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Originally posted by elFreak rob hit the nail on the head with his interpretations of my words. I do not think sasha and digweed are talentless hacks, but being a dj is not that hard if you commit to praticing.Anyone on this board could do it just as good if they invested the time into the craft. Would you take a picture with a resident dj if he rocked just as hard? If he played the exact same set as them, and nailed it everyone would say sasha and digweed's was better. Baaaa baaaa sheep. I like dj's but i don't put the pussy on a pedestal.

This, too.

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Originally posted by idoru

^ truth

people who get upset or feel disappointed when djs (or any public figures) reject their groupie overtures need to remember the initial reason they went to the club/attended the concert/saw the movie in the first place -- chances are it wasn't to act like a teenage girl.

but,

when these same public figures tell fans to fuck off, they are in fact acting like assholes. while their responsibilities begin and end with providing a quality set, there is such a thing as courtesy toward the mooks keeping you in business.

it's one thing bothering someone in the booth, but if some gimp who bought your cd and came to your gig wants a quick pic/autograph before or after, it'd be nice if they obliged.

you pay to go to the strippers, it would be nice if they obliged a BJ but that's not going to happen, you saw the girl take her clothes off and that's what you get

you get what you pay for

and in the dj's case, it's a quality set of good music

if they are able to hang out for a little after the set, great, just don't expect it

like i said earlier, schedules are hectic, they have places to go and the plane leaves when it's supposed to regardless of if your hero is on it or not

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Originally posted by Konijn it's one thing bothering someone in the booth, but if some gimp who bought your cd and came to your gig wants a quick pic/autograph before or after, it'd be nice if they obliged.

I agree, but I don't expect that effort of them.

good find on the beatportal article mate. you let us all know whats up. i saw them at coachella about a month ago...they honestly riped it up. it was in the top 5 sets ive ever seen.

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Originally posted by elFreak rob hit the nail on the head with his interpretations of my words. I do not think sasha and digweed are talentless hacks, but being a dj is not that hard if you commit to praticing.Anyone on this board could do it just as good if they invested the time into the craft.Would you take a picture with a resident dj if he rocked just as hard? If he played the exact same set as them, and nailed it everyone would say sasha and digweed's was better. Baaaa baaaa sheep. I like dj's but i don't put the pussy on a pedestal.

This is bullshit, like pretty much everything ive read from you. Sasha and Digweed didn't snap their fingers and become the worshipped DJ legends they are today. They've done their time to get where they are, entertained millions of people and have gained a following along the way because people have walked away from their gigs happy. And they've continuously evolved when it was time to change their sound, with many following their path.

Think about it, they've earned their recognition in a rather low publicity driven music genre. Its purely talent driven, there isnt much of a marketing or hype machine behind these artists, most DJ's have to bust their own backs to build their empire. 15 years of hard work will get you far in an industry where being a notch above the rest gets you recognized.

Talented EDM artists arent born through the board room meeting drawing boards, with the big question "what will sell today? what image can we build Joe Schmoe with the funky hair or funky gear sitting in the next room?" Thats what goes on in majority of rock, pop, and hip hop act assembly lines, to get where they are. Many of which receive the same worship and idolism with very little success and effort. Sure anyone can probably DJ with today's technology, but that doesnt mean you will get gigs, nor does it mean you will become the next Sasha or Digweed or even James Zabiela. Think about it some more, if everyone could commit time to practicing the DJ craft, then logically does that not proportionally raise the bar, by having more runners in the marathon for the same sized prize? Not to mention the growing need of a few hit productions in order to get some attention from promoters that need to see your name is out there already to take the investment of signing you to play at their club, versus DJ's that are fighting for elbow room against hundreds of similarly talented DJ's who have no production talents.

deadmau5

the fact is that most people who worship the ground sasha and digweed walk on had no clue who they were when the were ground breaking and doing things not many others were. They like them for the same reason noobs start with armin and tiesto. They are accessible and easily know. Dj's are dj's he doesn't twist te knobs any differently then the next jackass, and to worship someone for that is wrong.

fag.

