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Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
Just because a song is played doesn't make it good. Go listen to commercial radio and tell me that the newest backstreet boys single is good simply because of it's popularity. Tiesto is number one because those same backstreet boys fans voted for the best DJ.


I think it is a DILDO !!!

and it does make it a good song, you know why because it got alot of play. You know, you are not seeing the bigger picture. Maybe the song isn't "underground sounding" enough for you, but guess what, maybe Tiesto is smart enough to target the "majority" of dance music listeners and make songs that appeal to them....So, just because you and your friends don't think a song is good, doesn't make it a BAD song. Majority wins on everything...I never heard about the few winning over the many


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
I think it is a DILDO !!!

and it does make it a good song, you know why because it got alot of play. You know, you are not seeing the bigger picture. Maybe the song isn't "underground sounding" enough for you, but guess what, maybe Tiesto is smart enough to target the "majority" of dance music listeners and make songs that appeal to them....So, just because you and your friends don't think a song is good, doesn't make it a BAD song. Majority wins on everything...I never heard about the few winning over the many


Or maybe the song was shit in my opinion? Because I don't like the song it does make it a bad song. I hear the new DJ Sami is getting popular, he is now teh best disc j0ckey.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
No, we can't, because he really didn't make Traffic. See the tune called Sean Deason - Pyskofuk or whatever it's called. Tijs sampled most of it.


Dude, that was one song as an example...you know what i meant...come on bro


Posted by idoru on Jun-10-2005 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
I think it is a DILDO !!!

and it does make it a good song, you know why because it got alot of play. You know, you are not seeing the bigger picture. Maybe the song isn't "underground sounding" enough for you, but guess what, maybe Tiesto is smart enough to target the "majority" of dance music listeners and make songs that appeal to them....So, just because you and your friends don't think a song is good, doesn't make it a BAD song. Majority wins on everything...I never heard about the few winning over the many


So simply because it's popular it's good? And he's not targeting the "majority of dance music listeners," he's only targeting the small fraction of EDM fans that listen to Trance. There is so much more to EDM than Trance. And yes, it does make it a bad song; you can't tell people that it's good simply because they like it and the masses don't.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
Spell it out for me because I really don't seam to be getting the point of voting for the top Disc Jockey based on producing.


Because there is alot of people like me that take Production into consideration when it comes time to vote. See, the whole point of Djing is to get the songs to the people so they go and buy them or they buy a CD or that they will just like what you played and come back to see you next time ( i am sure they all Dj cause they enjoy it as well ) ..Well now-a-days everyone plays mostly stuff from their own labels and their own production...so when listening to their sets and CD's I take the production work into consideration because that is a big part of why they are Djing

(i.e. I am talking about the top 10 Dj's or so, who are also Producers with well known songs in circulation)


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
Because there is alot of people like me that take Production into consideration when it comes time to vote. See, the whole point of Djing is to get the songs to the people so they go and buy them or they buy a CD or that ehy will just like what you played and come back to see you next time ..Well now-a-days everyone plays mostly stuff from their own labels and their own production...so when listening to their sets and CD's I take the production work into consideration because that is a big part of why they are Djing

(i.e. I am talking about the top 10 Dj's or so, who are also Producers with well known songs in circulation)


That replaces an old guy falling off his bike as the funniest thing I've heard all day.


Posted by idoru on Jun-10-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
See, the whole point of Djing is to get the songs to the people so they go and buy them or they buy a CD or that ehy will just like what you played and come back to see you next time


Amongst those who wish to be popular, sure. The real point of DJ'ing is supposed to be to have fun, to make people dance and enjoy themselves.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
So simply because it's popular it's good? And he's not targeting the "majority of dance music listeners," he's only targeting the small fraction of EDM fans that listen to Trance. There is so much more to EDM than Trance. And yes, it does make it a bad song; you can't tell people that it's good simply because they like it and the masses don't.


