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The story line.

Saw it yesterday. It was bad but not terrible.
Basically the movie went like:
1) Crap talk about politics or feelings
2) Action scene
3) Random sex or rape scene
4) Random Nena soundtrack that made me go
5) Repeat for too long.

I actually think it's a good thing that it tries to have a deeper-than-Michael-Bay plot with a point, but it just fails. Maybe 5/10.

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Originally posted by jennypie Your poseur elitist bullshit is really growing tiresome, man.

saw the movie last night. it was decent but forgettable. sooo much media hype for a film based on a comic book that pretty much no one read. and @ bas "I've never seen a comic to movie adaptation stay so true to the source" sin city and 300 were done pretty much word for word/scene for scene by the books.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue saw the movie last night. it was decent but forgettable. sooo much media hype for a film based on a comic book that pretty much no one read. and @ bas "I've never seen a comic to movie adaptation stay so true to the source" sin city and 300 were done pretty much word for word/scene for scene by the books.

Yeah that's true, but from what I've read Sin City doesn't have nearly as complex a storyline as The Watchmen. I think being able to pull off the Watchmen in movie form takes a lot more effort than Sin City.

And 300's storyline could have been recreated with zero knowledge of the original book

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Originally posted by bas Yeah that's true, but from what I've read Sin City doesn't have nearly as complex a storyline as The Watchmen. I think being able to pull off the Watchmen in movie form takes a lot more effort than Sin City. And 300's storyline could have been recreated with zero knowledge of the original book

true, watchmen was more complex i think. then again sin city was a collection of stories kinda slapped together.. meh.

I never read Watchmen and had no problem following what was going on in the movie.

i didn't understand how nixon had 5 terms in office and reagan was about to run for president. i got kinda confused with the timelines. i guess i should also try to see time from Dr. Manhattan's perspective

ps. was anyone, like me, trying to look for Dr. Manhattan's balls? his flacid penis looked weird just hanging there without the twins.

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Originally posted by fayraree i didn't understand how nixon had 5 terms in office and reagan was about to run for president. i got kinda confused with the timelines. i guess i should also try to see time from Dr. Manhattan's perspective ps. was anyone, like me, trying to look for Dr. Manhattan's balls? his flacid penis looked weird just hanging there without the twins.

In the title sequence you see a TV screen with Nixon getting elected for a third time and another TV that says "Term Limits Repealed."

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Originally posted by flavdave In the title sequence you see a TV screen with Nixon getting elected for a third time and another TV that says "Term Limits Repealed."

I know that, but how could the dude be in office for 20 years and then the timeline goes back to normal (i.e. 80s), enter Reagan?

the only sign in the movie that reminded me that this was all taking place in the past was the image of the Twin Towers.

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Originally posted by fayraree I know that, but how could the dude be in office for 20 years and then the timeline goes back to normal (i.e. 80s), enter Reagan?

Because that's what the screenwriter wrote down on his script

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Because that's what the screenwriter wrote down on his script

ohhhhhhhhhh

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Originally posted by NeoPhono It is if you look a little deeper than the comic book exterior...just like the original graphic novel. It's missing some of the nuances you get by reading the original, but the points I can name off the top of my head include; idealism and its corruption, both in society and the individual the transience of ideas and culture moral relativism the meaning and need for hero the acceptance and response to human nature There are plenty more, and I'm sure each person finds their own. So, yes, I would say that the content of the movie could be considered "deep." It's not going to be spoon-fed to you, especially if you're just there for boobs and bombs, but it's most definitely there.

Sure there were some profound messages, but if it's not delivered well in a film, what's the point?

You can't just have a total shit movie and then have someone spout off some interesting philosophical theories for 3 minutes and claim the movie is great.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Saw it yesterday. It was bad but not terrible. Basically the movie went like: 1) Crap talk about politics or feelings 2) Action scene 3) Random sex or rape scene 4) Random Nena soundtrack that made me go 5) Repeat for too long. I actually think it's a good thing that it tries to have a deeper-than-Michael-Bay plot with a point, but it just fails. Maybe 5/10.

Pretty much. It was trying too hard to appeal to both sides.... the people who wanted to see gorey action, and the people who wanted a decent story line with something to actually think about, and they butchered it.

As for understanding the story line, sure there were moments when there was confusion, but that's the way the story is supposed to be. Have you ever seen Vanilla Sky?

Oh, and as a side note... the last bit of the movie where Veidt or whatever his name was with the strange animal that appeared out of nowhere... was such a bullshit cop-out. Whether that was in the original book or not, it was lame. Just having a tell all scene where it *IS* spoon fed to you topped the shit cake with its icing.

The music was terrible... who the fuck thought 99 red balloons fit properly into that scene?! Seriously, I wanted to laugh at the ridiculousness of some of it.

Although I thought the movie was garbage, I thought the story and the messages were interesting. I may read the book.

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Originally posted by Theresa It was trying too hard to appeal to both sides.... the people who wanted to see gorey action, and the people who wanted a decent story line with something to actually think about, and they butchered it.

They didn't at all, actually. The book has no "gorey action" because it doesn't need it, therefore the movie didn't have any gorey action (save for the few scenes when Rorschach was kicking ass and taking names).

