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Excellent article (IMO) written yesterday about the world's reaction:

SURREAL GAZA:

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The World Reacts I spent today reading accounts of Gaza�NY Times, AP, Reuters, etc. There are no terrorists, just militants. Not much about past rocket attacks on Israel- most everything on the crowded conditions of Gaza. Iranian aid is rarely elaborated on; stories about quiet Arab support for defanging Hamas are likewise rare; common is the buzz about protests in Europe. In reaction, I jotted down the following random thoughts: Gaza as Monte Carlo, perhaps Hong Kong, or is it to be Switzerland of the Mediterranean? Gaza is a sort of lab experiment in the Middle East. Recall for a minute: the Israelis withdrew en masse, a so-called "retreat" that reverberated all over the Middle East. The West supported free and open elections that gave Hamas their legitimacy, such as it was. Gaza is strategically placed on the Mediterranean with a prime shoreline. It borders Egypt the traditional center of the Arab world. Hundreds of millions of dollars of Middle-East oil money, and Western relief donations have poured into the tiny state. Israeli clearly wants no more of it, and would love to let Gaza alone to be Dubai. The Result? Hamas with its serial rocket attacks on Israel interprets all of the above not as an opportunity for prosperity, but as a stage one for the great accomplishment of its generation- the absolute destruction of the Jewish state. Its agenda is clear and unambiguous, and apparently shared by millions of elites in the West itself, without whose support Hamas could not exist. The common theme of Western press coverage is the misery of Gaza, never the misery of Gaza as a product of the garrison-state mentality of Hamas�s radical Islamic vows to wage perennial war against Israel. The Enablers Hamas counts on the fact that its own losses will be characterized as a "holocaust" and appear comparable in the Western media to something like Darfur or the slaughtering in Zimbabwe, or the usual carnage that we wake up to on the news. Take away Western press attention from Gaza, and Hamas is just another violent, illiberal regime that impoverishes its own people while seeking victim status in the West. Is that too harsh? I don�t think so. Again, if it were to call a one-year truce with Israel, seek normal relations with Egypt, and swear off Iranian-Hezbollah terrorist aid while it sought to rebuild infrastructure, ensure security, and recruit foreign capital, then there would be no more world attention, and its cadres of hooded youth would lack the pizzazz of "militants." Jenin Redux Meanwhile, we suffer through the Jenin reinvention of the rules of war: (1) proportionality: Hamas is allowed to keep trying to kill as many Jews as it can to "balance" those lost to far more lethal Israeli countermeasures. Rule I. War is a tit-for-tat game, where fairness is defined as killing no more than you lose. (2) Civilians and warriors: there is no such difference. Hamas's terrorists who shoot rockets against Israeli families burrow into their own civilian infrastructure. They are tragic innocents to the world when they are killed and heroes to their own if can they kill innocents Jews through their barrages. Rule II. The age of uniforms and battle lines is over, replaced by the civilian shield as the best mechanism of defense against Western mastery of traditional arms. (3) War that is lost on the battlefield can be won through the international media. The Palestinians have counted on six truths in the international arena (a. the world remains largely anti-Semitic; b. the world appreciates the strategic calculus that Arabs are numerous with oil; and Israel is tiny without it; c. Westerners fear Islamic terrorists, not the IDF; d. The West is prone to self-loathing, and romanticizes any who best capture the mantel of victimhood; the Palestinians have brilliantly reinvented themselves by claiming a status akin to women, gays, Hispanics, and blacks- fellow victims of rich white male Westerners; e. Any culture abroad whose hospitals Westerners would not like to be operated in are idealized; any who emulate Western technological supremacy are shunned. Rule III: Just copy any group that sets up shop on an American campus free speech area, and the resulting sympathy is worth a division. Incremental Victory The Hamas way of thinking is that it has constantly redefined losses to such an extent that 300+ killed are now dubbed a "Holocaust." Meanwhile the frequency and range of its rocketry are expanded and embedded into the "normalcy" of the Middle East. Hamas seeks to establish the principle that it can daily wear away the psyche of Israelis while carefully constraining Israeli responses. What a Westerner would call an Israeli "victory" (e.g., terrible destruction of Hamas infrastructure with far greater casualties inflicted than suffered), Hamas and others would call "progress" in a century-long war (e.g., the world now accepts that showering Israeli with rockets is not an act of war, and not deserving of serious retaliation). A final note: some of the most vicious anti-Israeli sentiment comes from Europe, especially countries like Spain and Greece. Yet I remember Morocco and Spain nearly shooting at each other in 2002 in a dispute over an uninhabited rock in the Mediterranean, and Greece goes ballistic every time Turkey customarily overflies Aegean airspace. Israel alone is not supposed to respond to rocket barrages; our conclusions can only be that the world deems it an illegitimate state worthy of destruction, and will allow its enemies to keep trying until they succeed (Why else would a British television station invite Ahmadinejad to answer the Queen's Christmas address- a thug who promised the destruction of Israel, is seeking the means to do it, and whose terrorists recently kidnapped British sailors?) Meanwhile we await "Gaza, Gaza"- the anguished documentary movie as hundreds of filmakers have no doubt already descended to offer us by spring a must see movie on every American university campus.