If he is targeting a small fraction of EDM listeners, then why is he still voted number 1 again?? He must be doing something right and if everyone is knocking his Djing skills and he is still getting number one on the rankings, then this forces me to look into his production...

...now we are into the production.... What do we hear

"This song is tooo mainsteam"
"This song sux"
"It's not even progressive"
"This song is a rip off of another song"


Ok, so why is he still number 1?? It has to be his song slection and his Production skills if it is not his mixing.

But things change.. I think next year is going to be Armin's year. But I am talking about the last few years including the present moment.


p.s. Armins new Sensation White song has a few parts in it that sound similar to another very popular song also...it happens. So many songs sound a like these days... Even is Tiesto "borrowed" samples from another song, he atleast gave credit where it was needed

I am done being a prick, but I just think you have to give credit where credit is due. I don't understand how alot of people can't see this about Tiesto..


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Amongst those who wish to be popular, sure. The real point of DJ'ing is supposed to be to have fun, to make people dance and enjoy themselves.


you know what, I will give you that. I forgot to add that another big part of Djing is because they enjoy it. That is true !! but is also a buisness. And buisness and fun can go hand in gloove.


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 00:56:

Tiesto sucks to a hell of a lot of people, a lot hate him because he sucks and a lot hate him because it's cool too, end of story now quit making excuses, opinion is opinion.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
That replaces an old guy falling off his bike as the funniest thing I've heard all day.


Sure it might be funny to you, but Djing is a buisness also. What do you think all these radio shows are for...sure we like them, sure the Dj is having fun but they are trying to show you the new stuff that is out and what label it is on and what CD we need to look out for, etc..etc..etc...

they also of course play songs that do not need to be mentioned because we all know them old classics already... I am not saying there is not a level of pleasing the crowd when it comes to Djing but it is also a business that thrives on new stuff coming out all the time...things get old in a month around here

And during all this Progressive movemnet, Dj Tiesto produced 2 original albums and that was good enough for me


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 01:02:


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.



and how do the checked boxes not apply to other Dj's ??

You don't think Armin is fucking fighting his way to be number 1??

They are all trying to move up in rank.

bottom line, you sound jealous


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
and how do the checked boxes not apply to other Dj's ??

You don't think Armin is fucking fighting his way to be number 1??

They are all trying to move up in rank.

bottom line, you sound jealous


I'm such a horrible DJ that I should be making millions of dollars like Tiesto is, hit the nail on the head.


Posted by Googooly on Jun-10-2005 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
Tiesto sucks to a hell of a lot of people, a lot hate him because he sucks and a lot hate him because it's cool too, end of story now quit making excuses, opinion is opinion.


he sucks at mixing but he sure is good at keeping the crowd warm!


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
I'm such a horrible DJ that I should be making millions of dollars like Tiesto is, hit the nail on the head.


you are such a dumb fuck that I think you need to take the dildo out of your location and put it in your ear so you can hear me fucking better.



You try writting an original Trance song and post it here in the forums and lets compare and contrast. Just because not all of his sets are perfect does not make him a crappy dj. How about the tons of sets that are perfect? What about those Dj sets?

And maybe you think he doesn't deserve to be #1 ?? Is that it?? Well, why don't you look back and see what has made him #1

He is smarter than you think and he knows who is "target" audience is, and his sets and music reflects this.


Posted by ZuLi on Jun-10-2005 02:01:

it has come to my attention that clearly most people dont know the difference between beat-matching and mixing
two tracks which are at the exact same bpm could still sound awful mixed 2gether, even without "trainwrecking" (which could also occur at the same bpm)
im sorry if this has been said b4, but 4give me for not reading a 900 page thread, probably full of bull


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
you are such a dumb fuck that I think you need to take the dildo out of your location and put it in your ear so you can hear me fucking better.



You try writting an original Trance song and post it here in the forums and lets compare and contrast. Just because not all of his sets are perfect does not make him a crappy dj. How about the tons of sets that are perfect? What about those Dj sets?

