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Posted by Quethas on Apr-13-2008 10:31:

I find it amazing how Armin can found that bad singers for his tracks


Posted by woscar on Apr-13-2008 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by K4SP4
I can't understand all these bashing post before 1st listening. We see only tracknames, nothing more. This forum is so boring sometimes. It's all about non-stop Armin complaining. If U know all about producing music, so why U don't do it?
Like I said before, I'll wait few more weeks for this release. Full stop.


Taking into account the amount of shit Armin's been producing and playing in his sets lately it's only predictable that this will be shit as well.

Oh, and this argument right here:

quote:
Originally posted by K4SP4 If U know all about producing music, so why U don't do it?


has only been used like 637,733,914,908,234,835 times before on TA.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-13-2008 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DJCJUDGE
And guess what Tijs fanboys...if you dont like Armin or his music, DONT LISTEN TO IT!!!!

What does Tijs have to do with any of this?

And sometimes it's just not possible to not listen to something you don't like. Unless I was to slice off my ears.


Posted by ReclusNdangrmnt on Apr-13-2008 16:19:

Even if EoL wasn't good, it's still better than this.

Moot point, anyways.


Posted by Stino on Apr-13-2008 18:22:

going wrong just entered 5th place in the Dutch top 100 charts... i guess some people like it.

I guess u make an album with a certain mission and point of view. IF his point was to make an album that is both trance and pop and commerically attracting for many non-die-hard trance listeners... then he achieved that goal. Which is a very valid goal indeed, because as no 1 dj of the world you want to reach as many people as possible... and ofcourse per track you can argue whether its done well or not, thats personal preference, but as a whole i think the album will succeed in its goal.

It doesnt matter what the album would have been like because it would have been bashed whatever it would have been.... and this point is a non-arguable one.


Posted by Palladium on Apr-13-2008 19:53:

well maybe he has to change his radioshow name now

a state of dance?

more pop, more house, more prog. this way he'll get to more people and maybe get some attention to get booked and sell his albums

srsly, that stink-o post is all full of shit


Posted by DJCJUDGE on Apr-14-2008 00:40:

Your a douche bag.....he doesnt only play trance, reason being, if he played trance for 2 straight hours, ppl would get bored, and turn it off.

And the music as a whole puts you into a trance, it doesnt necessarily have to be trance playing for 120 minutes.
Word on word play, ASOT....trance music, and the mood it puts you in.

Now go do your homework.

And if this album had NO vocals, you guys would still bitch about it.

And how does vocals make a song pop?

I never would of thought Touch Me by Armin should be classified as "pop".

TA never ceases to amaze me with the ppl that dont know anything about music.


Posted by Neon Sky on Apr-14-2008 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by smakmagik
Just heard
Armin van Buuren feat. Dj Shah - Going Wrong (Sean Tyas remix)




Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-14-2008 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJCJUDGE
TA never ceases to amaze me with the ppl that dont know anything about music.

You got that right.


Posted by woscar on Apr-14-2008 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Stino
going wrong just entered 5th place in the Dutch top 100 charts... i guess some people like it.

I guess u make an album with a certain mission and point of view. IF his point was to make an album that is both trance and pop and commerically attracting for many non-die-hard trance listeners... then he achieved that goal. Which is a very valid goal indeed, because as no 1 dj of the world you want to reach as many people as possible... and ofcourse per track you can argue whether its done well or not, thats personal preference, but as a whole i think the album will succeed in its goal.

It doesnt matter what the album would have been like because it would have been bashed whatever it would have been.... and this point is a non-arguable one.


Cannot believe the amount of stupidity that comes out of your brain, with this comment right here being the epitome:

quote:
Originally posted by Stino
as no 1 dj of the world you want to reach as many people as possible...


What does being the #1 DJ have to do with producing an album?


Posted by DJLafleur on Apr-14-2008 03:13:

From the samples it sounds better then 76 but Idk id rather wait to hear the "FULL" album before judging


Posted by DJCJUDGE on Apr-14-2008 04:43:

I dont know about being better than "76", but better than Shivers, for sure.


Posted by Stino on Apr-14-2008 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar99
Cannot believe the amount of stupidity that comes out of your brain, with this comment right here being the epitome:



What does being the #1 DJ have to do with producing an album?


if you dont see that relation you are just about as stupid... incredibly narrowminded.... i dont even bother explaining because its too obvious.

ow well.. in short then. Being voted number one DJ is not purely based on DJ skills as everyone knows. It includes selling your name as a brand, including productions, albums, dj gigs, big parties, a record label etc etc etc.... One of the essential parts of staying in that position is getting your name out to the big audience, by for example releasing commercial albums.

Well, there is the relation of being number 1 DJ and producing albums, wasnt so hard was it?


Posted by PETRAN on Apr-14-2008 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Stino
if you dont see that relation you are just about as stupid... incredibly narrowminded.... i dont even bother explaining because its too obvious.

ow well.. in short then. Being voted number one DJ is not purely based on DJ skills as everyone knows. It includes selling your name as a brand, including productions, albums, dj gigs, big parties, a record label etc etc etc.... One of the essential parts of staying in that position is getting your name out to the big audience, by for example releasing commercial albums.

Well, there is the relation of being number 1 DJ and producing albums, wasnt so hard was it?





He could well be the worlds number-1 dj and come with an awesome trance album full of innovation, groundbreaking sounds and new more coplex and honest melodies.During the 70s Pink Floyd used to make massive gigs in the pyramids with lasers and stuff, and always had this forward-thinking art-rock space sound without the need to sell-over in order to sustain their big name.



