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Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-30-2007 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
When I leave people's houses, i get parents telling me all time to stay under 50km/h. No mention of driving the speed limit.


Unless you're BSing, if other people's parents are telling you all the time to try and stay under 50 km/h, maybe you should just slow the fuck down. I break the speed limit often, but not to the point where my friends' parents are telling me to slow down.


Posted by Zentac_75 on Oct-30-2007 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
It's a joke ppl lol


I always go w/ the flow of the traffic in the fast lane and don't usually go faster than 135 km/h.

Anyone see the crazy accident at the QEW/427 split after Guv on Saturday?

Some car hit the median between the highways and ended up going into the side wall front first. Looked pretty bad.


Didn't see that one, but there was some disaster on the qew eastbound around erin mills/southdown exit.

I honestly counted 20 sets of flashers between cops/ambulances.


Posted by zoogla on Oct-30-2007 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Unless you're BSing, if other people's parents are telling you all the time to try and stay under 50 km/h, maybe you should just slow the fuck down. I break the speed limit often, but not to the point where my friends' parents are telling me to slow down.

lol whoa I didn't read it that way...although it makes sense. I have very close family friends (who I consider aunts/uncles; culturally) who just make the same comments to me that they make to their own kids. So when this news broke out, they just repeated it to me (and every other youth--lol I'm not exactly youth anymore). That's how I read it.

Mind you, I'm a speed freak so my above point is moot, in my case lol.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-30-2007 18:17:

It could be my parents too - I only got comments about my speed from them when I was learning to drive. Nowadays, they either understand I drive more or less rationally, or leave it to be my business how I drive. Of course, I do exercise discretion, and refrain from speeding a lot when I'm driving with them there.

Sorry for the harsh words, Jeff - the shittiness of October is getting to me.


Posted by exstasie on Oct-30-2007 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Unless you're BSing, if other people's parents are telling you all the time to try and stay under 50 km/h, maybe you should just slow the fuck down. I break the speed limit often, but not to the point where my friends' parents are telling me to slow down.



no no, no BSing, but I know they were just saying it because of all the publicity it was getting.

Yes, I do speed, and tend to take turns at a higher speed than most, but I don't drive recklessly or absurdly fast. I never race down the highway, I always stay consistent w/ the flow of traffic. Somtimes the flow of traffic is at 130km/h other times its 11km/h.

This law was all over the papers and news so it was hard for ppl not to notice it.


Posted by AustralianGQ on Oct-31-2007 00:24:

i LOL at all u fucking losers who do 50km over in ur piece of shit 88 civic or 92 acura or whatever u got. doing 50 over is absolutely unncesary. on 400 series highways i do 100km max. alot of ppl do 120/130km and even thats too much and not neccesary. u deserve what u get, i could care less if u get a $5000 fine and loose 4 demerit points. dont act like an idiot on the road then.

in 1 month police nabbed 1025 drivers, lol unreal.....


Posted by exstasie on Oct-31-2007 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
i LOL at all u fucking losers who do 50km over in ur piece of shit 88 civic or 92 acura or whatever u got. doing 50 over is absolutely unncesary. on 400 series highways i do 100km max. alot of ppl do 120/130km and even thats too much and not neccesary. u deserve what u get, i could care less if u get a $5000 fine and loose 4 demerit points. dont act like an idiot on the road then.

in 1 month police nabbed 1025 drivers, lol unreal.....



Not all of us have 88 Civic/or 92 Acuras.


Some people actually have nice cars. And driving 100km max on a 400 series highway probably causes more accidents than someone driving 130km/h.

Honestly though, there are a lot of times where the slow lane is going atleast 120km/h. I don't know how you can drive safely at 100km/h when everyone else is going 120+


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-31-2007 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DAS
cops calibrate thier radar/laser units before each shift using a fixed reference at the division, and all cop cars carry a 'radar ticket' proving that thier speedos have been tested against known radar units so they can accurately pace you.

They're actually supposed to test their radars before and after every driver they stop... but even for just the overall shift, you'd be surprised how many of them don't test afterwards.

Unfortunately, a lot of the judges simply don't give a shit. Spend any length of time in traffic court and the asinine decisions will blow your mind. I still remember some dumb blonde chick pleading guilty to going over 180 km/h, and the judge dismissing the case.

Realistically, if you take your ticket to court and the officer on duty shows up at the trial, and you're not either a babe or a minority willing to play the race card, you're very likely fucked.

If a cop actually paced you with his speedometer, you have no chance at all of winning. They don't have to prove that they calibrated it - it's just assumed that the speedometers are accurate. You can try to fight those tickets, but really it's just a waste of time. Fighting laser tickets is probably a waste of time too, those things don't realy need calibration, they just have a self-test that takes 2 seconds to run.


quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Not all of us have 88 Civic/or 92 Acuras.


