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@Krinker: Right on the spot... but I think you inverted your BenB and BeB ;-)

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Originally posted by KrinKer I think most people were expecting, Rauhofer/Calderone, lawler, Sanchez, Mark Antony, Chus and ceballos kinda line-up. Now that would have made people go nuts for !

get over it krinkette !!!

please change your example to a 2010 line up if you want me to get your point. Also good to have legends in a line up, but please bring in the new acts too.

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Originally posted by KrinKer they're bitching because no massive is actually answering their call of something for their taste.

that's why i think there is missing one room.

everybody wants to put music in boxes, now deal with it. this reality must be reflected in your event if you wish increasing your attendance to previous years levels. in 1999 it was a rave... now you call it the sole "House" party...


edit: max told me you loved being called krinkette, couldn't resist to please you

@ Fran666: Thank you for posting a video of my favorite Black&Blue ever. In terms of production value, that's what I look for in a massive (something like Sensation White) and that's something B&B used to be. Although, I understand budget cuts forced them into making tough choices.

Also, no one is criticizing King Louis' sick lineup for the Trance room. If I liked Trance and all its derivatives, I would be jumping up and down with joy.

What we're questioning is:
A) the 2 room formula.
Black&Blue is meant to bring everyone together and here we go splitting them into rooms, which most likely will be according to orientation. Also, the last time they did it with Mistress Barbara in the Trance/Techno room, it was an epic fail.

B) the lineup in the "house room"
Fran666: "please change your example to a 2010 line up if you want me to get your point. Also good to have legends in a line up, but please bring in the new acts too"
I really hope you were talking about the "Trance room" and not the "House room" or I'll start doubting your "House" knowledge
This year's house room lineup is anything but 2010 or fresh. Rosabel were popular back in the 90s along with Hex Hector, Junior Vasquez and Jonathan Peters. Paulette was probably invited because she had a minor "wow" moment when she played at B&B and she decided to play "Let the Sunshine In" when rays of sunlight started pouring into the stadium through the upper windows around 6-7AM. Mark was invited because he is after all Mr Black&Blue. So the only ones still relevant are Chus & Ceballos.

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Originally posted by HappyDude72 @ Fran666: Thank you for posting a video of my favorite Black&Blue ever. In terms of production value, that's what I look for in a massive (something like Sensation White) and that's something B&B used to be. Although, I understand budget cuts forced them into making tough choices. Also, no one is criticizing King Louis' sick lineup for the Trance room. If I liked Trance and all its derivatives, I would be jumping up and down with joy. What we're questioning is: A) the 2 room formula. Black&Blue is meant to bring everyone together and here we go splitting them into rooms, which most likely will be according to orientation. Also, the last time they did it with Mistress Barbara in the Trance/Techno room, it was an epic fail. B) the lineup in the "house room" Fran666: "please change your example to a 2010 line up if you want me to get your point. Also good to have legends in a line up, but please bring in the new acts too" I really hope you were talking about the "Trance room" and not the "House room" or I'll start doubting your "House" knowledge This year's house room lineup is anything but 2010 or fresh. Rosabel were popular back in the 90s along with Hex Hector, Junior Vasquez and Jonathan Peters. Paulette was probably invited because she had a minor "wow" moment when she played at B&B and she decided to play "Let the Sunshine In" when rays of sunlight started pouring into the stadium through the upper windows around 6-7AM. Mark was invited because he is after all Mr Black&Blue. So the only ones still relevant are Chus & Ceballos.

i was talking if you had a dream line up for this year... what would it be ? i was teasing krinker on his choice that's all.

i wasn't talking about this year's line up, i think it is pretty obvious which crowd they want to please.

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Originally posted by Fran666 get over it krinkette !!! please change your example to a 2010 line up if you want me to get your point. Also good to have legends in a line up, but please bring in the new acts too. that's why i think there is missing one room. everybody wants to put music in boxes, now deal with it. this reality must be reflected in your event if you wish increasing your attendance to previous years levels. in 1999 it was a rave... now you call it the sole "House" party... edit: max told me you loved being called krinkette, couldn't resist to please you

I don't mind Krinkette, Max has wanted me for a whole lot of time and he expects me to fall for him because he calls me this, just never thought you'd scoop that low.

As far as BenB goes, the problem is 2010 is their 20th bday and they had to come up with something spectacular. I'm really sorry to say (and me saying sorry usually doesn't come often) that they missed the mark unless they have booked something spectacular as the last act and, in all honesty, unless they have done a miracle and booked Daft Punk (btw new album out on nov 23rd) they have dropped the ball on their line-up and their roots.

