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Posted by MarkT on Feb-26-2007 02:43:

not a bad deal at all...though I doubt Dixon will get much playing time unless someone gets hurt.

It's too bad Jones didn't pan out...I really thought he'd surprise a lot of people here.

The only thing I don't like is that it buries Derrick Martin on the bench if they treat Dixon more as a PG than a SG. I want Martin to stay here to help bring along TJ and Calderon.

The real motivation behind the deal is $$$. Jones had three years and more money left on his contract comparted to Dixon's 2 years. I just hope it doesn't mean Martin is outta here.


Posted by Yohan on Feb-26-2007 02:49:

I think Martin is going to stick around as an assistant coach. He is one already anyways.

Mitchell and Colangelo knows the value of Martin as an influence in the team.

I don't think they'd be crazy to throw that away.


Posted by MarkT on Feb-26-2007 02:56:

amen!

now they should bring back Oak to coach the big guys and give them all a nasty streak


Posted by exstasie on Feb-26-2007 02:59:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
not a bad deal at all...though I doubt Dixon will get much playing time unless someone gets hurt.

It's too bad Jones didn't pan out...I really thought he'd surprise a lot of people here.

The only thing I don't like is that it buries Derrick Martin on the bench if they treat Dixon more as a PG than a SG. I want Martin to stay here to help bring along TJ and Calderon.

The real motivation behind the deal is $$$. Jones had three years and more money left on his contract comparted to Dixon's 2 years. I just hope it doesn't mean Martin is outta here.


Exactly about the money! Jones contract was to pay out like over $9 million in the next three years!

We all know that the Raps aren't going to win the championship this year...so its great to see them planning for a run in the upcoming years!


Posted by DigDeep on Feb-27-2007 01:53:

Raptors are getting smoked right now.....

and Anthony Parker just limped off the court - lets hope it's not too serious.


Posted by Yohan on Feb-27-2007 02:07:

My housemate (well, he's the landlord) has rogers digital cable, but no sports channels.

No more Raps game for me (except for those on Sportsnet)


Posted by DigDeep on Feb-27-2007 02:48:

92 - 70, Spurs - 9:40 left in the 4th


Posted by SuperJimbo on Mar-01-2007 06:21:

ESPN The Magazine: Meet Andrea Bargnani
By Chris Broussard
ESPN The Magazine

Editor's note: This article appears in the March 12 issue of ESPN The Magazine.

Years from now -- when it's routine to see him dropping three-pointers over the outstretched arms of clumsy, lumbering big men and SportsCenter regularly features him spinning on the block and posterizing clawing defenders, when his uncanny passes draw comparisons to those of Bill Walton and Chris Webber -- we'll point to a cold November morning in Denver as the NBA birth of Andrea Bargnani.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/...spnmag/bargnani


AN EXCERPT....

"Teammate Anthony Parker cuts through all the psycho-babble. He says, "He's absolutely fearless. Why? I think he was just born with it." Bargnani himself brushes off talk of his extraordinary self-confidence. "I'm just a normal person," he says. But the trait is real, measurable, in fact.

For years, NBA teams have used the Caliper Profile to evaluate potential draft picks. The Caliper is a personality profile used by numerous corporations and organizations to measure one's capacity to excel in specific situations. Over the past 24 years, Caliper has assessed more than 20,000 athletes, including NBA players from Detroit, San Antonio, Denver and Phoenix. Colangelo has long been sold on the system. When he heard how Bargnani measured up, he nearly dropped the phone.

"They said his upside and potential were off the charts," Colangelo says from the tunnel of the Air Canada Centre as Bargnani drains a three against the Cavaliers. "They said, 'Out of all the athletes we've profiled, we've never seen anything like this.' "

The test showed that Bargnani is virtually oblivious to what others think of him. And his tremendous ability to block out such potentially negative pressures enables him to focus completely on the task at hand. So the expectations and anxieties that come with being the No.1 pick, or the only Italian-born player in the league, or even taking a game-winning shot, don't even register with him."


SuperJimbo Prediction: Bosh + Bargnani = legitmate title run within 2-3 years...


Posted by slingshot on Mar-01-2007 20:10:

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/

6th?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?

wtf, amazing.


Posted by MarkT on Mar-01-2007 20:17:

^^^
quote:
Only the Mavs and Pistons had more wins in February than the Raps' nine. A factor in all those wins: as a team, Toronto shot 50.7 percent for the month -- tops in the league.


sick.


Posted by Yohan on Mar-01-2007 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
^^^


sick.

Hiring that Triano dude as shooting coach paid off.

Now. That rebounding problem...


Posted by MarkT on Mar-01-2007 23:22:

^^^ Dave Hopla...the man who apparently never misses a shot, lol.

I'd like to see them bring back Oakley as a coach to instill some toughness in the Raps


Posted by TO guy on Mar-02-2007 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
^^^ Dave Hopla...the man who apparently never misses a shot, lol.

I'd like to see them bring back Oakley as a coach to instill some toughness in the Raps


+1

I loved Oak in TO.

Raps ARE tougher though. Have you seen Bosh lately? He's gotta have at least an extra 30 pounds over last year. He's no longer a stick.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Mar-02-2007 04:48:

Looking at the standings now and we're 0.5 games behind Washington for 3rd place. I'm guessing that by the end of next week we'll pass Washington.

