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kismet, i am usually the anti-technology, anti-education, anti-establishment spiritual nutjob in these threads, and if i'm telling you you're making an ass of yourself, you might want to reconsider what you're saying.
and no, i am not being held hostage in an undisclosed location and being dictated to as i type this sobbing.
*BAM!!! my head falls off and tiny robots spill out from my neck to infiltrate the next victim and turn him into a hopeless, despicable, educated sheep*
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| Originally posted by idoru Are you unwilling to acknowledge that, because man has its faults, cancer might be really fucking hard to cure? You're not a doctor, you're not a scientist, so who the fuck are you to say that it's primarily a money-making business as opposed to a prevention business? |
Pot. Kettle.
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| Originally posted by nefardec kismet, i am usually the anti-technology, anti-education, anti-establishment spiritual nutjob in these threads, and if i'm telling you you're making an ass of yourself, you might want to reconsider what you're saying. and no, i am not being held hostage in an undisclosed location and being dictated to as i type this sobbing. *BAM!!! my head falls off and tiny robots spill out from my neck to infiltrate the next victim and turn him into a hopeless, despicable, educated sheep* |
If I've learned anything from this thread, it's that the fact that Kismet made it this far in life completely disproves the concept of natural selection.
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| Originally posted by idoru If I've learned anything from this thread, it's that the fact that Kismet made it this far in life completely disproves the concept of natural selection. |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 Why would you have to be at an undisclosed location to be a shill? You can be one from the confort of your own home, i'm sure they prefer hermits. |
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| Originally posted by nefardec You're right something seems off about my post. Perhaps they told me to write that, so that you would believe they are in my home, when they really are not! That's how they operate. |
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| Originally posted by idoru If I've learned anything from this thread, it's that the fact that Kismet made it this far in life completely disproves the concept of natural selection. |
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| Originally posted by nefardec Didn't kismet say he was enlightened in another thread recently? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 the illusion is on your part, to think enlightenment is superiority. thats your fault, not mine. And you have your own elitist genre stroking and bashing nature...so dont even talk about illusory superiority, because the irony is strong. |
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| "i have teh eucations and paper shows name on...yet i still know nothing for thiz topic" -Average Dumb Shill Get a clue, they only hire complete idiots at the job you particularly do (forum shills). I think I made my point that you guys have really nothing to show for your "high institutional educations" towards this topic and quite a few others. This topic requires intelligence, not a conditioned activity that results in a piece of paper that has no proof that anything through the experience was retained. |
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| People learn the basic essentials of research in 8th grade. The same skillset you guys could use to find info outside of the little box you live in, yet fail to do so. Why are you guys overinflating institutional education, when you still fail at logic and reasoning skills. Which again, any high schooler who thinks outside the box you guys seem to be trapped in could out smart any of you. |
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| you guys are talking about education, yet are still dumber than rocks, how is this possible? education is only good if you are retaining what you get from it, otherwise its just a social conditioning that people go through, and the shills here are prime evidence of the education system not working properly. thank you |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 but he said his concious would not let him join in on it. |
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| Originally posted by nefardec um, enlightenment is the superior (transcendent) state in basically every cultural context. what is enlightenment to you, great kismet? lol. look at the things you've said about 'shills' i agree to some degree with a lot of the sentiments you have, but you are just arguing extremely poorly, creating straw men left and right, and generally making an ass of yourself. also, regarding that little stab at me: music preference is purely a question taste. i have never called anyone unintelligent for liking music that i don't enjoy. |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 Because...of the depolutionist ideal they have. Even Aaron Russo said he thinks the world is overpopulated, when Rockefeller told him they want to depopulate the world population by half, but he said his concious would not let him join in on it. How it is setup now, instead of finding cures and making money off only cures, which would result in short treatments and less money, that they are making money off the endless search for cures. Whether it is taxpayer money they give themselves, or the donation money they rake in. |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 In return, selling temporary cures in which people are in this long "fighting to stay alive" mode. Some get cured, most dont. So there is an added benefit of depopulating, killing off people through a disease that people have no control over avoiding. Logically, finding cures would actually cut their treatment lengths short, they'd make less money, and depopulation would not take place. You have to understand man has its faults, those faults being put to use here, with the rewards that fill pockets and ideals. |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 You think the recent Swine Flu is natural phenomomenon in which millions of vaccines were made to be given to people? It was heavily backed by WHO and it was suppose to be the next depopulationist disease. |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 your definition of enlightenment is not the same as mine obviously, and as cheap as your previous definition in that particular thread, obviously the ideal is not universal. And why does enlightenment have to entitle superiority? You're creating you're own definition. |
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| Originally posted by Lira If the population is to be cut in half, shouldn't they work on something that could at least halt the population growth? We're about to have a world with 7 billion inhabitants, and the figures do nothing but increase. If they want both profit and less people in the world, wouldn't it make more sense to start wars (and make money selling guns, among other things) and then invest on the cheap land and future business opportunities? Helping Japan and Germany get back on track after WWII was a very good idea, economically, after all. And it failed miserably, killing in average as many patients as an ordinary strand of flu. Couldn't the Rockafeller come up with a stronger virus? They'd have the true vaccine for themselves, wouldn't they? |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 I have answers to all these, they are decent questions, with rather reasonable answers. But I need a lil break. Time for some music. |
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| Originally posted by Lira We can resume our discussion tomorrow |
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| Originally posted by couch-potato You look forward to that? |
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| Originally posted by couch-potato You look forward to that? |
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| Originally posted by Lira I'm trying to understand the way he thinks and why he's come to the conclusions he's telling us about. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, seriously lira. i cant fucking stand these self-styled intellectuals who think regurgitating stupid websites makes them an independent thinker. the very fact a person believes these things is conclusive proof that they cannot be reasoned with. its not just one topic they might be a little misguided in, its everything they hold dear. he's pretty much parroted every single conspiracy theory i've ever heard of, and even introduced me to a new one (big business spreads the cancer virus). why bother? |
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| Originally posted by floyd741 Fuck morality, whatever advances our understanding and use of science is a good thing in my opinion. |
There's plentiful diseases where the causes are due to genetic mutation(s). So understanding, explaining, predicting, and controlling these mutations (i.e. fucking with genes) is necessary to find cures.
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN because he's a fucking nutjob, lira. a fucking nutjob. |
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