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but if you aim at a bird or deer and you miss, it tends to get away, in some cases you can fire a second time and get lucky.

Theres not much skill or sense of satisfaction by pumping god knows how many rounds into the air with that thing and hopefully clipping something.


this does the job.




i've used something like this to shoot clays.

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan I believe that the right permits should be given to people for example, farmers, in handling certain types of hunting weapons, shotguns or rifles. I just don't see the point in having a gun that you mow down an entire classroom without having to reload. They're not normally used in a hunting situation. (Like that massive shotgun thing up there).

That shotgun isn't for hunting game, its for shooting any dipshit who decides its a good idea to break into my house. I'm a law abiding citizen, I'm not going to be mowing down any classrooms full of kids so why shouldn't I be able to own those weapons. In fact, if someone did decide they were going to forcefully enter my neighbor's house I'd be more than able to assist them if they were unarmed. Unless you decide that you want to enter my home and threaten me or my family you would never have the business end of one of those weapons aimed at you.

Laws restricting me from owning "a gun that you mow down an entire classroom" with wouldn't even prevent such a crime. I have had multiple opportunities to purchase more powerful weapons than I have illegally, I just chose not to. In fact, a few years ago I could have purchased a fully automatic belt fed weapon illegally from a guy, all he wanted was $1,000 no questions asked. That weapon is extreamly restricted here in the US and I could have bought it easier than my shotgun. Shit, I at least had to sign papers for that. Gun laws don't protect you, all they do is prevent people who aren't going to break the law anyway from owning a gun. If I was planning to break the law and mow down a classroom I certainly wouldn't have any problem violating a firearms law that restricted me from purchasing a particular type of weapon now would I?

the fact that you think that your family is safer by having a deadly weapon in the home is so backwards. isn't that obvious to you?

Why is this such an alien concept to you? From the spear in the cave to the modern firearm in the home, man has always had tools to protect themselves and their property from others. Have you ever heard the saying "If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns." ?

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Originally posted by shadow_419 Why is this such an alien concept to you? From the spear in the cave to the modern firearm in the home, man has always had tools to protect themselves and their property from others. Have you ever heard the saying "If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns." ?

i love how shallow the arguments can get in these debates.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk To own a gun here, you need to be either a cop, in private security, in the armed forces, or a livestock farmer. That's it, as far as I'm aware.

im not an expert in QLD law, but i would hazard a guess that this isnt quite true. you need to show that you have a valid reason for owning/operating a firearm, but that valid reason might be for things like recreational shooting. ive been shooting with friends who have valid licenses and they are none of the above.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN im not an expert in QLD law, but i would hazard a guess that this isnt quite true. you need to show that you have a valid reason for owning/operating a firearm, but that valid reason might be for things like recreational shooting. ive been shooting with friends who have valid licenses and they are none of the above.

Turns out you're right. Just found these points on the police website:

1 Persons wishing to possess or use a weapon must have a licence (there are some exceptions).
2 A licence may be issued to an individual or a body.
3 You must have a genuine reason to own a weapon - this includes being a member of a shooting club, being a recreational shooter, being a collector or having an occupational requirement.
4 Persons applying for a licence or for a licence of another category of weapon (except in special circumstances) are required to complete a weapons safety course.
5 You must have secure storage for your weapons.
6 Weapons must be registered to a licence. Depending on the licence type, there maybe restrictions on the number of weapons you can own (i.e. under collector heirloom licence and the first year of a concealable sports/target shooters licence).
7 You may also have to provide proof of need that supports your reason to acquire a firearm during the Permit to Acquire process. Registering new weapons to your licence will usually incur a one-off fee for each firearm.
8 Some weapons are restricted and must be handed in or made permanently inoperable.

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Originally posted by shadow_419 Why is this such an alien concept to you? From the spear in the cave to the modern firearm in the home, man has always had tools to protect themselves and their property from others. Have you ever heard the saying "If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns." ?

yes, i too have found that the only feasible way to protect my home is with a 50 cal sniper rifle. Not to mention its ease of transport for personal protection when I go shopping.



I suppose one advantage of the sniper or assault rifle is that when the crackhead has legged it with your DVD player you can still get him from the other end of the street.

It was me in the library with a candle stick high on pcp

i love my sister.

lol like hiding the eyes is gonna do something

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter yes, i too have found that the only feasible way to protect my home is with a 50 cal sniper rifle. Not to mention its ease of transport for personal protection when I go shopping. I suppose one advantage of the sniper or assault rifle is that when the crackhead has legged it with your DVD player you can still get him from the other end of the street.

