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Posted by xtractorfan on Jul-10-2005 09:25:

Enjoy

Posted by nwopper on Jul-10-2005 13:08:

To add something irrelevant to the entire discussion.
I still like epic trance, and I like Gouryella (damn, I have 3 cdm's!) and I love hardtrance!
I dislike minimalclickhousetechnobreaks that's so obscure and underground that no-one can get into it, and when you're into it....well, that doesn't make you a cooler or more 'EDM enlightened' person than the rest of the TA's...
Although, being on TA made me appriciate people like Holden, Sasha and Nathan Fake, which I normally would stuff away in a little corner with the tag 'boring stuff I don't like' above it. And I like cheesy stuff too, I have the cd's of Ian van Dahl, Lasgo, Alice Deejay, Milk Inc, and they're lying together with Fundacion and Balance 005 and 006 in the same cd-case.

Posted by basd on Jul-10-2005 14:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Endre

I don't see how after all my years here people still argue about this. I personally don't eat cheese, however, i tend to make cheese, but i don't give a shit. It pays better then weird underground crap we all love.

Boo! Sellout! Capitalist piece of ****!

Personally, I tend to slap a cheese label on tracks with quite simple melodies and such, which are clearly made for the dancefloor and are highly effective in that aspect for most people. I know I shouldn't, because it's a valuable type of talent when you can produce tracks like that, but still, most of the times I just tend to dislike them (from the start, not just after they've been beaten to death).

Examples are Traffic, Murder was the bass, Rocker, and so on. I know most people here will disagree on me labeling them as cheese, but still, I do. Doesn't mean they're not effective as hell, as I've stated earlier.

Posted by Trance Seed on Jul-10-2005 21:28:

Scooter - Im Raving Now (Taucher remix)

Posted by Nostalgic on Jul-11-2005 00:02:

gate crasher classics volume 1

Disc: 1

1. Y-Traxx Mystery Land - Original Mix
2. Ti�sto - Suburban Train
3. Binary Finary - 1998 (Matt Darey Mix)
4. Liquid Child - Diving Faces
5. Nalin & Kane -Beachball
6. Cygnus X - The Orange Theme (Moonman�s Orange Juice Mix)
7. Art of Trance - Madagascar (Ferry Corsten Remix)
8. Push - Universal Nation (Ferry Corsten 99 Remix)
9. Ayla - Ayla (DJ Taucher Mix)
10. Tilt - Invisible (Lost Tribe Vocal Mix)
11. Three `n One - Presents Serial Diva (Pearl River)
12. Lustral Everytime - Nalin & Kane (Remix)
13. Freefall - Skydive (I Feel Wonderful)
14. Quake Feat. Marcia Rae - The Day Will Come (Quake Vocal Mix)
15. Solar Stone - Seven Cities (Stone�s Atlantis Mix)
16. Balearic Bill - Destination Sunshine (DJ Ti�sto Dub)
17. Katcha - Touched by God (Alfie Cohn Mix)

Disc: 2

1. William Orbit - Barbers Adagio For Strings (Ferry Corsten Remix)
2. System F - Out Of The Blue (Original 12� Version)
3. Planet Perfecto - Bullet In The Gun (Saturday Remix)
4. Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (PvD E-werk Club Mix)
5. Armin - Communication
6. Humate - Love Stimulation (Paul Van Dyk's Love-Club-Mix)
7. BBE - 7 Days And 1 Week
8. Three Drives - Greece 2000
9. Delerium Feat. Sarah McLachlan - Silence (Sanctuary Mix)
10. Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday
11. Chicane - Offshore
12. Matt Darey Feat. Marcella Woods - Liberation (Fly Like an Angel) (Matt Darey 99 Mix)
13. The Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia (PvD Club Remix)
14. Lost Witness - Happiness Happening (Lange Remix)
15. Atlantis Vs Avatar Feat. Miriam Stockley - Fiji
16. Digger - Church of Ra
17. Space Manoeuvres - Stage One (Tilts Apollo 11 Mix)

Disc: 3

1. Fatboy Slim - Sunset (Bird Of Prey)
2. Mansun - Wide Open Space (Perfecto Mix)
3. Olive - You�re Not Alone
4. David Morales Presents The Face - Needin� U (Original Mistake)
5. Basement Jaxx - Bingo Bango
6. A.T.F.C Presents Onephatdeeva - In And Out Of My Life (Original Vocal Mix)
7. De'Lacy - Hideaway (Deep Dish Mix)
8. Rui Da Silva Feat. Cassandra - Touch Me
9. Iio - Rapture
10. Cevin Fisher�s Big Freak - The Freaks Come Out (Sharp Freaks At Trade Mix)
11. Ruff Driverz Feat. Arrola - Dreaming
12. Hands Burn - Good Shot
13. Billy Hendrix - Body Shine
14. Bacon Popper - Free (Smoked Mix)
15. Jam & Spoon - Stella
16. Way Out West - The Gift

judging from the interpretations of cheese as anything with vocals or uplifting sounding, all these "classics" are thereby cheese

Posted by DJ-RED on Jul-11-2005 00:20:

Sasha - Xpander
Bedrock - Heaven Sent

Posted by Googooly on Jul-11-2005 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED
Sasha - Xpander

you must be KIDDING!!??

