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Posted by Jocker on Jun-22-2005 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
imagine an infinite universe constantly expanding at a rate of 15,000 kilometers per parsec per parsec. and then something measured in inches being compared to that. Every second, your dick is thousands of times smaller than its ever been before.


technically speaking, the size of his dick stays constant, but it gets further and further from the relative points like galaxies, stars and planets in universe. that means that his chance of sleeping with an extraterrestrial beauty is smaller and smaller.


Posted by Jocker on Jun-22-2005 21:21:

Re: Re: Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
try reading past the 1st post buddy...


i don't need to, cause that's the post you've stated the problem in.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2005 21:22:

well because the galaxies are still all expanding at hubble constant in all directions its still expanding redshift owns j00r dick;


and yes its all about relative space, but you wouldnt be the same "size" if all of a sudden every other human and building on earth pentupled in size. You would in fact be "smaller" and the reference point becomes the important factor.


Posted by Jocker on Jun-22-2005 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
ah but thats only true if we take into consideration that the universe is infinitely expanding.

another theory is that it's expanded, and now it's coming back together (or will at some point) I think it was called the rubber band theory

so, my dick is a thousand times LONGER than its ever been before

NOTE: this is specifically only about MY dick. Not yours or anyone elses. n00blAR!


b0p!


it's not gonna be coming back for another tens of billions of years, but yeah, thats the theory, that in another so many billions of years, there will be the big implosion and everything will come back to one superenergy and supermass point.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2005 21:28:

depends on if its 4d flat, 4d sphere (which on an infinite scale would appear to be flat), or 4d pringle/saddle. One keeps expanding, the others come back.

basically in the words of my professor "We actually have no idea and people in a few hundred years will most likely make fun of us"


Posted by Jocker on Jun-22-2005 21:33:

...and the "dark energy" and "dark mass" will turn out to be a bunch of little darth vaders flying in their fighters.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2005 21:36:

either that we are all stuck in a marble that aliens are playing with.


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-22-2005 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
basically in the words of my professor "We actually have no idea and people in a few hundred years will most likely make fun of us"


ok i just had a crazy thought...


is it possible to have a finite level of knowledge? for example, it takes time to learn information and levels of thinking and learning depend to a great extent on previous information especially when it comes to things like new discovery and new knowledge. so then my question is, given that people have a finite lifespan...could we ever reach a level on understanding to which you simply would not be able to gain more information because it would take an entire life time to learn everything up to the point where one could start to make new discoveries?...if that made sense at all


Posted by M@t on Jun-22-2005 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
ok i just had a crazy thought...


is it possible to have a finite level of knowledge? for example, it takes time to learn information and levels of thinking and learning depend to a great extent on previous information especially when it comes to things like new discovery and new knowledge. so then my question is, given that people have a finite lifespan...could we ever reach a level on understanding to which you simply would not be able to gain more information because it would take an entire life time to learn everything up to the point where one could start to make new discoveries?...if that made sense at all


I expect memory would be a limiting factor
You could gain a huge wealth of knowledge but unless you keep this knowledge at the forefront of your memory by perhaps imparting it, then its just gonna sink down and get lost, then be replaced by new knowledge. Until you reach a steady state of knowledge balanced by gaining new and forgetting that which is not accessed regularly.

Hehe, some shit like that anyway


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-22-2005 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by M@t
I expect memory would be a limiting factor
You could gain a huge wealth of knowledge but unless you keep this knowledge at the forefront of your memory by perhaps imparting it, then its just gonna sink down and get lost, then be replaced by new knowledge. Until you reach a steady state of knowledge balanced by gaining new and forgetting that which is not accessed regularly.

Hehe some shit like that anyway


well i don't mean as an individual...i mean as a civilization. lemme try to explain a little better.

ok so if you're learning math...you start out basic and move up to more advanced understandings of it. your ability to comprehend more difficult problems is routed in your understanding of earlier phases of math. so if it took you your whole life to learn math up to a certain level of difficulty, say you're working at a maximum capacity and under perfect circumstances, there could be levels of math beyond your understanding, but you would never be able to learn them.

so if we ever got to a similar point as a civilization, meaning that anyone born would need to learn so much before they could begin to move forward into those more difficult levels, then we as a civilization would never learn them....


i dunno, i'm just rambling most likely...