Why is everyone complaining about the music? It takes place in the 80s, what the fuck were they supposed to be listening to lol

As for Veidt's pet, there's something the movie didn't touch on which I think would have helped understand a bit more. Veidt Industries does EVERYTHING and they sell EVERYTHING, it's huge multibillion dollar conglomerate with stakes in every industry around. One of which happens to be biochemistry. He essentially "created" that creature to keep as a pet.

So, I guess it's pretty much safe to say this movie is more or less a love-letter to Watchmen fanboys and girls? Which I think is a nice way to say "fuck you" to everyone else, lol. Now THAT'S elitist. Awesome.

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Originally posted by bas They didn't at all, actually. The book has no "gorey action" because it doesn't need it, therefore the movie didn't have any gorey action (save for the few scenes when Rorschach was kicking ass and taking names). Why is everyone complaining about the music? It takes place in the 80s, what the fuck were they supposed to be listening to lol As for Veidt's pet, there's something the movie didn't touch on which I think would have helped understand a bit more. Veidt Industries does EVERYTHING and they sell EVERYTHING, it's huge multibillion dollar conglomerate with stakes in every industry around. One of which happens to be biochemistry. He essentially "created" that creature to keep as a pet.

You don't think the movie was gorey? It was probably one of the goriest and more violent movies that I have ever personally watched. Perhaps I should clarify... maybe not so much gorey as it was violent, although that is debatable.

The music was awful... music is supposed to incite certain emotions to compliment the message of the scene. Multiple times the movie did an awful job of properly executing this. The 99 Red Balloons example is the only one I can think of right now, but there were more. There were a hell of a lot of songs in and before the 80's to choose from. They could have done a better job.

As for the whole pet thing... if you're going to cut out a significant part of the story line, cut it all out or you leave the watchers baffled as to where the hell the strange animal came from. LOL!

Don't get me wrong, the story itself was not shit, it was the way the film was done that made it terrible. Certain parts dragged on for way too long (LOL @ the sex scene), there was too much irrelevant information/violence, the music sucked etc. etc. It seemed like the film makers couldn't decide between a focus on the message/intelligence of the story, or the desire to cater to the hollywood need of action and such. Like I said, they mashed it all together, and it was done poorly.

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Originally posted by jennypie So, I guess it's pretty much safe to say this movie is more or less a love-letter to Watchmen fanboys and girls? Which I think is a nice way to say "fuck you" to everyone else, lol. Now THAT'S elitist. Awesome.

That's a clear sign of fail. If only the fanboys/girls are going to love it because they already made up their mind to love it, then the movie is shit. A well made film can appeal to anyone.

Not if you're purposely trying to spit in the face of the general population (not that that's the goal, but I'd like to believe it is, lol). I think everyone complaining about this movie is making themselves look like an idiot. Lol.

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Originally posted by jennypie Not if you're purposely trying to spit in the face of the general population (not that that's the goal, but I'd like to believe it is, lol). I think everyone complaining about this movie is making themselves look like an idiot. Lol.

I REALLY wanted to like this movie for my boyfriend's sake. I went to see it with him because he wanted to see it so badly... I had never even heard of the story before.

Honestly, I almost walked out of the film a few times, but I stuck it out to try and find the parts I liked about it.

One thing I liked about it... Dr. Manhattan was bad ass. I think I would have enjoyed a story solely focused on him. The scenes with him for the most part were done really well (except the Mars scene where the Laurie character executes some of the worst acting I have ever seen).

When you watch the film, try to remove your inclination to like it just because, and actually analyze the film for what it is.

I will be surprised if you don't agree that it could have been done better.

Did your boyfriend like it?

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Originally posted by Theresa When you watch the film, try to remove your inclination to like it just because, and actually analyze the film for what it is.

Uh, why would I like it just because? I'm a huge Watchmen fan, and if anything that will make me more critical when I go in to watch it.

In short, I doubt I'll agree with you.

I doubt anybody would agree with anything Therese says.

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Originally posted by bas Did your boyfriend like it?

He's pretty indifferent. He's a philosophy major, so he enjoyed the philosophical rhetoric and has been pondering a lot of the symbolism etc. He liked that part of the movie.

However, he also agreed with me that that the film wasn't well done and said it left a lot to be desired.

With that being said, including some intelligent theories, some interesting commentary into the film was not the film makers doing... that was taken from the book. That doesn't lend any credence to the quality of the film.

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Originally posted by jennypie Uh, why would I like it just because? I'm a huge Watchmen fan, and if anything that will make me more critical when I go in to watch it. In short, I doubt I'll agree with you.

Fair enough...

I would definitely like to hear your review when you have seen it, although now I wonder if you will just say you liked it out of spite to those of us who said you wouldn't.

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Originally posted by nchs09 I doubt anybody would agree with anything Therese says.

Who is this Therese and why are we disagreeing with her!?



LOL @ that considering half the replies are on the same line as mine.

Why the fuck would I opine out of spite...over a MOVIE? That's fucking retarded, lol.

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Originally posted by jennypie Why the fuck would I opine out of spite...over a MOVIE? That's fucking retarded, lol.

Hey, it's a hit to the pride when you have been arguing about how all of us are idiots for disliking the movie, and to then be able to admit that the movie was crap.

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