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Posted by DJ Cinos on Oct-03-2005 19:21:

This topic is so very funny... a lot of signature material here.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Oct-03-2005 19:23:

Not so sure that none of us would be here, alot of us found our way to these kinds of websites through things like the hyperreall archives, background music on the TV and movies and stuff. Those kinda attractors very well could have remained depite how the music sounded. Then there was stuff like mp3.com and napster that opened up huge amounts of people to varieties of music that they never tried before, that would have probably still happened despite any alternate directions trance could have taken.

There are also a fair amount of kids here who learned of trance from their older friends and family, and alot of the ppl who listened to that stuff way back in the day are still turning on new people to their music.

I think you underestimate us when you say that none of us would be here had it not been for robert miles. Alot of people I think would have gotten here anyway, but there really is no way to know. Alot of those really repetitive songs appeal to the kind of people that post around here.


Posted by n0bben on Oct-03-2005 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
This topic is so very funny... a lot of signature material here.


the sentence with angels fucking unicorns was the best so far


Posted by DJ Cinos on Oct-03-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
the sentence with angels fucking unicorns was the best so far


My favorite is "Can you see that big lights of the train of argument coming towards you?"


Posted by RickyM on Oct-03-2005 19:32:

If you ever check out the amateur producers forum - you'll see a lot of comments like 'gets a bit too repetitive' and 'plays the same over and over again'...which is strange as it is usually trance songs posted ...and repetitiveness is or is meant to be one of the main characteristics of trance.....


Posted by RebeL9 on Oct-03-2005 19:36:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
If you ever check out the amateur producers forum - you'll see a lot of comments like 'gets a bit too repetitive' and 'plays the same over and over again'...which is strange as it is usually trance songs posted ...and repetitiveness is or is meant to be one of the main characteristics of trance.....


its because the new era of producers expect the entire tune to be a massive anthem break with dazzling synth melodies. god forbid the use of repetitive buildups


Posted by montana on Oct-03-2005 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Show me, in these three tracks, where the big 1+ minute breakdown is, the crazy-ass snare roll, and the crescending anthem. Also, the female vocal singing about destiny and heaven and angels fucking unicorns and lost love.


stella: vocals - Love me....hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me...love me...hold me


Posted by RebeL9 on Oct-03-2005 19:41:

why do you guys mention Stella which after all is a cheesy balearic track. for real hypnotic stuff head for Eye Q-stuff. Tunes like Odysee of Noises - Firedance and Earthnation goodies


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-03-2005 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
why do you guys mention Stella which after all is a cheesy balearic track. for real hypnotic stuff head for Eye Q-stuff. Tunes like Odysee of Noises - Firedance and Earthnation goodies


Er... the very point is that it isn't really hypnotic at all but still a fooking choon.


Posted by RebeL9 on Oct-03-2005 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Er... the very point is that it isn't really hypnotic at all but still a fooking choon.


oh ok I never liked Stella that much anyway. I just liked the 99-remake by J&S-themself .


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-03-2005 20:00:

Oh, oh! I think I can hear the counterargument already: "Stella isn't pretending to be something it's not".

I admit can understand what Ish means by that, but it is perhaps the fuzziest and most subjective part of his argument against epic trance.

People could also use a healthy dose or reminder that although epic trance constitutes the highest profile in the genre, it's but a fraction of the subgenres that exist.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-03-2005 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Oh, oh! I think I can hear the counterargument already: "Stella isn't pretending to be something it's not".

I admit can understand what Ish means by that, but it is perhaps the fuzziest and most subjective part of his argument against epic trance.

People could also use a healthy dose or reminder that although epic trance constitutes the highest profile in the genre, it's but a fraction of the subgenres that exist.


Prezactly.


Posted by kr00t0n on Oct-03-2005 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
If trance had not evolved from what it was, none of you would be here, and hardly anyone would be scarcely aware of its existence, so its a moot point. It would be doing something outside of your sphere of interest.




If you believe that you would know the outcome of something like that happening, then you are even a bigger joke than your guide.

So if trance stayed how it was, it would stay forever underground?

Give me a break.

At the end of the day, people like what they like, and guess what... I can almost certainly guarantee that I enjoy what I enjoy more than you do what you enjoy.


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-03-2005 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I can almost certainly guarantee that I enjoy what I enjoy more than you do what you enjoy.


holy shit what a weird sentence in the context of grammatical conundrums much less a highly subjective statement.


Posted by kr00t0n on Oct-03-2005 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
holy shit what a weird sentence in the context of grammatical conundrums much less a highly subjective statement.


I think the necessity for grammatical correctness is overrated.


Posted by rob_sardellitti on Oct-03-2005 22:03:

i think buildups are great..but not when theres a freakin build up in every track u play..some tracks should be steady beat, others should be euphoric, and others should have the builds ups to wake ppl up

i like build ups...except for that randy katana bullshit....fuck katana


Posted by isoterra on Oct-03-2005 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
lol whereas yours look that way all the time regardless of who joins a discussion lol


ahh but the difference is, i'm not pretending to be something i'm not!

i keed i keed.. just paraphrasing the thread for a moment

but was more referring to the fact that your arguments in threads like this seem to be exact carbon copies of ishkur's most of the time, and whenever he's around to deliver his views, you seem to lose footing pretty rapidly


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-03-2005 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I think the necessity for grammatical correctness is overrated.


still

English is meant to be read, not cautiously figured out.


Posted by dartrance on Oct-03-2005 22:29:

aiwendil is just another turd like ishkur.

They seem to come in packages. The only difference is ishkur is a bit bigger than his follower.


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-03-2005 22:38:

I think this board would be boring as all hell if there weren't the Aiwendils/Radagasts and Ishkurs here. I usually laugh at 95% of what they say. And you can't deny that they're generally on point whether you disagree or not.

Without elite-ists that actually know their shit all this board would be is "omg j00 hear teh new ch00n Schulz spun? releasereleasereleasecamgasmchasmspasmsssss"

Learn to laugh a little people


Posted by Zombie0915 on Oct-03-2005 23:11:

I agree, they definately make the workday slightly more entertaining, however obnoxious they may be.


Posted by Aiwendil on Oct-03-2005 23:14:

Yeah that's it, i'm a "follower" of Ishkur because I don't like your potty-training trance. That's some impeccable logic there.

Unbeknownst to you, there are many more people who have the same views as us, they're just too smart/wise/mature/cool to hang around places like this. And they've never heard of Ishkur. Here comes that word again. People don't know what elitist means. Saying something sucks doesn't make one an elitist.


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-03-2005 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
Here comes that word again. People don't know what elitist means. Saying something sucks doesn't make one an elitist.


I meant it as a compliment. You know a loooot more than I do about seemingly all forms and facets of EDM. You, System-J, and Ishkur are the main three that generally make me feel this big when I compare my general knowledge of EDM to yours.

I'll stop my grovelling now though. I just feel someone needed to mention that you're actually worth a damn and a reliable member to the board even if your opinion differs from the mold (at least this board's mold).


Posted by isoterra on Oct-04-2005 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
Yeah that's it, i'm a "follower" of Ishkur because I don't like your potty-training trance. That's some impeccable logic there.


i was thinking more because of the music you listened to before you started using his site. it's a shame the 'search for all posts by this user' function isn't available anymore because the early results for 'Radagast' are rather amusing


Posted by Sykonee on Oct-04-2005 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
So if trance stayed how it was, it would stay forever underground?

Give me a break.

Hi, my name is Goa. Perhaps you've heard of me?


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