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Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-19-2006 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Everybody is there to dance? At the zone? Is that what you just said?


haha, everyone IS there to dance; or let the drugs wear off/kick in. People have this misconception that the crowd at the Zone is somehow true to the music cause everyone is going off. Yea...obviously... they're all FUCKED out of their minds. That said, the vibe is the best in the city there, and so is the music.


Posted by tha_broad on Apr-19-2006 20:34:

Ya, I hear that. I brought it up because there are people who have the same problem with alcohol that others have with drugs. They cant go out without going out and getting competely hammered. I know I've done it on more than one occasion.

edit: lkd, I put that in there on purpose, one of those bad joke things spitty was talkin about


Posted by cyper on Apr-19-2006 20:34:

If you are against drugs, then shouldnt you also be against alcohol, smoking & obesity?

Now, drugs might be more dangerous.. but the 3 mentioned kill more people on average then drug related deaths could ever match.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-19-2006 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
haha, everyone IS there to dance; or let the drugs wear off/kick in. People have this misconception that the crowd at the Zone is somehow true to the music cause everyone is going off. Yea...obviously... they're all FUCKED out of their minds. That said, the vibe is the best in the city there, and so is the music.


Aren't you contradiciting yourself in your post? If everyone there is fucked out of their mind, their dancing is a direct result of that.

P.S. I never said anything about the vibe or music at the zone.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-19-2006 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Aren't you contradiciting yourself in your post? If everyone there is fucked out of their mind, their dancing is a direct result of that.

P.S. I never said anything about the vibe or music at the zone.


how is that a contradiction? everyone is going off because of the drugs...


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-19-2006 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by cyper
If you are against drugs, then shouldnt you also be against alcohol, smoking & obesity?

Now, drugs might be more dangerous.. but the 3 mentioned kill more people on average then drug related deaths could ever match.


Especially when you consider how taboo it is to menton to someone that they're jeopardizing their health with their weight.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-19-2006 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by cyper
If you are against drugs, then shouldnt you also be against alcohol, smoking & obesity?

Now, drugs might be more dangerous.. but the 3 mentioned kill more people on average then drug related deaths could ever match.


nobody here is against drugs


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-19-2006 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
how is that a contradiction? everyone is going off because of the drugs...


so then people aren't really there to dance. They're there to enjoy the high. i.e. do drugs.

(i know not everyone because there is that handful of people who go sober)


Posted by LKD on Apr-19-2006 20:40:

ok enough about the off topic discussions. lets just stick to the topic at hand which really didnt continue since all points were covered in the first post itself


Posted by obe on Apr-19-2006 20:48:

I just mean "there to dance" as opposed to "pick up". No doubt most people are high, but it's a good, friendly crowd that just dances its collective ass off. No long lines of people constantly walking in front of you and no scumbags trying to grab my girlfriend's ass.
obe


Posted by MissM on Apr-19-2006 20:58:

I don't think the point of this thread was to discuss The Comfort Zone - as good or bad as we may think it is.

The original post was a great one - we should all be proud of a fellow TA who had the balls to say what all of us, at one time or another have thought.

M.


Posted by obe on Apr-19-2006 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by MissM
I don't think the point of this thread was to discuss The Comfort Zone - as good or bad as we may think it is.

The original post was a great one - we should all be proud of a fellow TA who had the balls to say what all of us, at one time or another have thought.

M.


Agreed. However, if you'll read my first post on the subject, you'll see that I think it's a great way to curtail your drug use which is very much the point of this thread.
obe


Posted by yankeeBaby on Apr-19-2006 21:10:

Cale: great freakin post....People need to get off that shit asap!!


Posted by MissM on Apr-19-2006 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by obe
Agreed. However, if you'll read my first post on the subject, you'll see that I think it's a great way to curtail your drug use which is very much the point of this thread.
obe


Point taken.
M.


Posted by obe on Apr-19-2006 21:12:


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-19-2006 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by tha_broad
I wonder if anybody reading this thread is taking their alcohol consumption into consideration as well. It's just as much a drug, no?


I think this should be taken very seriously as well. Just b/c alcohol is legal does not mean it can't do harmful things to you.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-19-2006 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Nikitha
Oh i'm not making a jab at the Comfort Zone... i've heard the stories of the amazing music played here... but thats what the whole point.. going for the amazing music.. not as another place to do drugs..


Nikki you know I love my CoZo trips...and I go for the right reason. 95% of the time I go to CoZo sober, or atleast sober up there. Personally I would rather NOT be on drugs, alcohol or anything while I'm there. It's already sketchy as it is, why should I feel the need to make it even sketchier. I like to go knowing exactly what's going on. The music is what draws me to CoZo. I love it, and I love dancing to it and I love the close proximety to the DJ.


And as for going to the Guv or other places sober. I'm not gonna lie and say that I never take E, but I have gone to plenty of parties sober in the past, and I will do it again. The main issue for me is like Spitty said, hunger and also sleep. Sometimes I don't have time to take a nap before hand, or I didn't get much the sleep the night before. I try to go sober but by 5am-ish I'm just pooped. The music is awesome and I don't want to leave, but I just can't dance anymore.