Yes, you can be a big name and you can choose on how to sustain/promote your "bigness". You could either be No.1-name by choosing the "Hard way", which is pushing boundaries and creating something trully beautiful and artistic (and hence you have a higher chance for history to mention your name) or you could either choose the "Easy way" by giving the masses what they want, pleasing them with your "one-trick" methods over and over again. Yes, its not hard where Armin falls on such a hypothetic scale...


Posted by Stino on Apr-14-2008 16:36:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
He could well be the worlds number-1 dj and come with an awesome trance album full of innovation, groundbreaking sounds and new more coplex and honest melodies.During the 70s Pink Floyd used to make massive gigs in the pyramids with lasers and stuff, and always had this forward-thinking art-rock space sound without the need to sell-over in order to sustain their big name.



Yes, you can be a big name and you can choose on how to sustain/promote your "bigness". You could either be No.1-name by choosing the "Hard way", which is pushing boundaries and creating something trully beautiful and artistic (and hence you have a higher chance for history to mention your name) or you could either choose the "Easy way" by giving the masses what they want, pleasing them with your "one-trick" methods over and over again. Yes, its not hard where Armin falls on such a hypothetic scale...


comparing with pink floyd is quite unrealistic ofcourse... pink floyd is legend. Trying to be innovative (as main focus point) wont get you to the number one DJ spot.. not these days.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-14-2008 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Stino
comparing with pink floyd is quite unrealistic ofcourse... pink floyd is legend. Trying to be innovative (as main focus point) wont get you to the number one DJ spot.. not these days.

How would you know when nobody is even trying?


Posted by iLLnaDa on Apr-14-2008 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
hoooly fuck..
perhaps armin should get a mic and sing too


my thoughts exactly


Posted by woscar on Apr-15-2008 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Stino
if you dont see that relation you are just about as stupid... incredibly narrowminded.... i dont even bother explaining because its too obvious.

ow well.. in short then. Being voted number one DJ is not purely based on DJ skills as everyone knows. It includes selling your name as a brand, including productions, albums, dj gigs, big parties, a record label etc etc etc.... One of the essential parts of staying in that position is getting your name out to the big audience, by for example releasing commercial albums.

Well, there is the relation of being number 1 DJ and producing albums, wasnt so hard was it?



Apparently you missed the memo that said DJing and producing are not the same thing. A DJ is someone who mixes records and provides a string of music at parties, not a moneymaking machine, even though that's what your beloved DJMag wants you to believe. Stop trying so hard


Posted by Luniq 9 on Apr-15-2008 06:05:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar99
Apparently you missed the memo that said DJing and producing are not the same thing. A DJ is someone who mixes records and provides a string of music at parties, not a moneymaking machine, even though that's what your beloved DJMag wants you to believe. Stop trying so hard


its not the same thing for YOU - but the average of the people doesnt give a shit about this. they think "oh an album, great, oh its pop, he must be a great dj! :votevotevotevote:"


Posted by body125z on Apr-15-2008 22:08:

that shit released ( or leaked)

total crap


Posted by PatMcGroin on Apr-15-2008 22:12:

i cant wait to listen to this, laugh my ass off, and then bash the shit out of it.

yippee!!!


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-15-2008 22:22:

I got the leaked version. Oh lawdy is it as bad as presumed. That first soap opera track is actually 9 minutes long An extended period of soap opera rave, which could almost be considered ultra-redundant.


Posted by body125z on Apr-15-2008 22:22:

wtf

this album is even worst than i IMAGINED


Posted by rizo on Apr-15-2008 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
wtf

this album is even worst than i IMAGINED

i see what you did there lol


Posted by freezer007 on Apr-15-2008 23:00:

1. Armin van Buuren - Imagine 9:27 - it has long dramatic intro, than after 3 minutes it kicks off into nice trancer, nothing mindblowing, but nice 7+/10

2. Armin van Buuren with DJ Shah feat. Chris Jones - Going Wrong 5:36 - good pop trance, its a love/hate track, I like it 8+/10

3. Armin van Buuren feat. Jaren - Unforgiveable 8:04 - slower vocal track, the voclas are nothing special and melody is quite boring too 6-/10

4. Armin van Buuren - Face To Face 7:29 - really good intrumental trance track with nice nice piano melody 8+/10

5. Armin van Buuren feat. Audrey Gallagher - Hold On To Me 7:16 starts with amazing melody, but than comes quite annoying vocals by audrey, anyway the track has nice optimistic mood and i like it 8/10

6. Armin van Buuren feat. Sharon den Adel - In And Out Of Love 6:01sounds like Oakemfold - Southern Sun to me..and its quite ok 7/10

7. Armin van Buuren feat. Jacqueline Govaert - Never Say Never 6:59 boing track with really dull melody 4/10

8. Armin van Buuren feat. Cathy Burton - Rain 7:11 rank 1 revival? no...its only armin covering rank 1 sound, not bad 7+/10

9. Armin van Buuren feat. Vera Ostrova - What If 7:17 sound like something from wippenberg, or some other tetris-sound producer 4/10

10.Armin van Buuren feat. Jennifer Rene - Fine Without You 6:26 another pop-trance track, not so interesting 6/10

11.Armin van Buuren - Intricacy 7:07 something like rush hour, so its a good energetic uplifter 9/10

not bad album, but too many voclas for my tatse, the best tracks are those intrumentals 7+/10


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