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Originally posted by jennypie God who cares? Just shut the fuck up now, fags.

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I see you're partying it up with barbina

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Again - great, he laughed. I probably would too. Stress does that kind of thing to you. But why call the twitching of his body funny, steal a personal effect from an individual he just killed, and then use that object to tell stories at the bar? You think that's normal as well, or are you still on about the laughing?

Exactly.

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Originally posted by nchs09 Exactly.

A lot of judging going on here from people who haven't even been close to that situation. Or dealt with it afterwards.

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Originally posted by Dervish Taking a watch..... yep never happened in war ever taking trophies.

Great argument .. That makes about everything anyone has ever done okay to do.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I think stealing the watch and calling the twitching body "pretty funny" were out of line.

+1

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Originally posted by Dervish A lot of judging going on here from people who haven't even been close to that situation. Or dealt with it afterwards.

It seems like you didn't get it, we said it's aight to laugh, stress does that to you, but then, find it funny later on, that is weird to say the least, definitely belongs to this thread.

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Originally posted by Dervish A lot of judging going on here from people who haven't even been close to that situation. Or dealt with it afterwards.

I dont want to be in that situation, so i dont put myself in the position that could put me in it.

What you're all ignoring is that he didn't say "It was pretty funny at the time" or a paraphrase thereof, but rather "It was pretty funny". Perhaps its just clumsy wording, but it made it sound like the sight was inherently funny to him, irrelevant of context.

As i said it doesn't even need to be "the situation" to be stressful. Just telling people about it.

As I said in the example I gave I couldn't tell my mate (BEST mate about the problems I had without laughing to make it seem more trivial, like I didn't care).

He's (I think) just giving us his 'easy to deal with' (for him) macho version where he didn't shit himself, didn't feel like crying, didn't want to go home.

When you're in that point and need to just cut off part off emotions, that is cut off parts of yourself, a different you emerges at that moment. 'this isn't real it's not happening'

And taking a watch as a souvenir in front of your mates to show you're still you (use this "still you" i.e. someone who robs dead people, comment as you will but I know what I mean and it's not that) and not some scared guy to show that you're 'just normal'.

In a situation that is about as far from normal as possible who can judge that? I mean can you last months and years dealing with it as reality?

If you were for example working in the ovens in Auschwitz (Oswiecim)shoveling bodies in, could you deal with that if you dealt with the reality or would you create a whole new one?

Where taking a watch reinforced the false reality you created which says that you are in a "normal" situation and should deal with it and not crack?

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Originally posted by Dervish A lot of judging going on here from people who haven't even been close to that situation. Or dealt with it afterwards.

People who make the choice to put themselves in such positions are still responsible for making ethical decisions IMO. Using an awful experience to excuse a poor decision doesn't cut it, and really sets an absurd precedent for every other situation in life.

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Originally posted by Lira My sister fell on my head when we I was 5 and I bit my tongue... I don't remember how bad it was, but it needed stitches (is this how you say it?). Obviously, I can't see the scar, but some friends of mine claim to have seen it. I used to drink milk off baby bottles until I was 9 years old, and I still drink 1 litre of milk every day I'm a vegetarian because my body doesn't seem to handle meat very well.

You had stitches in your tongue???

That is so weird... When I was about 9 I nearly took my tongue off with my teeth (hanging on literally by threads of flesh on either side *ew*) and they said that they cannot put stitches in a tongue.



They just left it to heal on its own.... I can see the scar

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Originally posted by Theresa People who make the choice to put themselves in such positions are still responsible for making ethical decisions IMO. Using an awful experience to excuse a poor decision doesn't cut it, and really sets an absurd precedent for every other situation in life.

What a lot of bullshit. Soliders are human beings in often inhuman situations. Ok they joined up in many cases to escape a world of shit at home.

They did not join up to die. The way you say it anytime a guy dies it's his own fault?

Otherwise how is developing mental issues (an involuntary situation) any different?

