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Posted by The Highroller on Nov-19-2007 10:38:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
buddy his remix of Spastik is


I have to agree. It's quite good. It rips live.


Posted by stever on Nov-19-2007 16:22:

he was very surprised when i congratulated him on his productions...i guess he doesnt get that comment often??

and how sick is that fuckin spray in 'emissions'

its 32 beats long!


Posted by Skipper on Nov-19-2007 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
buddy his remix of Spastik is

you don't like dubfire, we get it.


He did a remix of spastik?
that track should be left alone!

(I havent heard it, but I can't imagine how it might be improved...its brilliant as is.)


Posted by DigDeep on Nov-19-2007 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
you don't like dubfire, we get it.


I do not dislike him by any means, I've enjoyed some of his sets - even a few of his productions.... I just really didn't 'get' Emissions. Should this thread only be for praise and people who agree with you on Dubfire's level of hotness? lol


Posted by Skipper on Nov-19-2007 18:08:

<--- still stunned that dubfire did the first official remix of spastik since it was released in 1994


Posted by The Highroller on Nov-19-2007 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
Yea, this track is definately a filler track.


I like it. It's not the greatest, but I like more than most of other Dubfire's productions. I like the big drop with the spray sound.


Posted by The Highroller on Nov-19-2007 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
I like it. It's not the greatest, but I like more than most of other Dubfire's productions. I like the big drop with the spray sound.


That said, Space Bird is definitely a better production lol. Techy muthafuckin' goodness!


Posted by Big Boss on Nov-19-2007 22:52:

I like Emissions...I heard it at Stereo, and man, on that soundsystem it's pretty creepy!


Posted by Skipper on Nov-19-2007 23:39:

I don't know why I feel so much disgust for the remix of spastik. At this point, any remix is just going to put a minimal, blippy twist on what is, IMO, a timeless techno track that just is best left alone.

It's like "spastik for dummies" - for when the full effect of the track is too much, play this muted down version.

/rant


Posted by Cribby on Nov-20-2007 00:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
buddy his remix of Spastik is



It's not great at all.

Track is meant to be left alone.


Posted by junkie_vince on Nov-20-2007 00:23:

It�s not really a remix but more of an edit/rework like the title says. All he really did was layer his own beats over it. I bet Ali did it for himself & Hawtin figured it�ll sell so lets put it out. It�s funny because I played the original a few months ago & ppl looked at me like I was from another planet LOL


Posted by SuperJimbo on Nov-20-2007 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Cribby
It's not great at all.

Track is meant to be left alone.


No track is meant to be left alone you presumptuous f*cks. Let people do what they want to do....who knows, maybe one day you might be pleasantly surprised. lol


Posted by jon jon on Nov-20-2007 00:38:

lol this thread has been a bumpy ride...


Posted by Cribby on Nov-20-2007 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by SuperJimbo
maybe one day you might be pleasantly surprised. lol


Not this time, Ballroom Jimbo.


Posted by terrytutone on Nov-20-2007 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by SuperJimbo
No track is meant to be left alone you presumptuous f*cks. Let people do what they want to do....who knows, maybe one day you might be pleasantly surprised. lol


yeah everybody! listen to the guy who has no idea what the proper use of the word presumptuous is


Posted by Special K on Nov-20-2007 00:56:

i dunno kind of dubfire related

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/artic...month-in-techno

and if anything its an interesting read ...


Posted by SuperJimbo on Nov-20-2007 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by terrytutone
yeah everybody! listen to the guy who has no idea what the proper use of the word presumptuous is


Please, enlighten us all with the definition of presumptuous.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-20-2007 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by SuperJimbo
No track is meant to be left alone you presumptuous f*cks. Let people do what they want to do....who knows, maybe one day you might be pleasantly surprised. lol


I'm pleasantly surprised by a lot of remixes and often enjoy them more than the original.
But unless you're going to do something creative with the track that perhaps even challenges the original, I think it's laughable...particularly when the track is spastik.

If you are playing the original of spastik and people look at you like you're from another planet, it's because they don't know a fucking thing about techno.


Posted by SuperJimbo on Nov-20-2007 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I'm pleasantly surprised by a lot of remixes and often enjoy them more than the original.
But unless you're going to do something creative with the track that perhaps even challenges the original, I think it's laughable...


I respect your take on this, but who is to judge what is a creative attempt or not, or if it challenges the original? Every attempt to remix a track is creative act isn't it? "Challenging the original" may mean different things to different people. For example, someone may want to just sample part of the original and move it across genres. Others may want to simply improve it in ways that appeals to an audience that already loves the original. So while you may laugh or ridicule the attempt, others may squeal with delight.

Such is the new rip-mix-and-burn way of life we live in.


Posted by slingshot on Nov-20-2007 01:50:

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Posted by slingshot on Nov-20-2007 01:54:

I'm surprised no one has commented on how all Dubfire did was more or less put some of the loops from his remix of Float Away on top of the original. It's not like he even did anything new for this....took something he already did, and as Vince said....reworked it. I think it works. The loops that he used from Float Away sound retarded on a club system. In general, the majority of the shit Dubfire does sounds retarded on club systems. He has an incredible ear for sounds that sound way better on club systems than everyday studio/car/home systems etc. More often that not I don't particularly enjoy his releases all that much until I hear them in a club.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-20-2007 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
I'm surprised no one has commented on how all Dubfire did was more or less put some of the loops from his remix of Float Away on top of the original. It's not like he even did anything new for this....took something he already did, and as Val said....reworked it.


...which is why I cant stand it!
Spastik isn't just some relatively new, run of the mill loopy techno track, it's one of the top 5 tracks that characterizes the entire genre and history of techno. I think that is one thing most techno heads can agree on - and we don't often agree on much No one has remixed it since it was released in 1994. If you're going to be the first one, maybe put a bit more effort into it.

I get my back up about this track because it changed a lot of my views on electronic music and is probably my favorite record of all time. I always thought that no one had remixed it because they couldn't do a decent enough job of creating something that did enough justice to the original track while creating something new with it at the same time. So to hear this as the first released remix of it in 13 years is disappointing.


Posted by SuperJimbo on Nov-20-2007 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
...which is why I cant stand it!
Spastik isn't just some relatively new, run of the mill loopy techno track, it's one of the top 5 tracks that characterizes the entire genre and history of techno. I think that is one thing most techno heads can agree on - and we don't often agree on much No one has remixed it since it was released in 1994. If you're going to be the first one, maybe put a bit more effort into it.


What a geek! Love it. lol


Posted by slingshot on Nov-20-2007 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
...which is why I cant stand it!
Spastik isn't just some relatively new, run of the mill loopy techno track, it's one of the top 5 tracks that characterizes the entire genre and history of techno. I think that is one thing most techno heads can agree on - and we don't often agree on much No one has remixed it since it was released in 1994. If you're going to be the first one, maybe put a bit more effort into it.


I can totally agree with you on this....but I can also say that I enjoy the tune regardless of the unoriginality of it. Mind you, I'm not exactly a techno connoisseur like you are....so I can see where you're coming from.


Posted by jchung52 on Nov-20-2007 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
No one has remixed it since it was released in 1994.


spastik 2006 (randy katana)?


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