Um, no. I don't think anyone would categorize a sniper, assault, or anti-material rifle as a personal defense weapon. Learn a little before you come off the cuff like that. Again, I don't keep firearms for personal defense. I would use them if necessary, but I bought mine because I enjoy recreational shooting. I'd love to own a 50 cal ,but unfortunately I'd probably need a second mortgage just to buy the ammo for it. lol

mah pistola

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Originally posted by chach lol like hiding the eyes is gonna do something

lulz indeed

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Originally posted by shadow_419 *fixed Everything you own, you have because it's allowed and you then choose to purchase it. Millions don't own guns because the have interest in them. Just like race cars, motorcycles, RV's, golf clubs, cdjs, if there is an activity you enjoy you buy the tools to enjoy such activity. I enjoy shooting therefore I own guns legally.

Well if that's the real reason why don't people say that? Are they embarassed?

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Originally posted by XaNaX your home is full of deadly weapons, isn't that obvious to you? Knives, baseball bats, candlesticks, a car, various chemical poisons, a length of rope, etc. I would venture to guess that my "deadly weapons" are more secured than some of the deadly weapons in your home.

None of those things were designed with the sole and intentional purpose of being a deadly weapon though. A gun in the hands of anyone, even more so somebody trained in how to use one, bestows upon its weilder a ruthless precision in destroying its target from a safe distance. Common houshold appliances grant no such thing. Yes, there are many things that can be used by people to kill others... but a length of rope has never been a danger to a tenth of your graduating class.

Remember when that man threw a shoe at Bush? Wouldn't that have been a completely different scenario had he had a gun instead of a shoe? Oh, but a shoe *could* kill somebody if you sat them still and beat them to death with it!

A tool, living up to its intended purpose, is merely a tool. Yes, its utility is often subject to that of its weilder, so in some responsible, moral sense, people kill people, etc. But a gun's purpose is not peaceful in the least, it is a tool designed to kill, and this function is what is of worry. Nobody really gives a shit if you can justify owning one because paper targets need to die.

If anyone ever goes to Vegas, I recommend going to The Gun Store. http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/

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Originally posted by Abercrombie If anyone ever goes to Vegas, I recommend going to The Gun Store. http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/

lol nice. i can see it was giving you a little jolt and you're a big guy. i would probably fly backwards and land on my ass if i handled that thing

rules when dealing with guns.

1.ALLWAYS think a gun is loaded
*80% of gun accidents happen because people think the gun was NOT loaded

2.Never point the gun at something or someone, who you don't want to hit
*because of a mecanical defect or wrong manipulation of the weapon, it can still fire!

3.Don't leave your finger on the trigger unless your crosshair(? don't know if it's correct) is pointed at the target!
*because you could fall or because of convulsion you could put around 20kg (with 1finger) on that trigger and that's far enough to release a bullet

4.be certain of your target and it's environment!
because of overpenetration(of the bullet) or ricochets, you could hit something that can explode or just simply hit innocent people

shot with:
fnc 5.56
minimi 5.56
MAG 7.62
gp 9mm

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Originally posted by Slylee i would probably fly backwards and land on my ass if i handled that thing

Heard of something called "balance"?
If you were trying to stand and shoot without support except your hands, I'd understand you a bit. Leaning down towards the weapon and having support makes it EZ.
Looked like fun tho Aber, wish I could've shot a beauty like that during the army. Mainly because cleaning it and such would be a drive down Easy st.

I've trained/shot with H&K AG3 and Glock while in the army. We were promised more (MP5, RFK aka "Bazooka", Grenades, MG3), but didn't happen.

I carry a razor blade in my mouth.

I gots one of these:
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/at...chinese-sks.jpg (BIG image)

I dont own any guns but i've shot:

M16 - I'm deadly with this
M203 i smashed my index finger loading it and had to shoot with my middle finger
Thrown grenades
AT4 yeah, intense!
M240G

Some other shit im too lazy to fin...

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Originally posted by netroM Heard of something called "balance"? If you were trying to stand and shoot without support except your hands, I'd understand you a bit. Leaning down towards the weapon and having support makes it EZ. Looked like fun tho Aber, wish I could've shot a beauty like that during the army. Mainly because cleaning it and such would be a drive down Easy st. I've trained/shot with H&K AG3 and Glock while in the army. We were promised more (MP5, RFK aka "Bazooka", Grenades, MG3), but didn't happen.

lol i'm a 108 lb, 5'5 chick

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Originally posted by Slylee lol i'm a 108 lb, 5'5 chick

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Originally posted by Kaidreas rules when dealing with guns.

Forgot 5

5. When finding yourself in the situation of owning guns for protection, its time to find a new place to live.

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