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Why do people in this scene feel the need to attribute a ranking system to their musicians?

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Originally posted by Skipper ^^ Who would you consider a better dj then?

its all a matter of perception

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Originally posted by SpeedJat I even heard a crowd chant "Boring" during his performance.

hahaha, this should happen more often! not talking about with Hawtin specifically, but any DJ who is just boring the shit out of a crowd, especially when its after midnight!

Rene Amesz @ FW like a month ago definitely would have been an appropriate time for a good 'boring' chant!

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Why do people in this scene feel the need to attribute a ranking system to their musicians?

Yeah this is a good point, every DJ is different, why do we have to consider one better than another? plus, its all a matter of personal preference anyways, its not like there is a set of evaluation criteria where you can give of the a report card to judge their performance as a DJ.

Hawtin can be doing all these fancy things with his computer programs and electronic devices but if he isnt playing sets that people enjoy hearing, how can he be considered the Best DJ? Not saying this is the case, I am just saying the fact that he is technologically advanced doesnt automatically make him the best DJ.

Plus there are so many different sub-genres of EDM, how can you say the best Trance DJ is the Best DJ in the world for all genres, for example....

Conclusion: There is no #1 DJ! Lots of different DJs have unique characteristics to offer!

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Why do people in this scene feel the need to attribute a ranking system to their musicians?

But without a ranking system how do I know what society tells me is good?

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced But without a ranking system how do I know what society tells me is good?

lol.. you dont.. everyones different. go out and see what YOU like . you dont need to know what most people who have no life and sit on their computers and vote for this shit think.

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Originally posted by petro its all a matter of perception

and I'm asking what his perception is.

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Originally posted by Skipper Who would you consider a better dj then?

A DJ that keeps entertaining the crowds, and people enjoy his/her sets. I would say that AVB, Green Velvet, etc... and even Mark Oliver are better DJs. But I have to agree with this this comment the best:

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Originally posted by teufel-man Hawtin can be doing all these fancy things with his computer programs and electronic devices but if he isnt playing sets that people enjoy hearing, how can he be considered the Best DJ? Not saying this is the case, I am just saying the fact that he is technologically advanced doesnt automatically make him the best DJ. Plus there are so many different sub-genres of EDM, how can you say the best Trance DJ is the Best DJ in the world for all genres, for example.... Conclusion: There is no #1 DJ! Lots of different DJs have unique characteristics to offer!

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Originally posted by teufel-man hahaha, this should happen more often! not talking about with Hawtin specifically, but any DJ who is just boring the shit out of a crowd, especially when its after midnight!

A friend relayed a story that during Detroit's peak, there were so many quality DJs coming out of the city, that anyone who stepped up and stank up the decks would be subjected to mass "bomb shelter" positioning by the crowd, where everyone would sit down on the floor with their heads tucked between their legs and their arms covering their heads.

Harsh, but definitely separates the wheat from the chaffe!

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Originally posted by jonnystel lol.. you dont.. everyones different. go out and see what YOU like . you dont need to know what most people who have no life and sit on their computers and vote for this shit think.

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Originally posted by PivotTechno A friend relayed a story that during Detroit's peak, there were so many quality DJs coming out of the city, that anyone who stepped up and stank up the decks would be subjected to mass "bomb shelter" positioning by the crowd, where everyone would sit down on the floor with their heads tucked between their legs and their arms covering their heads. Harsh, but definitely separates the wheat from the chaffe!

its not that bad DJs are the ones playing boring sets.... a lot of the time there are fully capable DJs who just play really boring sets once in a while, well not boring, but rather something that probably would have been more appropriate 5 hours earlier in the night

its not like its hard to play a set with a decent amount of energy that most people would consider exciting. I am not saying DJs should be playing only bangers, but it just really pisses me off when DJs are playing their chill-out tunes during prime time. They seem to be playing to suit their own mood rather than the other 99% of the people-in-the-club's mood

richie is a good dj but a bad selecta. Sometimes he plays tunes (occasionally snatches some italobusiness or stereo seven plus record etc.) but he plays much more shit. i really despise his label and its affiliates (magda, houle, audion etc). weird, glitchy, crooked melodies, sometimes distorted percs and almost no bass. That is not the right kind of minimal techno.

proper kind (clean groovy banging) example levan - the roulette (leeks remix):


now to compare a typical minus track - a hit too, Marc Houle - Selection (weird noises, shit bass etc):


or for example comparison live (cause obviously sounds different live):
magda playing minus kinda stuff (lets go to sleep):


some guy dropping kanios recent bomb techno tourettes (bang):


morale: many djs can dj well, but it is usless if they do not play tunes. Richie hawtin the best dj in the world?, r u fucking kidding?

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I am not saying DJs should be playing only bangers

primetime djs should play only bangers (applies to techno, minimal etc.), its not like your warming the crowd up at that point.

