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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Yeah, I don't really see 98-00 as "oldschool" either, especially knowing that trance originated in 91-92. But either way, it's my fault for not pointing that out in this thread to begin with.

Eh, they're classics in my book, since these are some of the first trance songs I had ever listened to. I'm sure I wouldn't have enjoyed spinning anything produced earlier. I'm not a big fan of Cafe Del Mar, I'm sure you were expecting to hear that one thrown on there

Re: Ziptnf - Dag Dabbit [old school trance]

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Originally posted by ziptnf ...where the beatgrid kept getting out of sync, so I found myself having to adjust the beatgrid manually during transitions. I wish I had 3 arms

It's actually very simple to get every single track beatgridded correctly. Unless, of course, it's a very bad vinyl rip made with shitty turntables that speed the record up or down. Send me a PM and I'll show you how to beatgrid them properly

Do I at least have till the end of today (EST)? If so I can pop something out... Was picking out some tracks.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch Do I at least have till the end of today (EST)? If so I can pop something out... Was picking out some tracks.

Sure, the deadline was supposed to be tomorrow (had a little typo in the first post) but with like half of the people not posting a mix at all there's no point in bitching about a few hours anyway.

Re: Re: Ziptnf - Dag Dabbit [old school trance]

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Originally posted by woscar shitty turntables that speed the record up or down.

thats whats been happening with my decks granted they ARE shit decks.. numark 1650's .. i just cant afford to buy any new ones now

Re: Ziptnf - Dag Dabbit [old school trance]

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Originally posted by ziptnf

nice tracks (have always loved some of them) but yeah would also have preferred tracks like 'love stimulation (pvd love mix)' which I think is what comes to mind when people say classic trance.

and yeah, that's what mainly made me buy cdjs and a mixer. beatgridding ,warping and whatnot on traktor and ableton felt like a tedious chore to do with every track. that and mixing with software only just feels soulless to me.

btw what remix of tiesto - sparkles is that?

Re: Re: Ziptnf - Dag Dabbit [old school trance]

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Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol nice tracks (have always loved some of them) but yeah would also have preferred tracks like 'love stimulation (pvd love mix)' which I think is what comes to mind when people say classic trance.

Can't please everyone, sorry.

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and yeah, that's what mainly made me buy cdjs and a mixer. beatgridding ,warping and whatnot on traktor and ableton felt like a tedious chore to do with every track. that and mixing with software only just feels soulless to me.

1. Traktor doesn't normally do that for me, this was the only time I had ever seen it happen.
2. How is it soulless? If you didn't know I made it in Traktor, would you have been able to tell a difference?

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btw what remix of tiesto - sparkles is that?

The Original Version. I didn't get it from Discogs, but this is the CD.

http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Tiesto-Sp...release/1170083

Re: Re: Re: Ziptnf - Dag Dabbit [old school trance]

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Originally posted by ziptnf 1. Traktor doesn't normally do that for me, this was the only time I had ever seen it happen. 2. How is it soulless? If you didn't know I made it in Traktor, would you have been able to tell a difference?

yeah, it's hard to trainwreck trance, twice.

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Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol yeah, it's hard to trainwreck trance, twice.

I appreciate your dick comment, but even vinyls and CDJ's aren't perfect. If you would read the thread you would notice Nukeuz has turntables that change speed, I'm pretty sure it would be easy to trainwreck with that kind of shit happening. Next time you have a degrading comment, read the fucking thread. Or alternatively, do better.

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Originally posted by ziptnf I appreciate your dick comment, but even vinyls and CDJ's aren't perfect. If you would read the thread you would notice Nukeuz has turntables that change speed, I'm pretty sure it would be easy to trainwreck with that kind of shit happening. Next time you have a degrading comment, read the fucking thread. Or alternatively, do better.

who says they are? And nukleuz himself admitted that they were shit turntables. In any medium (which works perfectly fine) trance is one of the easiest genres to mix. I assume you didn't test the tracks beforehand because if you did, then you probably would know whatever problem you had. And don't pull the 'I have a life' card. It takes like 20 minutes to see whether beatgrids are aligned.

I don't know why you would submit a set with 2 trainwrecks on software mixing. That's all I'm saying.

Uh, for your information, I did test the tracks beforehand, but didn't know how to fix the beatgrid problem, so I had to TRY MY BEST with what I knew how to do, which was manually adjust the beatgrid. Look, if all you're going to do is bash my mix, don't fucking listen to it, and get the hell out of this thread. I've never seen you post a mix before, so don't try to act like you can do any better.

I posted the mix even though it had two bad transitions, because hey, I'm a fucking human, and I make mistakes. Sorry if you disapprove of my music, but I don't see the need to sit here and attack my entry like I'm trying to change the god damn world or something. Do better than me, or get the fuck out. That simple.

so tranceowns...where is your mix?


i don't think i am able to listen to the trance mix (i8 just can't sit through these tracks anymore), but people have to remember that classics for people a lot younger than yourself might not always be the same thing.

fattie

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Originally posted by lenazi i don't think i am able to listen to the trance mix (i8 just can't sit through these tracks anymore), but people have to remember that classics for people a lot younger than yourself might not always be the same thing. fattie

Eh, I didn't start listening to trance till around when these were released, and even then I didn't dive into the really old stuff. I don't see that as a bad thing, honestly.

Btw, how was that $600 dollar burger, Jay?

delicious, it made up for the shit movie.