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Originally posted by elFreak deadmau5 the fact is that most people who worship the ground sasha and digweed walk on had no clue who they were when the were ground breaking and doing things not many others were. They like them for the same reason noobs start with armin and tiesto. They are accessible and easily know. Dj's are dj's he doesn't twist te knobs any differently then the next jackass, and to worship someone for that is wrong. fag.

What are you on about, and who are you replying to?

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Originally posted by elFreak Dj's are dj's he doesn't twist te knobs any differently then the next jackass, and to worship someone for that is wrong.

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Originally posted by Clovis

I believe in that myself, I dont think anyone should worship anyone at all, unless its someone that saves your life or improves your life. Idolatry is a sin. But as surveyors of EDM music, and patrons of the clubs, it is very reasonable to respect DJ's like Sasha and Digweed. And thats all it should be, a respect.

That said I dont think its hard to understand why fans "worship" DJ's like Sasha & Digweed though. First of all, most of the worshippers are intoxicated, second Sashweed give their crowds a good time with good music, third the placement of the DJ Booth is usually higher than the crowd, on a pedastle of sorts, in which the human psyche translates the object into something greater than themselves. These factors result in the natural "worship" of DJ's. On message forums where people are less intoxicated, not dancing around or having a good time like they would at a venue, and not sitting below the DJ, that type of worship is minimal.

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Originally posted by LionsLair On message forums where people are less intoxicated, not dancing around or having a good time like they would at a venue, and not sitting below the DJ, that type of worship is minimal .

LOL PUN LOL

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Originally posted by elFreak Dj's are dj's he doesn't twist te knobs any differently then the next jackass, and to worship someone for that is wrong.

Really?

So you'd prefer to go and see Lindsay Lohan DJ than Sasha and Digweed?

She doesn't twist the knobs any differently, I promise; she's just the same as them.

People worship good DJs because they're good at what they do, just like people worship tennis players or race car drivers for being the best at what they do.

Whether or not it's right is another question.

Why would you go to the gig wanting to see him use the maven, wtf kind of reason is that?

And what do you mean he wasn't using it much, it's what he uses to mix so I think you're just a pilled out tard and Sasha probably told you to fuck off because you motor mouthed some nonsense at him while he was trying to go take a shit.

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Originally posted by LionsLair I believe in that myself, I dont think anyone should worship anyone at all, unless its someone that saves your life or improves your life. Idolatry is a sin. But as surveyors of EDM music, and patrons of the clubs, it is very reasonable to respect DJ's like Sasha and Digweed. And thats all it should be, a respect. That said I dont think its hard to understand why fans "worship" DJ's like Sasha & Digweed though. First of all, most of the worshippers are intoxicated, second Sashweed give their crowds a good time with good music, third the placement of the DJ Booth is usually higher than the crowd, on a pedastle of sorts, in which the human psyche translates the object into something greater than themselves. These factors result in the natural "worship" of DJ's. On message forums where people are less intoxicated, not dancing around or having a good time like they would at a venue, and not sitting below the DJ, that type of worship is minimal.

Shut up you fucking basket case.

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Originally posted by elFreak the fact is that most people who worship the ground sasha and digweed walk on had no clue who they were when the were ground breaking and doing things not many others were. They like them for the same reason noobs start with armin and tiesto. They are accessible and easily know. Dj's are dj's he doesn't twist te knobs any differently then the next jackass, and to worship someone for that is wrong.

Exactly.

Honestly, put up a thick curtain around the booth, and people wouldn't be able to tell whether it was Sasha and Digweed or two other similarly skilled DJs -- lots of them exist, guys, whether you want to believe it or not -- playing similar tunes to whatever S&D were spinning at the time.

I've had lots of fun hearing both of them play, and if I got a chance I'd certainly thank them for a great night, but I'm not going to go out and mob them fanboy style or expect them to answer my questions. That's silly.

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Originally posted by Alex Why would you go to the gig wanting to see him use the maven, wtf kind of reason is that? And what do you mean he wasn't using it much, it's what he uses to mix so I think you're just a pilled out tard and Sasha probably told you to fuck off because you motor mouthed some nonsense at him while he was trying to go take a shit.

Well I've been using Ableton for quite some time now and I KNOW (that is because I am inherently more knowledgeable than you) that he definitely did not use the Maven at its deserved potential.