http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/surreal-gaza/

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Originally posted by CHRles Israel managed to kill one of Hamas's most notorious leaders today. He was shot down and killed...along with 2 of his 4 wives(!!!), as well as several of his children. Not that he really gave a crap about his kids anyway - he sent one of them on a suicide bombing mission back in 2001.

He is known for his support for suicide bombings. He was one of the managers and financier of the suicide bombing in the Ashdod port back in 2004 which killed 10 people. And like you said, he sent one of his sons on a suicide bombing mission.
The IDF dropped a bomb on his house which served as a weapons warehouse and a communication center. Prior to the bombing the IDF warned him and his family to leave the house, but they refused.
Also, the IDF bombed the biggest mosque in Gaza tonight believing it to be a weapon warehouse and a rocket launch site.

Hamas declared today a "day of wrath" towards Israel.... which is somehow different than any other day

Hamas now_plans major suicide attacks inside Israel. The group actually warned Muslims who are foreign citizens to leave Israel immediately: http://samsonblinded.org/news/hamas...lee-israel-5473

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Originally posted by tranquill Hamas now_plans major suicide attacks inside Israel. The group actually warned Muslims who are foreign citizens to leave Israel immediately: http://samsonblinded.org/news/hamas...lee-israel-5473

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Originally posted by Krypton Israel should expect more rockets, suicide bombers, and terrorism.

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Originally posted by Krypton

hamas should expect more missiles and dead palestinians. it's unfortuante both sides are so stubborn.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 hamas should expect more missiles and dead palestinians. it's unfortuante both sides are so stubborn.

word.

http://sderot.aish.com/SderotPetitions/15Seconds.php

900,000 people under missile attacks.
Some of you refuse to understand that IDF's intention is to hit Hamas terorrists and facilities, while Hamas is deliberatly launching missiles at civillians population. i agree its unfortunate that palestinian citizens are killed, but its inevitable. If you tell me, that when IDF makes phone calls to the houses (that are used as Qassam storages) asking them to evacuate perior to the attack is crude and unhuman then i dont know what to say..

The "organization" called Hamas is nothing less than a terorrist group.

Good day to all of you.

The real shame in this is that Hamas is still the only organization in Palestine willing to provide basic social services to its people - that's the reason Hamas surpassed the PLO or Fatah in the first place.

And ofcourse the atrocities continue today...


Earlier, Israel intensified air and artillery attacks on the territory.
In one raid, at least 13 people were killed when a missile struck a crowded mosque in Beit Lahiya, Palestinian medics said.
Witnesses said more than 200 people had been inside the Ibrahim al-Maqadna mosque for evening prayers when it was struck.
Palestinian medics and Hamas officials said they believed dozens were injured. At least one child was among the dead, they added.
Militants in Gaza meanwhile fired more rockets into southern Israel on Saturday, one of which hit the port of Ashdod, injuring two people.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7809959.stm

Those Israeli bastards probably haven't heard that there are laws (even) in war.

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Originally posted by epsilon1 http://sderot.aish.com/SderotPetitions/15Seconds.php 900,000 people under missile attacks. Some of you refuse to understand that IDF's intention is to hit Hamas terorrists and facilities, while Hamas is deliberatly launching missiles at civillians population. i agree its unfortunate that palestinian citizens are killed, but its inevitable. If you tell me, that when IDF makes phone calls to the houses (that are used as Qassam storages) asking them to evacuate perior to the attack is crude and unhuman then i dont know what to say.. The "organization" called Hamas is nothing less than a terorrist group. Good day to all of you.

Complete and utter nonsense. This "Operation Cast Iron" should really be called, "Operation Create More Terrorists".