Some people actually have nice cars.

Don't you own a VW Golf or something?


Posted by exstasie on Oct-31-2007 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

Don't you own a VW Golf or something?


Not Me...That was Skilton haha

I drive a 2007 Acura CSX (Mine) and 2005 BMW X3 (Father's)


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-31-2007 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Not Me...That was Skilton haha

I drive a 2007 Acura CSX (Mine) and 2005 BMW X3 (Father's)


what about the other car you drive, the jeep one?


Posted by exstasie on Oct-31-2007 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
what about the other car you drive, the jeep one?


We sold it!!

We had that car for like 5 years and we traded it in when I got my Acura!

I'll miss that car as I had a lot of goods time with (including our road trip to London! woohoo )


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-31-2007 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
We sold it!!

We had that car for like 5 years and we traded it in when I got my Acura!

I'll miss that car as I had a lot of goods time with (including our road trip to London! woohoo )


aawww nice!! congrats!
omg, the London trip was legendary! I wish I could come out like that more now like on Dec. 28th for example *sigh*


Posted by geroin on Oct-31-2007 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
i LOL at all u fucking losers who do 50km over in ur piece of shit 88 civic or 92 acura or whatever u got. doing 50 over is absolutely unncesary. on 400 series highways i do 100km max. alot of ppl do 120/130km and even thats too much and not neccesary. u deserve what u get, i could care less if u get a $5000 fine and loose 4 demerit points. dont act like an idiot on the road then.

in 1 month police nabbed 1025 drivers, lol unreal.....


you can lol all you fucking want
i rather be places rather than spend half of my day driving like you. it's people and drivers like you that cause fucking traffic jams on the highways because you are being to careful not to hit the car in front of you which is 500m away slowing all the other cars down. Are you also one of those that go 50km/h on the highway after a little bit of rain? get off the highway if you want to go slow.


Posted by zoogla on Oct-31-2007 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
Are you also one of those that go 50km/h on the highway after a little bit of rain? get off the highway if you want to go slow.

lol I hate that.


Posted by Dr. DAS on Oct-31-2007 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
you can lol all you fucking want
i rather be places rather than spend half of my day driving like you.


What kinds of places?

Hospitals?

Morgues?

Graveyards?

Jail?


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-31-2007 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
you can lol all you fucking want
i rather be places rather than spend half of my day driving like you. it's people and drivers like you that cause fucking traffic jams on the highways because you are being to careful not to hit the car in front of you which is 500m away slowing all the other cars down. Are you also one of those that go 50km/h on the highway after a little bit of rain? get off the highway if you want to go slow.


its people who speed that cause traffic jams....if people weren't speeding then they wouldn't have to slow down for people who are obeying the law.

What you keep arguing is that people who are obeying the law are in the wrong and people who are disobeying the law are in the right


Posted by geroin on Oct-31-2007 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
its people who speed that cause traffic jams....if people weren't speeding then they wouldn't have to slow down for people who are obeying the law.


ok.


Posted by AustralianGQ on Nov-01-2007 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
you can lol all you fucking want
i rather be places rather than spend half of my day driving like you. it's people and drivers like you that cause fucking traffic jams on the highways because you are being to careful not to hit the car in front of you which is 500m away slowing all the other cars down. Are you also one of those that go 50km/h on the highway after a little bit of rain? get off the highway if you want to go slow.



i do the speed limit. if it says 80, i do 80-90, if it says 100km ill do around 100. and no i dont slow down for rain, im not an old person.

ive never been in a accident in my life, so me doing the speed limit doesnt cause accidents, its idiots who think their hot shit and do well over the speed limit.


Posted by zoogla on Nov-01-2007 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
its idiots who think their hot shit and do well over the speed limit.

what if u don't do well over the speed limit but still think ur hot shit?


Posted by geroin on Nov-01-2007 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
i do the speed limit. if it says 80, i do 80-90, if it says 100km ill do around 100. and no i dont slow down for rain, im not an old person.

ive never been in a accident in my life, so me doing the speed limit doesnt cause accidents, its idiots who think their hot shit and do well over the speed limit.


when the hell did i mention that you doing speed limit causes accidents,
it causes fucking traffic when you go speed limit in the left lane!
speeding on the highway does not cause accident if it's done in a safe manner.


Posted by RandomGirl on Nov-01-2007 04:53:

Re: Re: Street Racing

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
OMG 40 whole people? The number of other problems which have killed more people are endless. Lets take care of those first.


You might be interested in this article:

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.a...77&Cr=road&Cr1=

It's a bigger problem than you think.

