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Originally posted by julien2 and second...NEO-TRANCE RULES

hahaha this guy is remarkable...


"NEO-TRANCE" OWNS YE ALL BITCHESSS YEEEE.

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Originally posted by Az none of the people you've mentioned as going "electro" actually produce or play anything near "electro"

Well for the sake of the "definition" of the term electro, let's label the overall the sound from the list provided as "popular buzzy sound" as Clovis mentioned above. This is done to distinguish "electro" such as Baby Anne from Buzzy Bleepy Bloopy sounds from Shiloh.

Baby Anne is breaks.

I consider it electro breaks but hey you can label it breaks if you want. Just my opinion. Just like Resonantvibes labels Eelke Kleijn in its "electro" genre and beatport labels robbie riveria in its electro category. But back on topic, you have yet to actually discuss the change in sound from these "popular" artists from progressive to ____< insert definition (uniform sound). But if you want to continue to be anal about the actual definition of electro as opposed to staying on topic: "The movement from progressive to this new trendy popular electro house", so be it

Do you deny that this movement overall is not true? With the examples of past and present tunes given.

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Originally posted by LittleGoku Do you deny that this movement overall is not true? With the examples of past and present tunes given.

I'm not denying shit. I've been following this change in house music since Sasha & Digweed's Essential Mix in 2004, in my opinion the turning point for progressive house. Since then, all of the artists who used to do prog trance in 99, then prog house in 2000-2003, have yet again followed the two brits into this nonsense genre. Quite sad really, that so many artists have so little musical integrity.

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Originally posted by distant I'm not denying shit. I've been following this change in house music since Sasha & Digweed's Essential Mix in 2004, in my opinion the turning point for progressive house. Since then, all of the artists who used to do prog trance in 99, then prog house in 2000-2003, have yet again followed the two brits into this nonsense genre. Quite sad really, that so many artists have so little musical integrity.

100% agree with that. So true sadly

In all honesty, I believe Trance is in better shape than the progressive scene so I don't know why the threadstarter is complaining about the trance scene. Although it is not as grand as it once was, I still enjoy today's productions.

*turns up Alfa - Sacrosanct* full volume.

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Originally posted by LittleGoku Do you deny that this movement overall is not true? With the examples of past and present tunes given.

YES, its true, AMEN!



The sad thing is that, its like people have lost any objective musical criteria...they will just follow the hype, and they will tend to like it in the end. Even the same producers that play these stuff don't like it. I know from first hand about a progressive producer who got into this "electro-buzz-trash" sound. In his own words? "Today's music and especially EDM industry is very demanding because it strives. You have to get them what they like or else you will die. At the moment people just like to move their bodies at this shit.So, be it, i have no other choice then give them what they like. There is no other way to get money, signs for my tracks and gigs". Yes, this is what they probably most producers think.


And even we like it even if we don't, its very hard to call today's EDM "underground". How can it be "underground" when everything is a click away in Beatports and Audiojelly? Everything has become so easy, so chip, so plastic. I mean, i remember that being a dj was to enter that dodgy underground store and buy the long-forgotten EP (in vinyl) by Resistance-D with 4-5 amazing tracks that non one had. Now its just press a click in the site and you have it. You and the other 4000 sheep that follow the hype, which in turn is produced by other 4000 sheep that follow the money. Its "sad but true" (to quote an old orbital tune from "snivilisation").

I recant one artist I mentioned.

Derek Howell owns me,

Frijoles Frescos=

I can't wait to hear what Peter Martin and Derek Howell have cooking this year. Although I still think "Cram It Up" was absolute rubbish.

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Originally posted by distant Hi. Have you heard of dubstep? It combines dub, reggae, electro, techno, drum'n'bass, tribal, industrial, ragga, UK garage, hip-hop, breaks, minimalism, experimentalism and ethnic influences all in one genre. So I'd think twice about that statement. 2006 was the year that it really kicked off, with the Breezeblock special in January. 2007 looks even better, with albums from Plastician, Skream and DJ Distance coming in the first quarter. It's quite sad that TA seems completely oblivious to its existence. Most people here live in a trance/house bubble. I haven't seen much urban music being discussed at all. Your loss.

You really do live in your own little try-hard elitist bubble don't you? lol.