Tell what the fuck is the point in having the most unique and expensive MIDI controller in the world just to bust out and technically speaking do the same thing that could have been done with a �140 Edirol keyboard?

Huh huh? Tell me...

Clear the crap out of your eyes so you can see that you're full of it.

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Originally posted by Alex Shut up you fucking basket case.

Why post if thats all you can think up. Moron.

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Originally posted by LionsLair Why post if thats all you can think up. Moron.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Exactly. Honestly, put up a thick curtain around the booth, and people wouldn't be able to tell whether it was Sasha and Digweed or two other similarly skilled DJs -- lots of them exist, guys, whether you want to believe it or not -- playing similar tunes to whatever S&D were spinning at the time.

Some guy did that in the... disco days? If I recall correctly, he was like the only white & straight person in the club and people refused to dance and threw shit at him. After a couple nights of this, he put up a curtain, played a wicked set, and then took down the curtain close to the end of the set... people went nuts and loved him ever since. Too fairy tale? It's in this book (google couldn't find the exact page)

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Originally posted by ponsshin Well I've been using Ableton for quite some time now and I KNOW (that is because I am inherently more knowledgeable than you) that he definitely did not use the Maven at its deserved potential. Tell what the fuck is the point in having the most unique and expensive MIDI controller in the world just to bust out and technically speaking do the same thing that could have been done with a �140 Edirol keyboard? Huh huh? Tell me... Clear the crap out of your eyes so you can see that you're full of it.

Who gives a shit, Mr. Knowledgeable? The set is prearranged anyway (FAIL imho)

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Exactly. Honestly, put up a thick curtain around the booth, and people wouldn't be able to tell whether it was Sasha and Digweed or two other similarly skilled DJs -- lots of them exist, guys, whether you want to believe it or not -- playing similar tunes to whatever S&D were spinning at the time. I've had lots of fun hearing both of them play, and if I got a chance I'd certainly thank them for a great night, but I'm not going to go out and mob them fanboy style or expect them to answer my questions. That's silly.

Really? You can't stick a curtain around a DJ and tell me its Danny Howells if its not DH. You cant do it for Danny Tenaglia or Carl Cox, and quite a few of other talented DJ's. Especially if I were to follow those DJ's like those who "worship" them do. But surely any artist can be replaced with another artist, you cant really juxtapose as equals but you can enjoy their work equally, subjectively. The difference layer is that Sashweed have built their following overtime, it wasnt by simple twiddling of knobs like some here are describing what they have done to get where they are. Some of you guys need to respect the talent behind their success, they dont have people scavenging the internet for the tracks they've played for nothing, when those same people can be just twiddling knobs and paving their own way?

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Originally posted by LionsLair Some of you guys need to respect the talent behind their success, they dont have people scavenging the internet for the tracks they've played for nothing, when those same people can be just twiddling knobs and paving their own way?

Well, I would hope that they're "scavenging the Internet" for those tracks because of the quality of the track itself -- which has precisely nothing to do with Sasha or Digweed unless it's one of their own productions -- not simply because their favorite DJ played it.

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Originally posted by ponsshin Well I've been using Ableton for quite some time now and I KNOW (that is because I am inherently more knowledgeable than you) that he definitely did not use the Maven at its deserved potential. Tell what the fuck is the point in having the most unique and expensive MIDI controller in the world just to bust out and technically speaking do the same thing that could have been done with a �140 Edirol keyboard? Huh huh? Tell me... Clear the crap out of your eyes so you can see that you're full of it.

Actually I use Ableton too, and based on the nonsense you've posted so far, I imagine you're still at the "What's a tempo" phase.

So please, spare me the "why doesn't he use it to it's potential" rubbish. It's a fucking piece of plastic like all other MIDI controllers, you slut.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Well, I would hope that they're "scavenging the Internet" for those tracks because of the quality of the track itself -- which has precisely nothing to do with Sasha or Digweed unless it's one of their own productions -- not simply because their favorite DJ played it.

And what about the priceless taste that went into choosing the tracks? Thats half the craft isnt it? Who cares about who made it, thousands of people make music (including myself), and there are hundreds of thousands of tracks to choose from. The worshippers scavenge for the tracks because S&D do well at picking great tracks out of that sky high heap of tracks. Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.

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