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Originally posted by Vanos some guy

ok I agree, "some guy" is far superior to Magda lol

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Originally posted by Vanos Richie hawtin the best dj in the world?, r u fucking kidding?

yup, the first 4 pages of people in this thread are in fact... kidding! la la la

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Originally posted by teufel-man its not like its hard to play a set with a decent amount of energy that most people would consider exciting

lol @ teufel-man teaching Richie Hawtin how to DJ...

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Originally posted by SpeedJat A DJ that keeps entertaining the crowds, and people enjoy his/her sets. I would say that AVB, Green Velvet, etc... and even Mark Oliver are better DJs.

haha Mark would probably bitchslap you for saying that...

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yup, the first 4 pages of people in this thread are in fact... kidding! la la la

thats what I was thinking! oh those jokers, say stuff....

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Originally posted by Vanos primetime djs should play only bangers (applies to techno, minimal etc.), its not like your warming the crowd up at that point.

god. i'd get bored so fast

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god. i'd get bored so fast

why? in each banger there is mix up parts. Enough time to rest, there is no need to hear 5 sleeping or cheese tunes in between 2 proper dancing ones.

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Originally posted by Vanos why? in each banger there is mix up parts. Enough time to rest, there is no need to hear 5 sleeping or cheese tunes in between 2 proper dancing ones.

clearly your expectations and mine differ. a lot

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Originally posted by jon jon lol @ teufel-man teaching Richie Hawtin how to DJ...

lol I wasnt referring to Hawtin in that post... let alone teaching him how to DJ, I was speaking in general about DJs playing slow ass boring music at 3am

Although I will admit he probably does fall into that category once in a while...

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced But without a ranking system how do I know what society tells me is good?

Iknowrite?


Srsly though, you never hear of polls for the Number One Band in the World by Blender Magazine.

Do people realize the scope of djs there are out there? What quantifies number one? Is it an amalgamate of mixing ability, music taste, world-wide affect and draw, and history within a certain phylum of the scene? If so, who set up those parameters? How come some guy who is in his room who just collects the hell out of some music and throws down some sort of epic set every few nights just for the love of music itself any less "number one" than Richie and his M_nus hipsters doing coke and manhugging Ricardo behind a pile of cords and a crowd of sweating ketamine gyrators?

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Iknowrite? Srsly though, you never hear of polls for the Number One Band in the World by Blender Magazine. Do people realize the scope of djs there are out there? What quantifies number one? Is it an amalgamate of mixing ability, music taste, world-wide affect and draw, and history within a certain phylum of the scene? If so, who set up those parameters? How come some guy who is in his room who just collects the hell out of some music and throws down some sort of epic set every few nights just for the love of music itself any less "number one" than Richie and his M_nus hipsters doing coke and manhugging Ricardo behind a pile of cords and a crowd of sweating ketamine gyrators?

when you really think about it....EDM is really the only music where people go to see the DJ. You don't see many people going to the country bar because DJ Redneck is spinning. We really are an ass backwards group of people.

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Originally posted by jon jon so weird you say that as I thought the opposite when watching the video... well not that he has a german accent but it fully sounds (to me) like he has been speaking english with germans for the last 5 years lol

it was just different then what i was expecing to hear. i was expectng a hardcore weird accent not making sense and googly eyes going all over the place.

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Originally posted by petro i believe the correct term is "techno fags"

lol.

don't want to be putting a bad image onto the wonderful gays.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced when you really think about it....EDM is really the only music where people go to see the DJ. You don't see many people going to the country bar because DJ Redneck is spinning. We really are an ass backwards group of people.

Not really true. People go to see a certain band all the time. People go to see certain artists all the time. There are still the people that will frequent a bar where some random band is playing, but it happens on either side that people go out to see a particular artist. They may even state that a certain artist is "the best". But it seems far more prevalent in EDM, and it seems that only in EDM is there a magazine that backs this notion.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Not really true. People go to see a certain band all the time. People go to see certain artists all the time. There are still the people that will frequent a bar where some random band is playing, but it happens on either side that people go out to see a particular artist. They may even state that a certain artist is "the best". But it seems far more prevalent in EDM, and it seems that only in EDM is there a magazine that backs this notion.

Bands and DJs are two very different things....if anything bands are more like producers....you go to see the band and their music. DJs are more like the cover bands out there and I don't know many cover bands that sell out a club like Guv.

If anything....we should be praising the producers more and the DJs less.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Iknowrite? Srsly though, you never hear of polls for the Number One Band in the World by Blender Magazine. Do people realize the scope of djs there are out there? What quantifies number one? Is it an amalgamate of mixing ability, music taste, world-wide affect and draw, and history within a certain phylum of the scene? If so, who set up those parameters? How come some guy who is in his room who just collects the hell out of some music and throws down some sort of epic set every few nights just for the love of music itself any less "number one" than Richie and his M_nus hipsters doing coke and manhugging Ricardo behind a pile of cords and a crowd of sweating ketamine gyrators?

haha, nice.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess lol. don't want to be putting a bad image onto the wonderful gays.

i wasn't referring to homosexuals lol

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