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Originally posted by snatonsb If I have the 1000mk3's do you think it is worth the upgrade to the 2000's??? How is the beatgrid system? I use cd's right now but was thinking of jumping ship to Traktor also what do you think? Thanks dude!

Well Traktor has a more accurate tempo display than the CDJ2000's and like Ryan mentioned, he's got a busted USB jack on one, and a "sandy" platter on the other. I'm definitely holding off for a little bit anyways.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Might want to hold off for a bit, BOTH of my CDJ-2000's are having different physical build issues.

Oh thanks for the 411 man! Any other problems with them so far? So I should rather invest my money in Traktor for my Macbook Pro and keep my 1000mk3's correct? Thanks for the help super appreciated!

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Might want to hold off for a bit, BOTH of my CDJ-2000's are having different physical build issues.

Wow, that's terrible - What's this about a broken USB socket and sandy platter?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Wow, that's terrible - What's this about a broken USB socket and sandy platter?

Yep....

explain!@

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Originally posted by Marcus007 explain!@

On one of the decks, the USB port on the top probably has a bad solder joint or something. You plug in the drive and it won't show up, if you wiggle it a tad, it'll start flashing but never actually loads up.

On the other deck, the platter isn't quite as smooth. It feels a bit rough. It's working fine, but I'm not happy with less than perfect at this price point.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 but I'm not happy with less than perfect at this price point.

Damn straight.. Hope you get them fixed nice and fast mate and that it doesn't take away from the buzz you were on after getting them

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Originally posted by n3lly Damn straight.. Hope you get them fixed nice and fast mate and that it doesn't take away from the buzz you were on after getting them

Pioneer contacted my dealer and my dealer contacted me saying they will replace both units. That's customer service!

Let's face it, if Pio had treated you in any other way it would have been like shooting themselves in the foot.

One of the first people to buy such a massively important product from them, your valued opinion will be heard louder than any subsequent customer on these forums........

That said, I'd be fucking livid if I'd got something less than perfect for that money.

Isn't it odd that the minute these things come out the 1000s look like a throwback from the 80s!!!

I need some!

PM Me anyone in the UK that wants to buy 2 mint MK3s.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister PM Me anyone in the UK that wants to buy 2 mint MK3s.

Do not tempt me.

I just pulled in my christmas pay cheque and I've done so well not to blow it on anything.. so far.

Thanks for this...
Yeah. Probably Too Much..and thanks for this all details dj link i like this ..
Thanks...

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Originally posted by martinfoster Thanks for this... Yeah. Probably Too Much..and thanks for this all details dj link i like this .. Thanks...

You forgot to say thanks mate.

So i got to try out the 2000's last night...

I dunno what i was expecting but to me it just felt like a 1000 with some new lights on it lol I can see how the USB thing is nice but really thats only ever going to be really usful if every club has them otherwise u still have to have CDs with u anyway. They looked cool but apart from that not much else i really had to say about them.

EDIT: to be fair i didnt actually get to experiment with them to much as i was playing for about 500 ppl at a packed club and didnt want to F*** up and look like an idiot lol so if i get a chance to try some out when im not playing out then might be different

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Originally posted by chris harrington So i got to try out the 2000's last night... I dunno what i was expecting but to me it just felt like a 1000 with some new lights on it lol I can see how the USB thing is nice but really thats only ever going to be really usful if every club has them otherwise u still have to have CDs with u anyway. They looked cool but apart from that not much else i really had to say about them. EDIT: to be fair i didnt actually get to experiment with them to much as i was playing for about 500 ppl at a packed club and didnt want to F*** up and look like an idiot lol so if i get a chance to try some out when im not playing out then might be different

But that's the whole point... you had never used them, walked up to them, and used them just like you had used 1000's. They didn't mess with the very familiar interface.

All of the "neat new stuff" requires you to dig deeper.

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Originally posted by chris harrington it just felt like a 1000 with some new lights on it lol I can see how the USB thing is nice but really thats only ever going to be really usful if every club has them otherwise u still have to have CDs with u anyway.

Isn't that more or less what they are? To me, these things seem like a half assed effort on the part of pioneer.

Although I guess since the CDJ1000 is so successful, then "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of applies to this situation.

To me they are absolutely brilliant.

I mean I really really like them. And I'm not a pioneer fanboy.

I purely hate the price they're set at. But that's a given If every club (and they will) get a set of these you'll be laughing with your memory stick and headphones in tow.

How cool would that be. Rock up with your headphones and memory stick. Boom I'm ready to rock this place.

But It'll take another few years until we're there.

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Originally posted by n3lly To me they are absolutely brilliant. I mean I really really like them. And I'm not a pioneer fanboy.