Oh and SuperJimbo: Bosh + Bargnani will be a force to be reckoned with in 2-3 years. The worst part is (for opponents) is that we have a whole squad full of players who can win a game. If Bosh & Bargnani don't demolish a team, then Garbajosa, Parker, Peterson, Calderon, Ford or Dixon will.


Posted by SuperJimbo on Mar-02-2007 05:25:

^^^ Not sure the word "demolish" is the right one (when applied to Garbajosa, Parker, Peterson, Calderon, Ford or Dixon), but I get your drift.

Also, I'm thinking that the Juan Dixon trade is going to be viewed as a steal by year end. Juan is incredibly quick, an excellent scorer and much much tougher than Fred Jones. I think Juan fits in perfectly, and I will be very surprised if Joey Graham gets much court time the rest of the way out, especially when Parker gets back...


Posted by infinity HiGH on Mar-02-2007 05:40:

Yea "demolish" might be a bit of a stretch, but together those players can cause a lot of damage to the opposing team.

And I agree with regards to Juan Dixon. I can see him playing some of his best basketball with us because he matches our style of play so well.


Posted by slingshot on Mar-07-2007 05:15:

Well, it looks like our Raptors are back to reality again. As amazing as this last stretch was, many of us probably thought that it would be sustainable for them to play at such a high level for the rest of the season.

3 very lob-sided loses and we're back to frowning again.

IMO I don't see the raps exceeding the 5 games over mark for the rest of the season. If they somehow manage to string together another nice solid streak of play to flirt with the 10 games over .500 mark I think we should be thanking the higher forces.


Posted by Yohan on Mar-07-2007 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
Well, it looks like our Raptors are back to reality again. As amazing as this last stretch was, many of us probably thought that it would be sustainable for them to play at such a high level for the rest of the season.

3 very lob-sided loses and we're back to frowning again.

IMO I don't see the raps exceeding the 5 games over mark for the rest of the season. If they somehow manage to string together another nice solid streak of play to flirt with the 10 games over .500 mark I think we should be thanking the higher forces.

I think it's also a sign that opposing teams are actually taking the Raps seriously.
Took them long enough to figure out that the Raps are actually a decent team.


Posted by exstasie on Mar-07-2007 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
I think it's also a sign that opposing teams are actually taking the Raps seriously.
Took them long enough to figure out that the Raps are actually a decent team.


I didn't get a chance to watch the game, but looks like we were kinda blown out again.

I do think this is more of what the Raptors can actually produce, but I believe that they currently are a +.500 team and will hopefully finish the season above 500.

Since our team is so young, every single game brings more experience to this guys and helps build and become stronger. I seriously think that in a few years, if the Raps don't do any stupid trades and maintain most of their top players, that they'll be in contention for the Championship.

I hope they make the playoffs as that will give majority of their players at least some playoff experience, which they desperately need.

And the Playoffs are looking pretty good right now since NJ and Knicks both lost tonight as well!


Posted by infinity HiGH on Mar-07-2007 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
I think it's also a sign that opposing teams are actually taking the Raps seriously.
Took them long enough to figure out that the Raps are actually a decent team.


Yep. I think it's a combination of that and a bunch of other factors. Raptors aren't playing as solid on the D. They were shooting ~65% today though, which is amazing, but they were killed on defense. Couple that with Parker being injured. He's undoubtedly our best defender right now, and when we dont' have him to guard the likes of Lebron, Arenas, etc. this is what happens.


Posted by DigDeep on Mar-07-2007 13:58:

Honestly, there were only two factors that came into last nights blow out.

1.) Fatigue - it showed... the Raps hit the fucking wall. Sluggish, lack of quickness, these guys are just tired. They really need to wake up and realize that this is now the point in the season where they either coast their way into the playoffs relying on their shitty division to push them in OR play like they did in the month of February and make a run in the playoffs.

2.) Incredible shooting - Washington just shot the lights out. Their whole night can be summed up by one play in the end of the first half. After hitting like six shots in a row - Arenas lined up for a three that was almost six feet behind the arc - and nailed it. These guys were just hot lastnight, and I'm convinced that even if they were playing the best team in the league lastnight (Dallas) they still would have been unstopable.


Posted by tobywan on Mar-07-2007 14:02:

Ack, last night's loss was a tough one to swallow...but you need "tough love" sometimes and put in your place as the Raps have been gettin' a ton of attention from 'round the league.


Posted by Yohan on Mar-08-2007 16:20:

Thank you Portland for giving us Juan Dixon.

Doubt Joey Graham is going to be happy with lack of playing time down the road though. Then again, he's been so inconsistent all season

Imagine where the Raps would be if Iguodala was drafted instead of Araujo...


Posted by jon jon on Mar-08-2007 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Button
Honestly, there were only two factors that came into last nights blow out.

1.) Fatigue - it showed... the Raps hit the fucking wall. Sluggish, lack of quickness, these guys are just tired. They really need to wake up and realize that this is now the point in the season where they either coast their way into the playoffs relying on their shitty division to push them in OR play like they did in the month of February and make a run in the playoffs.

2.) Incredible shooting - Washington just shot the lights out. Their whole night can be summed up by one play in the end of the first half. After hitting like six shots in a row - Arenas lined up for a three that was almost six feet behind the arc - and nailed it. These guys were just hot lastnight, and I'm convinced that even if they were playing the best team in the league lastnight (Dallas) they still would have been unstopable.


yup, I agree completely.


Posted by slingshot on Mar-11-2007 19:48:

woah.


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