Posted by Jocker on Jun-22-2005 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
ok i just had a crazy thought...


is it possible to have a finite level of knowledge? for example, it takes time to learn information and levels of thinking and learning depend to a great extent on previous information especially when it comes to things like new discovery and new knowledge. so then my question is, given that people have a finite lifespan...could we ever reach a level on understanding to which you simply would not be able to gain more information because it would take an entire life time to learn everything up to the point where one could start to make new discoveries?...if that made sense at all


i would think, theoretically, yes, since the memory capacity is not indefinite... but, as with all the knowledge, people tend to summarize/aggregate general ideas, and then divide them into more specific stuff for professions. you would not be able to learn all the info today as it is - to know all the literature heroes, everything about astronomy, everything about philosophy. but you don't need to. you get the general body of knowledge, and then you learn the specific stuff related to the profession you choose. as more discoveries are made and more knowledge is available, you will have more and more branched-out professions. this process of "divide and rule" could go on indefinitely to accomodate the growing body of knowledge.

like, 40 years ago there were just computer programmers, 20 years ago there were C programmers, 10 years ago there were web-porgrammers, 5 years ago - web programmers dealing with databases, 3 years ago - web programmers dealing with databases in multi-tiered environment, now - web programmers dealing with grid computations in databases in multi-tiered environment, and so on... subjects, that were once thought of as general and 1 topic, constantly branch out into more specific subdivisions.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Jun-22-2005 21:51:

when I die Im hoping maggots & worms will eat my corpse. Im looking forward to that episode of my existance, though Im also looking forward to doing my morning poop (ive packed a big one today!!)


Posted by Jocker on Jun-22-2005 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
so if we ever got to a similar point as a civilization, meaning that anyone born would need to learn so much before they could begin to move forward into those more difficult levels, then we as a civilization would never learn them....


but we wouldn't need to. nowadays, the situation is the same: there are such great advances in mathematics, but in real life hardly anyone not in the math field knows anything beyond solving integrals - if that at all - while that part was started to be researched as long as 350 years ago. you get a basic general knowledge, and then you branch out as fast as you can to pursue the research in the field that interests you.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2005 22:23:

as far as the "group mind" theory goes...to an extent. Its a middle ground of explosive innovation every few hundred years or one brilliant man changing the world and everyone working on that for a while. We tend to get stuck on ideas and try to make them work until someone blows it out of the water then we work on that.

if you go to ibm.com/research youll find them working on a new gel/liquid memory idea modeled after the human brain. It technically has infinite capacity, like memory. Only problem are routines and routes to establish the links. Its why you randomly remember stuff sometimes. Its still there, the path is just over grown and weed choked Or beer beer choked.

Im not sure I believe in a social consciousness though, because well...lots of ig'nant folks out there hehe.

we tend to just agree to agree on somethings and agree to disagree on others, and, like I said before, there are usually people that come along and attach an indexical meaning to our knowledge showing us what to work for or what to dismiss.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jun-23-2005 01:37:

So who here likes peanut butter. I prefer smooth but once in awhile crunchy peanut butter is what the doctor orders.


Posted by JinX_33 on Jun-23-2005 02:17:

LOLOL, i was totally into everything, but i lost it when i read that


Posted by Arbiter on Jun-23-2005 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
great, this is going to be a fun weekend! (i'm driving up to tampa with her to visit this uncle and his family).


Well gee, I could have a talk with her if you want...


Posted by D-res on Jun-23-2005 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Fuck that...all I believe in is drugs, music and sex.



omg.... clovis... you are my hero

plus fucking one

hahaha


Posted by harriz on Jun-23-2005 06:17:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clovis86
Fuck that...all I believe in is drugs, music and sex. [/QUOTE

very original believes!!!

yyyeaaaaah!!!!!
sex drugs n rooock n rrrooooolllll!!! woooo hooooo!!!!!

welcome to the golden 60s and 70

and those believers became the yippies of the 80s n 90s
with the extremes we see today....
People so soulless ,white and concervative they make
george bush sound fowardthinking.

so find something else to believe in....

like MONEY MONEY AND MORE MONEY!!!!!


Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-23-2005 12:48:

My fav argument with the whole Bible thing is:

Take a book written in an ancient language.
Translate it 5 or so more times, using another few ancient languages.

Tell me this doesnt leave any creative licence to whoever was doing the translations at each step...

Best example I can give:

Take a paragraph in english.
Translate it to german.
Then to spanish.
Then to french.
Then to italian.
Then back to english.

How much like the original paragraph does the final one look?

Not friggin much


Morals ftw!


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jun-23-2005 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
My fav argument with the whole Bible thing is:

Take a book written in an ancient language.
Translate it 5 or so more times, using another few ancient languages.

Tell me this doesnt leave any creative licence to whoever was doing the translations at each step...

Best example I can give:

Take a paragraph in english.
Translate it to german.
Then to spanish.
Then to french.
Then to italian.
Then back to english.

How much like the original paragraph does the final one look?

Not friggin much


Morals ftw!


For the most part it was Arameic to Hebrew to Anchient Greek, to Latin then to the various languages you presently find it in. What is great, however, is to see the differences between English Roman Catholic bibles and the King James bible.... There are so many differences between them that parts don't even seem like the same book and the only reason for it is that one was translated from latin hundreds of years ago whilst the other was translated only 40 years ago.


