but you have to know your tracks and key them, or be careful of level clashing on your mids, for example. And some of Sasha's fans are Tiesto's fans too. There aren't two different kinds of fans wanting something different. Maybe the more knowledgeable, estute fans want to hear good mixing, but that's not because of the style, or the dj, but because they demand more. Tiesto is an abrupt mixer, and I don't believe he could change his style and start drawing out mixes, fluidly. He might have to use his volume levels and eq s to do that, and that might hurt his brain a bit.

lol, is it possible to slam a 2 minute mix

Posted by dj tek on May-10-2005 20:06:

i feel dumber for even posting in this thread. peace yall.

Posted by Desty Nova on May-10-2005 20:10:

quote:
Originally posted by zshev
bullshit, no one is that bad.

There are some, I've been in the dj booth with hip hip djs that would just skratch in between songs on tapes and Cds.

Posted by ideal4u10 on May-10-2005 20:41:

nyana

nyana's mixing wasn't great but wasn't crap. outdoor disc is a lot better than indoor. by the way, does any one have a copy of urban shakedown-monster traaaack!!!

Posted by NiteMer on May-10-2005 21:02:

Re: nyana

quote:
Originally posted by ideal4u10
nyana's mixing wasn't great but wasn't crap. outdoor disc is a lot better than indoor. by the way, does any one have a copy of urban shakedown-monster traaaack!!!

There are beatmatch errors on Nyana. They aren't wrecks, but it's pretty disappointing to hear those errors on a cd sold all around the world.

Posted by zshev on May-10-2005 21:11:

Posted by RJT on May-10-2005 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
i feel dumber for even posting in this thread. peace yall.

+1 and I'm out...

Posted by Dickie-T on May-10-2005 21:38:

Who is this Auronaut fellow, did he invent EDM or something? Does he have all wisdom? Does he know what is good and what is bad? Did he choose the pope? Is he god?

Or is he a frustrated n00b???

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