Edit - and when it comes to drinking...I never like going to all-night parties and drinking. B/c it just ends up making me tired half way through the night, or I get sick, or I dunno...I just don't like the feeling. I don't enjoy drinking that much as it is, so I wouldn't want to do it at the Guv or places like it.


Posted by kabelicious on Apr-19-2006 21:36:

Drugs can be good.

Pot enhances taste, textures, smell, hearing, vision, etc. One of the most awesome things in the world to do, I think, is to lay back and close your eyes and listen to masterpieces like the Doors or Led Zeppelin or Bjork and just LISTEN to the music.

I would say that E, shrooms, acid (in some cases), and alcohol can all be used for forces of good. They are mind expanders but I will say that coke, K, and G can bring out bad sides in people a lot. I have yet to see a pissy stoner or an angry shroomer. Those are drugs to be used in great moderation or not at all.

I just want people to stay alive - is that so damn wrong?


Posted by smuncky on Apr-19-2006 21:38:

its actually pretty weird how me, spainard and tordan had a discussion about this sorta thing before decadence.

i personally dont need anything to enhance my club experience since the music already give you a high. theres nothing better than closing your eyes and just letting the melody sink into you.

btw, great post nat


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-19-2006 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Cale: great freakin post....People need to get off that shit asap!!


Thank you, and yes they do.


Posted by Cosmopolitan82 on Apr-19-2006 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Don't get me wrong, I can party sober (I don't often make a late night out of it anymore as I can't deal with screwing my sleep schedule that much) - but sober or not, the crowd at the guv drives me insane. Music and drugs aside, I can't stand being around the people who frequent the guvernment. they are rude, pushy, disgusting, inconsiderate, and yes I am generalizing.

Jeff, I don't think it's unfair that people would like a headliner to come on before 4am. For people who lead 9-5 jobs, and don't work a retail or a bar/restaurant job and have to keep day hours M-F, staying up til 4am on a Friday night for the headliner to come on is near impossible without drugs since you've already been up since 6am Friday morning.



My thoughts exactly!! Staying awake from 6am thursday-6am friday for Decadence was brutal. I'm always crossing my fingers waiting for set-times to be announced, as it usually decides whether I'll be able to go out or not.

I really liked someone's idea of having the Docks open during the day for these events. It'd be a nice change!


Posted by Superstring on Apr-19-2006 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
Interesting comment Superstring...


I thought so


quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
Dude it's called a cat-nap.


Cat-nap eh?

Well, I have tried this before: sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Most of the people I know work full time - and it is quite hard to break a pattern of waking up at 6:30AM (or 5:30 in my case) for a single night of clubbing. I find it impossible to go to bed at 6:30PM.

What I'm saying is that a headliner coming on at 5 (and playing until 9) is something extraordinary, and should be perceived as such. When Guetta came to T. for the first time (Lot 332 I think?) he played at 2-ish.. That was awesome...

Now, financially, I'm also sure that this makes more sense. Book 1/2 less DJ's. Make them play until 5AM. Most of the money is probably made by the club prior to 2:30 (when the license ends)... The only things bought/sold after that are red-bulls and waters. I'm sure it's not worth it to keep the club open b/c of red-bull and water, while you're paying 1-2 extra DJ's another 20-30 K (case this weekend, probably Gabriel's and MO's fees).

Anyhow... Drugs = baaaaad. Earlier headliner times = goooood.


Posted by girllovingtvibe on Apr-19-2006 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
If we want to have a good summer, this post has to be read and understood by everyone.

This is not preaching, there is no secret intentions, there is no reading between the lines, these are facts.

If you need any help, now is the time.


great post NAT


Posted by The Highroller on Apr-19-2006 22:21:

In my opinion, although the intentions were good, this topic is completely inappropriate. Several people were indirectly mentioned in the original post when they haven't been approached by you. If you think someone has a problem pertaining to their drug use, you should be approaching them directly. This is not a public issue and should not be made one.

ps. I don't see ecstasy being mentioned in the list of horrible drugs that people do.


Posted by raveed on Apr-19-2006 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Superstring

Now, financially, I'm also sure that this makes more sense. Book 1/2 less DJ's. Make them play until 5AM. Most of the money is probably made by the club prior to 2:30 (when the license ends)... The only things bought/sold after that are red-bulls and waters. I'm sure it's not worth it to keep the club open b/c of red-bull and water, while you're paying 1-2 extra DJ's another 20-30 K (case this weekend, probably Gabriel's and MO's fees).



but dont u think that other institutions would take advantage of this situation and make their clubs after hours with regular djs playing??

im sure the aspect of staging events and opening clubs earlier has already been considered and dismissed due to less profitability issues. It is a business after all.

People tend to be doing more constructive activities during the day which will be hindered should this added distraction be placed b4 them and should they go for an early party, the possibility could be that at the end of that event, they would want to go and continue partying elsewhere which could lead to the same scenario.

At the end of the day, we cant be blaming external factors for our own faults.


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