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
asking speeders to stay below 50k/h over isn't too much to ask.


quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DAS

Driving isn't a right, it's a privilige, that's why we have licences (and graduated licencing), to ensure you know how to safely operate you vehicle. You endanger others, you lose that privilige. I think one week to cool off is perfectly reasonable.
I would say that time trials and/or just seeing how fast your car will go absolutely counts as racing. Racing is just the umbrella term here.


quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DAS
you need to be aware that what you're doing is illegal and accepth the repercussions of your actions.

Just because you are in control of your car doesn't mean you're in control of the million other variables such as changes in road conditions, mechanical failure, cars turning out of hidden intersections or driveways or - especially in Algonquin - an errant moose walking out into the road. The stopping distance, reaction time and kinetic energy afforded between 80km/h and 130km/h is signifigant.


Agreed.

quote:
Originally posted by King Luis

speeding is not what kills. its reckless driving and people who are not in control of their car.


This is not true. A reckless driver can be going nuts all over the road, but if they are driving at 40 km instead of 90, they are much more likely to survive when they smash into a tree.

The speed in which you're driving correlates to the severity of the damage done. At 150, you have a wayyyy higher chance of dying from an accident than at 100.

And as I already copied and bolded Dr.Das' comment, being reckless is not a matter of how you perceive your own driving, it is a matter of how well you can react to an unexpected circumstance. The reaction time you have going at 150km is a lot less than 100km, and that extra time could mean yours and someone else's life.

I was on the 401 with a couple of other TOTA's last year... we were driving along and everything was normal, when out of nowhere, the guy beside us lost control of his car. I can only guess that his tire popped or something because it was the most random thing I had ever witnessed. Anyway, he went swerving erratically into traffic and we all witnessed a huge pile up.

No one can predict this. If you were coming at his car at 150km, there is a very high chance you would have flown into him, and died without a doubt.

The rules set out for the road are there to protect the people driving on them. The people who go against those rules need to be severely punished. Why? Is it a punishment for the endangerment you are to others.

If I was in control of anything, I would ticket people for not signaling, for going too slow, for changing lanes incessantly for no reason, for tailgating etc etc.

Road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death! That alone should be enough reason for the tunes to change.

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DAS
What kinds of places?

Hospitals?

Morgues?

Graveyards?

Jail?


LOL I was thinking the exact same thing.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-01-2007 13:06:

Re: Re: Re: Street Racing

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
You might be interested in this article:

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.a...77&Cr=road&Cr1=

It's a bigger problem than you think.







Agreed.



This is not true. A reckless driver can be going nuts all over the road, but if they are driving at 40 km instead of 90, they are much more likely to survive when they smash into a tree.

The speed in which you're driving correlates to the severity of the damage done. At 150, you have a wayyyy higher chance of dying from an accident than at 100.

And as I already copied and bolded Dr.Das' comment, being reckless is not a matter of how you perceive your own driving, it is a matter of how well you can react to an unexpected circumstance. The reaction time you have going at 150km is a lot less than 100km, and that extra time could mean yours and someone else's life.

I was on the 401 with a couple of other TOTA's last year... we were driving along and everything was normal, when out of nowhere, the guy beside us lost control of his car. I can only guess that his tire popped or something because it was the most random thing I had ever witnessed. Anyway, he went swerving erratically into traffic and we all witnessed a huge pile up.

No one can predict this. If you were coming at his car at 150km, there is a very high chance you would have flown into him, and died without a doubt.

The rules set out for the road are there to protect the people driving on them. The people who go against those rules need to be severely punished. Why? Is it a punishment for the endangerment you are to others.

If I was in control of anything, I would ticket people for not signaling, for going too slow, for changing lanes incessantly for no reason, for tailgating etc etc.

Road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death! That alone should be enough reason for the tunes to change.



LOL I was thinking the exact same thing.


excellent post


Posted by Dr. DAS on Nov-01-2007 13:39:

Re: Re: Re: Street Racing

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa


Three quotes in one post !!!

You get a cookie. Also, a hug.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-01-2007 13:42:

the below is from an accident I investigated...



4 18-21 year olds, travelling 132 KM/h (according to the vehicle computer), struck a small cluster of trees (4 trees ranging from 3" to 5" in diameter).
The front right passenger fractured his tibia, fibula, 3 ribs, left clavicle, and suffered a traumatic brain injury.
The driver fractured his skull, femer, bruised his heart, collapsed a lung, suffered a traumatic brain injury resulting in cognitive impairments, and spent nearly 2 weeks in a coma.
The rear right passenger was lucky, only broke his righ humerus
the rear left passenger died but not until he had spent nearly an hour in extreme pain.

BTW, the driver swore to me in his statement that he was an excellent driver.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Nov-01-2007 13:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
BTW, the driver swore to me in his statement that he was an excellent driver.


ouch..


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