Posted by Renegade on Jun-23-2005 15:22:

um, why are ppl are defending the athiest who wants to send his children to hell???

i think some of you don't understand what an athiest is. in case you werent aware athiests are ppl that don't think god is real,but heres a question for all the athiests out there who thinks its cool to hate god:

HOW CAN YOU NOT BELIEVE IN A GOD IF HE DOESN'T EXIST????

thank about it. if you don't beleive in god, then there MUST be a god there for you to not beleive in. how can you not beleive in god if he doesn't exist???

so you can see why athiests are wrong. ask this question and i BET they can't give you a straight answer because they know deep down they are WRONG. here are some more facts about so called athiests:

- atheists wroship a man call charles darwin who was the inventor of evolution (i think EVILution would have been a more truthfull name tho lol ). what athiests DONT know is that charles darwin admited he was a christian when he was dieing and said everything he had invented was actually a lie i wonder if athiests would still worship him if they knew this??? LOL
- evolution is a theory that says animlas have mutated from other animals but if this is true than havent we EVER seen an animal mutate into a diferent animal??? haver you a seen a fish mutate into a donkey or a wtaermelon mutate into a dinosaur??? can you beleive this is what athiests actually think happens!!!???
- athiests think ppl came from monkeys but have you ever seen a monkey give birht to a person? lol no i don't think so. also athiests beleive that everything mutated from dinasaurs but this can't be true because arkolagists (sp?) have found footprints of ppl and dinasaurs walking next to each other do you wanna know whats cool tho? this is just what it says iN THE BIBLE!!!
- athiests think they can explain everything with science but there are lots of things there science cant explain. can science explain why ppl love each other or a sunrise or why the sky is blue??/ athiests probably dont beleive in love or beleive the sky is green or something because there science cant explain them lol

so as you can see athiests beleive in lots of wierd things they shouldnt be telling to there children. slylee i think you should talk to ur uncle about this. maybe try using the agruements i've used here (trust me they ALWAYS woprk to proove that god exists. then tell him that even tho he hates jesus now JESUS STILL LOVES him!!! can you imagine how shoecked he will be when he hears this??? lol

good luck i will pray for you!!!


Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-23-2005 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
um, why are ppl are defending the athiest who wants to send his children to hell???

i think some of you don't understand what an athiest is. in case you werent aware athiests are ppl that don't think god is real,but heres a question for all the athiests out there who thinks its cool to hate god:

HOW CAN YOU NOT BELIEVE IN A GOD IF HE DOESN'T EXIST????

thank about it. if you don't beleive in god, then there MUST be a god there for you to not beleive in. how can you not beleive in god if he doesn't exist???

so you can see why athiests are wrong. ask this question and i BET they can't give you a straight answer because they know deep down they are WRONG. here are some more facts about so called athiests:

- atheists wroship a man call charles darwin who was the inventor of evolution (i think EVILution would have been a more truthfull name tho lol ). what athiests DONT know is that charles darwin admited he was a christian when he was dieing and said everything he had invented was actually a lie i wonder if athiests would still worship him if they knew this??? LOL
- evolution is a theory that says animlas have mutated from other animals but if this is true than havent we EVER seen an animal mutate into a diferent animal??? haver you a seen a fish mutate into a donkey or a wtaermelon mutate into a dinosaur??? can you beleive this is what athiests actually think happens!!!???
- athiests think ppl came from monkeys but have you ever seen a monkey give birht to a person? lol no i don't think so. also athiests beleive that everything mutated from dinasaurs but this can't be true because arkolagists (sp?) have found footprints of ppl and dinasaurs walking next to each other do you wanna know whats cool tho? this is just what it says iN THE BIBLE!!!
- athiests think they can explain everything with science but there are lots of things there science cant explain. can science explain why ppl love each other or a sunrise or why the sky is blue??/ athiests probably dont beleive in love or beleive the sky is green or something because there science cant explain them lol

so as you can see athiests beleive in lots of wierd things they shouldnt be telling to there children. slylee i think you should talk to ur uncle about this. maybe try using the agruements i've used here (trust me they ALWAYS woprk to proove that god exists. then tell him that even tho he hates jesus now JESUS STILL LOVES him!!! can you imagine how shoecked he will be when he hears this??? lol

good luck i will pray for you!!!


This is a pisstake right?

I don't believe in Santa Claus, so that makes him real?


Posted by Slylee on Jun-23-2005 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Well gee, I could have a talk with her if you want...



well, it's not IN tampa....i just say tampa cuz it's a major city that ppl recognize...he lives out by indian rocks beach/madeira beach...right by the water.

so, it's south of tampa (i think)...


Posted by Renegade on Jun-23-2005 16:00:

"This is a pisstake right? "

sorry i dont understand is this an american saying???

"I don't believe in Santa Claus, so that makes him real?"

what does santa cluas have to do with it....

ok heres another one if you think your so clever. if god isn't real than why do so many ppl beleive in him??? also noone has ever proved that god DOESNT exist not even charles darwin.maybe you should think about this before you post again


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