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Originally posted by PETRAN And ofcourse the atrocities continue today... Earlier, Israel intensified air and artillery attacks on the territory. In one raid, at least 13 people were killed when a missile struck a crowded mosque in Beit Lahiya, Palestinian medics said. Witnesses said more than 200 people had been inside the Ibrahim al-Maqadna mosque for evening prayers when it was struck. Palestinian medics and Hamas officials said they believed dozens were injured. At least one child was among the dead, they added. Militants in Gaza meanwhile fired more rockets into southern Israel on Saturday, one of which hit the port of Ashdod, injuring two people. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7809959.stm Those Israeli bastards probably haven't heard that there are laws (even) in war.

Right ... and I guess Hamas has heard of these laws.

You might wanna check this: click and click.

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Originally posted by Krypton Complete and utter nonsense. This "Operation Cast Iron" should really be called, "Operation Create More Terrorists".

Nonsense?

From http://africa.reuters.com:

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By Nidal al-Mughrabi GAZA, Jan 3 (Reuters) - The Israeli air force is dropping thousands of leaflets over Gaza warning people to leave their homes before targeted bombing raids. In the past few days of their air offensive on Gaza, Israeli forces have zeroed in on the houses Hamas leaders and militants. The polite warning from the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) is addressed to "residents of the area". "Because of the terrorist actions carried by some terrorist figures out of the area of residence against the state of Israel, the IDF was forced to immediately respond and act inside your area of residence," it says. "For your own safety you are required to leave the area immediately." As well as the leaflets, the Israeli military has called local numbers with an automated warning message giving residents several minutes' grace to flee. As new air strikes on Saturday boomed over Gaza, leaflets dropped over the area scared many residents, witnesses said. Many families have fled, mostly to friends and relatives in what they hope are safer districts, but some remained defiant.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Those Israeli bastards probably haven't heard that there are laws (even) in war.

When it comes to war most laws are thrown out the window, but in this case no law is broken - mosques are a legitimate target if they house Hamas weapons, and shelter Hamas terrorists.
Again, the blame rests solely on Hamas.

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Originally posted by PETRAN And ofcourse the atrocities continue today... Earlier, Israel intensified air and artillery attacks on the territory. In one raid, at least 13 people were killed when a missile struck a crowded mosque in Beit Lahiya, Palestinian medics said. Witnesses said more than 200 people had been inside the Ibrahim al-Maqadna mosque for evening prayers when it was struck. Palestinian medics and Hamas officials said they believed dozens were injured. At least one child was among the dead, they added. Militants in Gaza meanwhile fired more rockets into southern Israel on Saturday, one of which hit the port of Ashdod, injuring two people. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7809959.stm Those Israeli bastards probably haven't heard that there are laws (even) in war.

You obviously are missing something from your frame of reference.
Here, let me show you...




/are there still people out there that don't understand the picture?

the ground assault has begun. yuck

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Originally posted by buitre Nonsense? From http://africa.reuters.com:

Oh thank you. That gives them such a warm and fuzzy feeling inside doesn't it? Leave your home because we're about to bomb the fuck out of it. Disgusting...

And yes, NONSENSE! This invasion will come and go, and guess what? Israel still won't have peace. You think you can bomb the Palestinians into submission?

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Originally posted by CHRles When it comes to war most laws are thrown out the window, but in this case no law is broken - mosques are a legitimate target if they house Hamas weapons, and shelter Hamas terrorists. Again, the blame rests solely on Hamas.

post me an official link that proves that those mosques housed rockets. Those jewtastic videos posted before say nothing. There was some evidence that the mosque bombarded on wednesday housed some rockets because some istraeli soldiers observed one rocket launched from a place near the mosque. As you understand there is no legitimate scientific evidence that ALL of those mosques housed weapons except for some loose intelligence work, intuitive hypotheses and gut assumptions. Even in the extreme case that all those mosques housed weapons, Israel-being the most advanced of the two-should make a more carefull plan about the alleviation of targets


The massive Israeli bombardment of targets in Gaza has killed at least 345 people, including 57 civilians, according to medics and UN figures.


If Istraeli wants to do a war, at least do a clean war. Just because Hamas doesn't have the power and plays a "dirty" semi-terrorist kind of war doesn't mean that the technologically advanced Israel should respond in an even more dirty way. If they are supposed to be the "civilised", "superior" "non-terrorists" and they have the technology and the means, they should accomplish their mission with the least violence possible. It rather seems that they bomb semi-blindly with no care about civilians.Its not like any invading army can blindly kill whoever happens to be found in front of its menacing march. Those were the f*cking dark medieval times.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r You obviously are missing something from your frame of reference. Here, let me show you... /are there still people out there that don't understand the picture?