Posted by DJ-RED on Jul-11-2005 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED
Sasha - Xpander
Bedrock - Heaven Sent

Sorry forgot to mention anyting by Paul Van Dyk is roquefort cheese.

Posted by JakeC on Jul-11-2005 00:28:

Xpander aint cheese but it is boring.

Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-11-2005 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Xpander aint cheese but it is boring.

its just a matter of opinion, i think its a quality piece of work....its meaty yet quite sparce, and it just reels me in everytime i hear it

Posted by DJ-RED on Jul-11-2005 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED
Sorry forgot to mention anyting by Paul Van Dyk is roquefort cheese.

Just kidding.

But if some mean that:
Lost Tribe - Gameaster
Paul Van Dyk - Words (PvD's For Love Mix)
Hands Burn - Good Shot
Binary Finary - 1999
is cheese, then the whole genre trance/prog is cheese....

Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-11-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED
Just kidding.

But if some mean that:
Lost Tribe - Gameaster
Paul Van Dyk - Words (PvD's For Love Mix)
Hands Burn - Good Shot
Binary Finary - 1999
is cheese, then the whole genre trance/prog is cheese....

so what are you saying some of my top 5 trance tunes, are cheese then

Posted by Googooly on Jul-11-2005 00:53:

Posted by JakeC on Jul-11-2005 00:59:

PvD - For An Angel.

Posted by DJ-RED on Jul-11-2005 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Googooly
I bet you don't even know what cheese mean...

Cheese is: Scooter, Pulsedriver, Special D, Groovecoverage, Lasgo++++ and everything from the AATW label ffs!!!

Posted by DJ-RED on Jul-11-2005 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by shades_of_gray
so what are you saying some of my top 5 trance tunes, are cheese then

I said that if some moron think these classic trance tunes are cheese... All trance ever produced have to be cheese, cuz those tunes is what trance is all about... Ill repeat NOT CHEESE, got it now?

Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-11-2005 01:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED
I said that if some moron think these classic trance tunes are cheese... All trance ever produced have to be cheese, cuz those tunes is what trance is all about... Ill repeat NOT CHEESE, got it now?

good man, i wasnt sure

Posted by aloep on Jul-11-2005 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED
Cheese is: Scooter, Pulsedriver, Special D, Groovecoverage, Lasgo++++ and everything from the AATW label ffs!!!

What's the meaning of the pluses after the word "Lasgo"?

Posted by gizzymcg on Jul-11-2005 01:41:

Take Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes
Original sweeping strings 12" when it first came out was the hottest thing in trance for a good while. When it got big enuf and Gab n Dres saw there was money 2 b made they decided 2 put it on general release. The corresponding "radio edit" with unecessary vocals then BECAME cheese. But it was never a cheesy tune before

Lots of tunes have had this happen 2 them. Darude - Sandstorm for instance which i never liked but it was a crackin club track.

Point is tunes that are "happy" tend 2 get labelled cheese for whatever reason. Personally i think its just bitterness from guys who like stuf that isnt commercially accessable. Trance is there 2 b enjoyed by every1. At festivals the trance tent is usually the biggest and most packed out.

So wot if its not "cool" but cheesy it aint. If a tune gets overplayed SO WHAT? The classics get overplayed but who complains when ure in the middle of a festival and bang Ferry plays Out of The Blue? NOBODY cuz were all too busy luvin it so much 2 care wot people that bash tunes like it think.

Posted by raydn on Jul-11-2005 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Xpander aint cheese but it is boring.

Come back here and say that in a year or so, im guessing you are a trance noob who can't appriciate its complexity, best stick with lasgo and sammy

Posted by Protege on Jul-11-2005 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Googooly
hahahahah tiesto is cheesy??!! hahahahah I bet you wont say that if you listen to him live! yes he migh have some cheesy tunes but who CARES!!!! hes not the BEST DJ in the world but he surly is in top 10!

That may be true but you should go see someone like Sander or Zabiela live. Doesn't even compare to Tiesto.

Posted by isoterra on Jul-11-2005 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by raydn
Come back here and say that in a year or so, im guessing you are a trance noob who can't appriciate its complexity, best stick with lasgo and sammy

lol

Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Jul-11-2005 06:03:

people tend to confuse between commercial stuff, and cheese. Just cuz a track is commercial doesn't mean at all that its cheese. Cheese is that Vengaboys & euro-dance shit!

Posted by Aiwendil on Jul-11-2005 06:14:

Delerium - Silence (DJ Tiesto's ISOS Remix)
DJ Tiesto - Suburban Train
Rank 1 - Airwave
Gouryella - Gouryella
Veracocha - Carte Blanche
Armin - Communication
Agnelli & Nelson - El Nino (Matt Darey Remix)
Transa - Enervate

I'm not joking.

Posted by D-res on Jul-11-2005 06:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Vodka
Vengaboys

with the exception of the track "paradise..." yes

paradise was the only track on the album that they put effort into really. its pretty much their only serious track and it's an amazing tune.

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