BenB, however you want to call it: rave or house party, was alway about circuit house music, not only circuit house music but the best circuit house music. Now there is two things they could have done here: A) bring the biggest house names they could book and, if possible, the dj's that rocked the BenB the most over their 20 years (Mark Anthony is a great example here) or B) do the complete opposite and build a line-up with the future of circuit house music. I will actually say that I think that the addition of the trance room is a good thing as it will bring more people to the party and bring more awareness to their cause (and kuddos to whomever booked the trance room 'cause it's a great line-up), but by doing so they completly forgot the very people that made the BenB what it is right now. Sure the live acts and the dancers are still going to be there, and it probably will still be the best party of the year, but I'm pretty sure people are going to come back from the party and say that there was something missing from BenB this year.

I just hope to god that BenB doesn't lose its soul like BeB did when they introduced and "techno/trance" room.

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Originally posted by Fran666 i was talking if you had a dream line up for this year... what would it be ? i was teasing krinker on his choice that's all.

Dream line-up ?

Three rooms based on the Christmas Carol (ghost from the past, present and future

1 trance room (Ghosts from the present) Trance dj's that are the "big thing" at the moment, for all I know about trance cut and paste the trance room from BenB 2010

2 "Circuit" room (Ghost from the Past) Dj's that have rocked BenB previously

09:30 to 02:00 = Mark Anthony
02:00 to 05:00 = Vibe
05:00 to 08:00 = Chus and Ceballos
08:00 to 12:00 = Danny Tenaglia

3 Tech-house room (Ghost from the future) Up and coming tech-house dj's that are probably not known by "most people" but that the edm lovers recognize as dj who have potential and maybe some big names

09:30 to 12:30 = Driss Skali
12:30 to 03:00 = Solomun
03:00 to 05:00 = Nic Fanciulli
05:00 to 07:00 = Joris Voorn
07:00 to 09:00 = Yousef
09:00 to 12:00 = Loco Dice

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Originally posted by KrinKer I don't mind Krinkette, Max has wanted me for a whole lot of time and he expects me to fall for him because he calls me this, just never thought you'd scoop that low. As far as BenB goes, the problem is 2010 is their 20th bday and they had to come up with something spectacular. I'm really sorry to say (and me saying sorry usually doesn't come often) that they missed the mark unless they have booked something spectacular as the last act and, in all honesty, unless they have done a miracle and booked Daft Punk (btw new album out on nov 23rd) they have dropped the ball on their line-up and their roots. BenB, however you want to call it: rave or house party, was alway about circuit house music, not only circuit house music but the best circuit house music. Now there is two things they could have done here: A) bring the biggest house names they could book and, if possible, the dj's that rocked the BenB the most over their 20 years (Mark Anthony is a great example here) or B) do the complete opposite and build a line-up with the future of circuit house music. I will actually say that I think that the addition of the trance room is a good thing as it will bring more people to the party and bring more awareness to their cause (and kuddos to whomever booked the trance room 'cause it's a great line-up), but by doing so they completly forgot the very people that made the BenB what it is right now. Sure the live acts and the dancers are still going to be there, and it probably will still be the best party of the year, but I'm pretty sure people are going to come back from the party and say that there was something missing from BenB this year. I just hope to god that BenB doesn't lose its soul like BeB did when they introduced and "techno/trance" room.

i hear you, but not convinced yet, last year i was really expecting s&d to kick ass and no... dave seaman stole the night for me, never thought he would be able until then.

waiting for this year's surprise and who knows maybe ralphi and abel will be my highlight. who knows.

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Originally posted by KrinKer Dream line-up ? Three rooms based on the Christmas Carol (ghost from the past, present and future 1 trance room (Ghosts from the present) Trance dj's that are the "big thing" at the moment, for all I know about trance cut and paste the trance room from BenB 2010 2 "Circuit" room (Ghost from the Past) Dj's that have rocked BenB previously 09:30 to 02:00 = Mark Anthony 02:00 to 05:00 = Vibe 05:00 to 08:00 = Chus and Ceballos 08:00 to 12:00 = Danny Tenaglia 3 Tech-house room (Ghost from the future) Up and coming tech-house dj's that are probably not known by "most people" but that the edm lovers recognize as dj who have potential and maybe some big names 09:30 to 12:30 = Driss Skali 12:30 to 03:00 = Solomun 03:00 to 05:00 = Nic Fanciulli 05:00 to 07:00 = Joris Voorn 07:00 to 09:00 = Yousef 09:00 to 12:00 = Loco Dice

now you're talking

What would be yours Frank ...

let's see you talk :P

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Originally posted by KrinKer What would be yours Frank ... let's see you talk :P

nice way to put me in trouble with some of my local dj friends

but all i can say is that i'd include david penn, yousef, joris voorn, chris liebing, marco v, gareth emery for sure.

what a way to leave me high and dry !!!!