Great piece of disgusting Zionist propaganda...

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Originally posted by Q5echo the ground assault has begun. yuck

Yeah, I have a feeling this isn't going to end well.

There is something especially nauseating about the latest Middle East war � scenes of worldwide Islamic protests with photos of Jews as apes, protesters (in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida of all places!) screaming about nuking Israel and putting Jews in ovens, parades of children dressed up with suicide vests and fake rockets, near constant anti-Semitic vicious sloganeering, Gaza mosques stuffed with rockets to be used against civilians � all to be collated with creepy Hamas rhetoric about the annihilation of Israel. This is the world in which we now live.

Almost no other issue in recent memory has illustrated the moral bankruptcy of much of the international community. Hamas has no pretensions, like the PA, of being a governing authority; it used violence to rout the PA and then bragged that its charter pledging the destruction of Israel remained unchanged. Israel evacuated Gaza; Gazans in response looted their own infrastructure, alienated both the PA and Egypt,and then sent off more than 6,000 rockets against Israeli civilians, while eagerly becoming a terrorist puppet of theocratic Iran.

Nothing could be more clear: either the fact that a constitutional republic was trying to avoid civilian casualties while a terrorist organization was intent on killing Jewish civilians as it used its own citizens as shields to protect mostly young male terrorists; or the world's craven reaction to all this.

Again all very creepy � the stuff of Tolkien's Mordor. It is now clear that the so-called and much praised "international community," the hallowed U.N., the revered EU, all pretty much are indifferent to the survival of a democratic Israel, or are actively supportive of its terrorist Hamas enemy. Only the U.S. (for now) stands by a constitutional state in its war against a murderous terrorist clique, with annhilation its aim and religous fascism its creed.

Victor Davis Hanson

I say glass'm all. Both are acting like groups of worthless sub-humans. If they want to join the world stage and be respected then they need to both stop being barbarians or the world should take care of this cancer before it really destroys us all.

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Originally posted by Q5echo There is something especially nauseating about the latest Middle East war � scenes of worldwide Islamic protests with photos of Jews as apes, protesters (in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida of all places!) screaming about nuking Israel and putting Jews in ovens, parades of children dressed up with suicide vests and fake rockets, near constant anti-Semitic vicious sloganeering, Gaza mosques stuffed with rockets to be used against civilians � all to be collated with creepy Hamas rhetoric about the annihilation of Israel. This is the world in which we now live. Almost no other issue in recent memory has illustrated the moral bankruptcy of much of the international community. Hamas has no pretensions, like the PA, of being a governing authority; it used violence to rout the PA and then bragged that its charter pledging the destruction of Israel remained unchanged. Israel evacuated Gaza; Gazans in response looted their own infrastructure, alienated both the PA and Egypt,and then sent off more than 6,000 rockets against Israeli civilians, while eagerly becoming a terrorist puppet of theocratic Iran. Nothing could be more clear: either the fact that a constitutional republic was trying to avoid civilian casualties while a terrorist organization was intent on killing Jewish civilians as it used its own citizens as shields to protect mostly young male terrorists; or the world's craven reaction to all this. Again all very creepy � the stuff of Tolkien's Mordor. It is now clear that the so-called and much praised "international community," the hallowed U.N., the revered EU, all pretty much are indifferent to the survival of a democratic Israel, or are actively supportive of its terrorist Hamas enemy. Only the U.S. (for now) stands by a constitutional state in its war against a murderous terrorist clique, with annhilation its aim and religous fascism its creed. Victor Davis Hanson

What a BUNCH OF BULLSHIT haha.



"Only (God's) America, the country that annhilation (there is a bloody "i" here) is never its aim and religious fascism never its creed"


Only The truly democratic America famous for doing things "JUST for the sake of democracy"


haha

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I say glass'm all. Both are acting like groups of worthless sub-humans. If they want to join the world stage and be respected then they need to both stop being barbarians or the world should take care of this cancer before it really destroys us all.

I know it causes anger but if you think in those agressive terms you could end-up becoming like the ones you hate. Some moderate constructive anger is good lol

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Originally posted by Krypton Complete and utter nonsense. This "Operation Cast Iron" should really be called, "Operation Create More Terrorists".

nothing informative from you.

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