You like them in general or you think they are a big step up from the CDJ1000MK3?

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Originally posted by Man_Devil Isn't that more or less what they are? To me, these things seem like a half assed effort on the part of pioneer. Although I guess since the CDJ1000 is so successful, then "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of applies to this situation.

That's exactly what I feel about them. Much as the "features" seem like developments, it's far more about getting people to pony up some more cash for a "new" model rather than offering something "new".

For a start no realistic DJ is going to go to a club just with a memory stick and think "it'll be fine". You're still going to take your CD wallet in case (especially as USB slots are some of the easiest thing to damage on any piece of kit and Ryan is not the first person to say there has been an issue with the USB on the 2000 now) then to use the other functions you have to go through layers, which to me negates the point of CDJ's - why not just bring a laptop and use whatever CDJ's (in most cases 1000's which are certainly up to the task).

And that's coming from someone who dislikes laptop sets.

I think it's more lights and some extra functions which don't amount to much, and certainly not the cash they're asking for.

I'm not sure every club will buy these - all the big companies I know that do major events hire, look for stability, build quality and longevity, clubs included, and so far it seems the 1000 fares much better. Combine that with the fact that nearly every pio model gets a revision (mk2/Mk3 etc.), I can't see businesses adopting or DJ's requesting them on riders them that fast yet.

Maybe I'm wrong though?

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Originally posted by Man_Devil You like them in general or you think they are a big step up from the CDJ1000MK3?

I only like the idea behind them. I don't think their price reflects the step up that they've taken from the 1000's.

It'll take a few years for them to settle down I think.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I'm not sure every club will buy these - all the big companies I know that do major events hire, look for stability, build quality and longevity, clubs included, and so far it seems the 1000 fares much better. Combine that with the fact that nearly every pio model gets a revision (mk2/Mk3 etc.), I can't see businesses adopting or DJ's requesting them on riders them that fast yet. Maybe I'm wrong though?

Yeah I have a feeling the CDJ900 & 2000 will be a huge flop for pioneer. It's not like USB sticks are going to be the big new trend for DJs. The only people I can see buying it are A)rich people/spoiled rich kids and B) big money clubs. They are waaaaay too expensive for your average bedroom DJ. Its not like little johnny is going to save $$ from his paper route for 5 years to afford these when he could get something that works just fine for a quarter of the price.

I am planning on picking up a pair of CDJ400s in the next month or so. More or less the same deal as the 900/2000 but for less than half the price!

Every time I look at these things (900s/2000s) and look at their price I say to myself "what the hell was pioneer thinking". Their prices make them totally out of reach for 95% of their potential market. If anything this will just cause more people to try to get their hands on used CDJ1000MK3s, which will hopefully drop in price now.

it took me 3 years to get the digital gear that i wanted.. first i needed a mixer upgrade so i got the pio djm 800... then a year later i picked up a cdj 1k mk3, then comes 2k9 and my girl got my the final cdj 1k mk3 and i couldnt be happier! I dont see the plus on spending 2k for the usb feature... now my issue is, do i convert my records and sell them or should i just purchase all the mp3's of my records...
i dont know if i want to get rid of my TT yet..

you have to remember too though, these obviously aren't aimed at your average bedroom dj, why would they need the usb support?

this is for professional working djs who have to play multiple gigs, sometimes in one night

already i usually only head out to play for the weekend armed with only a thumbdrive, my headphones and maybe a pair of mp3 cds (in case there isn't a serato setup around), but lately, i just plug into serato and away i go

my crates and everything are already all there on my thumbdrive and pretty much everywhere i play on a regular basis, i'm able to plug into a friend's serato setup

now, eliminate the need for a laptop and allow me to plug into a cdj directly allowing me to interact more with the crowd and i'm set... oh wait, they just did

and it's only a matter of time before they're installed at the venues i play at, especially once they become the norm on riders

and once they catch on, i only need to buy the software to set up my playlists and thumbdrive

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 But that's the whole point... you had never used them, walked up to them, and used them just like you had used 1000's. They didn't mess with the very familiar interface. All of the "neat new stuff" requires you to dig deeper.

thats true and i would like to try all that stuff out. I guess i was expecting to walk up to them and be blown away and i just wasnt because it seemed the same.

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Originally posted by Man_Devil Isn't that more or less what they are? To me, these things seem like a half assed effort on the part of pioneer.

kinda what im thinking right now but like i said want to look at them more closley

when do you guys think the price for the 1000 mk3 will drop ??

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Originally posted by PezCore when do you guys think the price for the 1000 mk3 will drop ??

cdj-100s is still $400 new if that tells you anything

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