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Originally posted by LittleGoku I recant one artist I mentioned. Derek Howell owns me, Frijoles Frescos= I can't wait to hear what Peter Martin and Derek Howell have cooking this year. Although I still think "Cram It Up" was absolute rubbish.

Where can i hear Frijoles Frescos? Doesn't seem to be released? Same thing for cram it up your cram hole, i enjoyed it but can't get a copy!

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Originally posted by HaeD i still lissen to trance to relax and sing to melody. But when i wanna really loose myself to the beat, trance just isn't enough. I dont consider most of trance as dance music, more like happy mood music, that's why i prefer random noise.

agreed. Trance for driving, cleaning the house, etc. House for dancing. If you can't dance, stick to trance

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agreed. Trance for driving, cleaning the house, etc. House for dancing. If you can't dance, stick to trance

lol, you can dance to trance just as well as house...maybe YOU just don't know how. The melodic atmosphere that it gives also makes it more enjoyable, imo. The only difference really is the bpm. It also depends on the song...not ALL trance is FOR dancing.

And if you were to take everything out of dance music and just have beat, it would get rather annoying.

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Originally posted by Hydarnes lol, you can dance to trance just as well as house...maybe YOU just don't know how. The melodic atmosphere that it gives also makes it more enjoyable, imo. The only difference really is the bpm. It also depends on the song...not ALL trance is FOR dancing. And if you were to take everything out of dance music and just have beat, it would get rather annoying.

How does one dance to trance? Let's say you take the same dancing one would do to house, and do it to trance. The increase in BPM would make it a bit difficult right? Unless there's some type of dance

Dancing to house:
Shake shake, funky ass shake shake.

Dancing to trance:
Bob bob, stand in spot for two minutes during breakdown, jump jump.

yeah, that's why I can't stand dancing to trance unless it's hard or tech trance.. those breakdowns make me want to put on skates and glide like Brian Boitano

Don't get me wrong, I love trance, just not at a club when I'm prepared to dance. The house I like actually has some trancey melodic sounds to it but mixed in with tech or tribal and a consistent beat. The best djs can blend different genres, imo.

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Originally posted by dj_bas How does one dance to trance? Let's say you take the same dancing one would do to house, and do it to trance. The increase in BPM would make it a bit difficult right? Unless there's some type of dance

It isn't difficult at all i can asure you
But as you might have figured out it a matter of personal taste what you prefer to dance to.
I myself can't (or don't prefer to) dance to stuff below 134bpm because the tempo itself bores me out. 140bpm and beyond is the only way to go!

And about the dancing, if you ever went to a place were people
'dance to trance' you will notice that everyone has his or her individual style go move with the music. Simply, you don't have to move in a certain way to be 'dancing' because then you will never feel the 'trance' in you! It's the music that controls your body and not yourself. And as i wrote it's very much possible to move with higher bpms if you do it freestyle. But i understand your statement if you would try to sync 'the robot' to 160bpm or something

Wow, this thread is bad - even for MD standards.

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Originally posted by Demoted Wow, this thread is bad - even for MD standards.

I can't believe it's 5 pages long.

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Originally posted by Spin Laden agreed. Trance for driving, cleaning the house, etc.

And for grape-picking!

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Originally posted by RJT I can't believe it's 5 pages long.

Same here, going on six.

*pops in some Dance2Trance

Take that, Bas.

I tried to make something serious about this thread some amount pages ago but it turned out people didn't agree with me so i let it go.

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Originally posted by Whirloop I tried to make something serious about this thread some amount pages ago but it turned out people didn't agree with me so i let it go.

The whole bifurcation of forums? I didn't like that idea either. Keep genres together in one music discussion, it helps people break out of niches easier. People with an anti-trance/house/insert-genre bias may find an artist they like out of the genre they supposedly hate if they're all together in one happy family and can be discussed on the same playing field.




Penis.

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Originally posted by LittleGoku Damien Heck---> Progressive--->Now =leaning to more commercial House

I've only taken on a few commercial house projects, I'm not leaning in that direction

- D

I'm driven by basslines (and Honda).. but the tunes that REALLY own me are the ones with lots of melody layered with moving basslines that change scale...

I find most trance tracks have static basslines and tend to be more about melody...

HAving said that, I'll dance to a drunk alien beating a bucket when I'm in the mood...

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Originally posted by UWM You really do live in your own little try-hard elitist bubble don't you? lol.

Too bad you don't know what's really going on in the EDM scene.

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