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Uh, for your information, I did test the tracks beforehand, but didn't know how to fix the beatgrid problem, so I had to TRY MY BEST with what I knew how to do, which was manually adjust the beatgrid.

fair enough

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Look, if all you're going to do is bash my mix, don't fucking listen to it, and get the hell out of this thread. I've never seen you post a mix before, so don't try to act like you can do any better. I posted the mix even though it had two bad transitions, because hey, I'm a fucking human, and I make mistakes. Sorry if you disapprove of my music, but I don't see the need to sit here and attack my entry like I'm trying to change the god damn world or something. Do better than me, or get the fuck out. That simple.

I listened to your mix. I don't see where you get this idea that i'm trying to attack you when all I made was a facetious comment about how you trainwrecked. In fact I was just expressing how I was glad that I am mixing on actual gear rather than software. Then you got all defensive. I hope you take this lightheartedly coz I know it's not your fault your software fucked up.

I said I liked the tracks didn't I, I never disapproved anything about your music.

I've always wanted to post my mixes but I just couldn't spare the money to buy a recorder. Since for the past 6 months I've been saving up for nice clothes and an expensive watch, since I have other priorities than proving to a bunch of people online that I can mix, (just kidding ). I'll post a mix up when I get a recording device. I have a xone 92, CDJ 400s and sennheiser hd 25 if you're curious.

you don't need a recorder to record.


google it.

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Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol I listened to your mix. I don't see where you get this idea that i'm trying to attack you when all I made was a facetious comment about how you trainwrecked. In fact I was just expressing how I was glad that I am mixing on actual gear rather than software. Then you got all defensive. I hope you take this lightheartedly coz I know it's not your fault your software fucked up.

Just understand that it's hard to look back and take your comment as facetious, I saw it as a rather distasteful way to express the fact that you didn't approve of software mixing. I find Traktor to be very easy to use and it normally works quite well, plus I enjoy the fact that my VCI-100, Portable Harddrive, and Numark Soundcard takes up way less space than a big mixer, two turntables, and a giant box of vinyls. I came sorta late into the DJ game, so forgive me for not spinning like an old school DJ would.

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I said I liked the tracks didn't I, I never disapproved anything about your music.

I appreciate that you liked my music, I just think you could have found a better time/place to argue about Traktor vs. CDJ's/Vinyls.

Sorry for getting defensive.

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Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol In any medium (which works perfectly fine) trance is one of the easiest genres to mix.

that is a load of bollocks.. trance isnt ultra difficult to mix, but it certainly isnt easy.. blending of melodies is not an easy task... or maybe it is.. but the blending of 2 fitting melodies as part of a nicely flowing set is NOT easy, or atleast it is not one of the easiest styles to mix.

anyways cut the guy some slack.. he did his mix. im a DJ of 14 years and i didnt submit mine because of problems. granted i have shit decks that have a mind of their own.. and traktor is no different.. i assume you have tried traktor too?... i have and im only too familiar with the problem that ziptnif had see my italo mix from the first competition for details

Thanks to Sand Leaper (NuJazz) and Ziptnf (Old School Trance) for 2 very enjoyable sets.

I and my friends, roommates get more pleasure from these sets than you guys could ever imagine.

Kind of interesting to me, first I listened to Tony and Nik's sets which represent familiar and favored genres to me; I enjoyed them both so much but I always enjoy good downtempo and techno or trancy techy compilations.

Then I listen to Jan Henrik's set, the genre which felt less familiar yet very attractive, interesting I think, this is music which intrigues me and now, with Ziptnf's set, I'm back to what is most dear to me, which I guess may not be "old school" to some of you and I have to insert here, age is not such a determining factor because I'm as old (mentally and emotionally) as Sand Leaper but the tracks Ziptnf selected definitely is "old school" to me, the classics that you loved back then and you hear them now and you think wow, I will always love these tracks...

lol, sorry, I lost my train of thought. Just want to say thanks, good stuff. I read criticism of Ziptnf's but I dunno, his set wins me. It's just good, plain and simply good.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence

Hey, thanks for the review, that was my goal, was to play familiar tracks for everyone that are easy to love. Even though I had a couple shitty transitions, I feel like the tracks are too good to trash the set because of some poor beatgridding. I really appreciate this, your feedback makes me so happy

Aaaaaaaaaand we're done!!!

When fewer people than in the previous rounds registered I was hoping we could finally have a round where all mixes are done. Sadly I was completely wrong and not even half of the mixes were done. I don't really know what went wrong or what could be done about it.

Not to criticize anyone in particular, but the "deal" with this game is that you commit to do a random genre mix and what you get in return is that someone mixes the one you registered. When so many participants just drop out the whole idea goes astray.

I don't think there'll be a fourth round in the next few month (unless someone else does it, of course). Maybe with a longer pause interest and dedication will be renewed.

Why don't you just extend the deadline a few days? Do you think that will help?

If this thing dies, I just have to say I think it was a great idea and I enjoyed all the sets that were posted. It just seemed so fun to me. Like to make a set in the genre that was assigned.

Cheers.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Maybe with a longer pause interest and dedication will be renewed.

Hopefully. Maybe three rounds in pretty quick succession was a bit too much. I still think the concept is a pretty good idea and I thoroughly enjoyed joining in one of the rounds.

Maybe you can try again when autumn / winter is getting nearer (for most of us), people might have a somewhat longer attention span and put in a little more effort by that time. Plus the fact that the concept might have lost a bit of staleness by then.

Yeah, why not extending the deadline by about 2 weeks? I'd gladly submit something if I had more time...

yeah i agree. this idea is ace and it would be a shame for there not to be another.

after i was in the first competition i was annoyed with people that didnt bother doing their mix. and yet this time i have failed to produce, but it really was a genuine reason... my decks are balls'd

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