And maybe you think he doesn't deserve to be #1 ?? Is that it?? Well, why don't you look back and see what has made him #1

He is smarter than you think and he knows who is "target" audience is, and his sets and music reflects this.



Weak argument number 1 - let's see you do better

Never said I could, by that logic the only way you can voice a negative opinion that is taken seriously is if you've done better.

Weak argument number 2 - you havn't heard all his sets

I've heard a lot of them and almost all of them sucked. Don't assume that because I don't like him it's because I havn't heard track X or listened to set X.

Smart and talented are two very different things. You're right about him being smart though considering he's nothing but an overrated DJ.


Posted by djdimensions on Jun-10-2005 03:07:

i didnt really wanna get into this one but now i am. I remember him in 2000 no one could touch but now i think he can mix pretty goood. Everyone has their share of trainwrecks but overall hes a good dj. I gotta give him that plus his live mix at energy 2000 was the fuken shit. Thats what i remeber about trance


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
Weak argument number 1 - let's see you do better

Never said I could, by that logic the only way you can voice a negative opinion that is taken seriously is if you've done better.

Weak argument number 2 - you havn't heard all his sets

I've heard a lot of them and almost all of them sucked. Don't assume that because I don't like him it's because I havn't heard track X or listened to set X.

Smart and talented are two very different things. You're right about him being smart though considering he's nothing but an overrated DJ.




You sound jealous. Either that or your on the bandwagon of people that hate Tiesto just because it is the "cool" thing to do. It takes opposition to make something different, but you still got to respect what the difference is opposeing off of, and bottom line, there are tons of live sets out there that Tiesto has mixed perfectly, but of course you are never going to hear about those sets because it is expected...people like you just take that shit for granted.

BTW, Are you a Transexual?


Posted by Sykonee on Jun-10-2005 17:20:

I think Tiesto and P. Diddy should team up together. The combined power of their marketing would rule the world!


Posted by Orpheus Is Dead on Jun-10-2005 21:20:

King

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
That looks like the worst live gig in history.


I agree......I don't even see any chicks in there. But i bet you still hear screaming when the next track comes on


Posted by JakeC on Jun-10-2005 21:40:

I laugh at you if you pay �15 to get into a club �3 for each drink and then all you do is analyse the dj and his performance.

if you do that i am not sorry as you are a complete ****.


Posted by ncgroov808 on Jun-10-2005 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
Because there is alot of people like me that take Production into consideration when it comes time to vote. See, the whole point of Djing is to get the songs to the people so they go and buy them or they buy a CD or that they will just like what you played and come back to see you next time ( i am sure they all Dj cause they enjoy it as well ) ..Well now-a-days everyone plays mostly stuff from their own labels and their own production...so when listening to their sets and CD's I take the production work into consideration because that is a big part of why they are Djing

(i.e. I am talking about the top 10 Dj's or so, who are also Producers with well known songs in circulation)


He's right. Tiesto produces original tracks for the sole purpose of playing them himself and for the crowd to enjoy his productions. Therefore, his productions are part of his dj'ing just as much as Sasha's, Fatboy Slim's, Armin's, or anyone else.


Posted by Blue. on Jun-12-2005 07:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
You sound jealous. Either that or your on the bandwagon of people that hate Tiesto just because it is the "cool" thing to do. It takes opposition to make something different, but you still got to respect what the difference is opposeing off of, and bottom line, there are tons of live sets out there that Tiesto has mixed perfectly, but of course you are never going to hear about those sets because it is expected...people like you just take that shit for granted.

BTW, Are you a Transexual?


People like me? You can group me into whatever category it is that helps you sleep at night and allows you to believe that those who don't like him are ignorant or bandwagoners. You're posts are getting more mature with each passing moment "BTW, Are you a Transexual?" I guess you're running out of steam.


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