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Originally posted by Fran666 last year i was really expecting s&d to kick ass and no... dave seaman stole the night for me, never thought he would be able until then.

+1

also: BeB and B&B

@ KrinKer: Ouch!! If I were Vibe or Chus & Ceballos, I would be insulted to be in included in the "circuit" (i.e. past room). Those are DJs that were tribal back then, but evolved their sound to include more techno, tech house and minimal, especially Vibe. As is the the case with Calderone and D-Formation.

However do I agree with you in that a nice way to do the lineup would be chronologically (combining 2 of your ideas). Start the evening with big DJs that made the B&B what it is today and maybe end it with names of DJs to look for in the future.

This is what you can expect the dancefloor to look like with Rosabel playing ;-) Although it's funny that in the first 2 clips they're playing Rauhofer remixes/mashups
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2RLzIfhLi8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIxVzlmjAJg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEUV64FIVms
And here they throw all the acapellas they have into their intro ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpK55exVj_s

@Fran666: would that be your lineup for a "House room" or just a party in general with no specific genres ?

Like Spin said
B&B = Black and Blue
BenB = Bal en Blanc

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Originally posted by KrinKer Dream line-up ? Three rooms based on the Christmas Carol (ghost from the past, present and future 1 trance room (Ghosts from the present) Trance dj's that are the "big thing" at the moment, for all I know about trance cut and paste the trance room from BenB 2010 2 "Circuit" room (Ghost from the Past) Dj's that have rocked BenB previously 09:30 to 02:00 = Mark Anthony 02:00 to 05:00 = Vibe 05:00 to 08:00 = Chus and Ceballos 08:00 to 12:00 = Danny Tenaglia 3 Tech-house room (Ghost from the future) Up and coming tech-house dj's that are probably not known by "most people" but that the edm lovers recognize as dj who have potential and maybe some big names 09:30 to 12:30 = Driss Skali 12:30 to 03:00 = Solomun 03:00 to 05:00 = Nic Fanciulli 05:00 to 07:00 = Joris Voorn 07:00 to 09:00 = Yousef 09:00 to 12:00 = Loco Dice

I'd have a very hard time deciding how to split my time between those 2 rooms let me tell you whutttt.

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Originally posted by corjay9 I'd have a very hard time deciding how to split my time between those 2 rooms let me tell you whutttt.

I'd have the same problem ... altho I would probably stay in the Ghost of the Future room most of the night :P

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Originally posted by Fran666 i hear you, but not convinced yet, last year i was really expecting s&d to kick ass and no... dave seaman stole the night for me, never thought he would be able until then. waiting for this year's surprise and who knows maybe ralphi and abel will be my highlight. who knows.

The problem with their line-up also is that they won't get the people who would be "close" to going. Had they actually had a decent house line-up, I would have paid the 130$ + hotel + party prescription that the party requires, with this type of line-up, I'll keep my ass firmly glued to my couch and will have a great night of sleep afterwards !

I have a feeling you're gonna take those words back ... just a feeling

By the way, I'm behind the trance bookings ... and proud of it

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Originally posted by FunKenLouis I have a feeling you're gonna take those words back ... just a feeling By the way, I'm behind the trance bookings ... and proud of it

best trance line up i've seen in this city EVAR. well for my taste

thanks louis !!!

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Originally posted by HappyDude72 @Fran666: would that be your lineup for a "House room" or just a party in general with no specific genres ?

yeah right a house line up with liebing and gareth



i'd do at least 3 rooms...

my wish in fact, when i think of it, is to have a sorta jazz fest but with edm. so all styles represented.

I'd love 3 rooms at some of these big events

trance
house
techno!!!!

and definitely an awesome trance room... so many legends in that room... gonna be nuts!

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Originally posted by Marcus007 I'd love 3 rooms at some of these big events

house
tech
and fetish room for Brians

well if these guys can pull off two rooms successfully then discussion about a third room is def warranted.

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Originally posted by FunKenLouis I have a feeling you're gonna take those words back ... just a feeling By the way, I'm behind the trance bookings ... and proud of it

Louis

Great job on those bookings, but unless it's DT Vs Cox for 6 hours at the end of the party, I won't be attending for sure.

D-Formation killed it at Stereo yesterday. Would like to see him booked as that last dj as well.

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Originally posted by Mrs Haus Offer is already booked with Ana Paula at the competing event being put together by Productions Playground on the same night as Black and Blue.

haven't seen venue yet (let's play Playground/BeB's "guess the venue") but I'm hearing rumblings it will be moved from Bell Centre to Brian's basement at the last second, with complimentary ball muzzles for everyone.

They served one over to BBCM with that booking, let's see if BBCM can return it.

Any idea when the other house DJ is to be announced?

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