You're applying perfect world idealism to an imperfect world.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong a solider is a professional and should act as such. But to me taking a trophy isn't like killing unarmed people. It's like making downloading mp3s the same as murder... quite literally.

I found out my dad is black when I turned 15.
We went to a family reunion...
..and everyone there had a full on Jerry Curl.

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Originally posted by Dervish What a lot of bullshit. Soliders are human beings in often inhuman situations. Ok they joined up in many cases to escape a world of shit at home. They did not join up to die. The way you say it anytime a guy dies it's his own fault? Otherwise how is developing mental issues (an involuntary situation) any different? You're applying perfect world idealism to an imperfect world.

Uhh... what? I said that people in horrible situations should not use that as an excuse to make unethical decisions. I have no idea where dying came in

You said:

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People who make the choice to put themselves in such positions are still responsible for making ethical decisions

which infers that because they decided to be there that they should deal with it like it is a normal job.

What aside from taking a watch is unethical about what happened? Taking a worthless watch? (and to me that is only marginally unethical, it wasn't a gold brick marked "for the children" was it?)

I contracted anal warts by wiping my butt

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Originally posted by Dervish You said: which infers that because they decided to be there that they should deal with it like it is a normal job. What aside from taking a watch is unethical about what happened? Taking a worthless watch? (and to me that is only marginally unethical, it wasn't a gold brick marked "for the children" was it?)

Stealing is stealing. No matter if its a child's bike or a watch or a folder with papers in it.

Lets put it this way what is the MOST stressful situation you have been in, in your entire life? The one that nearly broke you?

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Originally posted by Dervish You said: which infers that because they decided to be there that they should deal with it like it is a normal job.

You've been inferring an awful lot in this thread.

To clarify, Theresa said that just because you're in a shit situation doesn't mean ethics go out the window.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov You've been inferring an awful lot in this thread. To clarify, Theresa said that just because you're in a shit situation doesn't mean ethics go out the window.

For example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prisoner_abuse

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Originally posted by nchs09 Stealing is stealing. No matter if its a child's bike or a watch or a folder with papers in it.

Downloading mp3s is the same as stealing someones life savings?

This is getting boring.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov You've been inferring an awful lot in this thread. To clarify, Theresa said that just because you're in a shit situation doesn't mean ethics go out the window.

And yet you contest none of it.

Taking a watch is ethics going out of the window? It's not like he rid the corpse and put it on youtube!

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Originally posted by Dervish Lets put it this way what is the MOST stressful situation you have been in, in your entire life? The one that nearly broke you?

It doesnt matter..... (and i dont think i have ever been in such a stressful situation) and it would not excuse me from stealing and bragging about it.

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Originally posted by Dervish Downloading mp3s is the same as stealing someones life savings? This is getting boring.

Technically it is the same, taking something that is not yours.

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Originally posted by Dervish You said: People who make the choice to put themselves in such positions are still responsible for making ethical decisions which infers that because they decided to be there that they should deal with it like it is a normal job. What aside from taking a watch is unethical about what happened? Taking a worthless watch? (and to me that is only marginally unethical, it wasn't a gold brick marked "for the children" was it?)

AKA

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Originally posted by RandomGirl people in horrible situations should not use that as an excuse to make unethical decisions.

Just reworded.

OR

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov To clarify, Theresa said that just because you're in a shit situation doesn't mean ethics go out the window.

How do you know that the man he killed did not have a wife, children or friends? Perhaps his wife gave him that watch on their anniversary? Maybe he had it on as a reminder of his loved ones. Maybe it was just a piece of shit watch. Who the frig knows, and really, who cares? The point is:

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Originally posted by nchs09 Stealing is stealing. No matter if its a child's bike or a watch or a folder with papers in it.

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Originally posted by Dervish Lets put it this way what is the MOST stressful situation you have been in, in your entire life? The one that nearly broke you?

Those situations are the ones that define us as people and determine our character. So to use that as a copout for doing unethical things says to me that the person doing it is not very honorable/has weak character.

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