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Originally posted by Yohan sorry, but i find this funny you don't think you're paranoid, but you feel awkward around cops? cops are suppose to watch people. that's their job in this security thing. if you aren't doing anything wrong, why should it bother you that cops are watching you? taking pics... not a good idea at any of these security things as someone might mistaken you for shit disturber getting intelligence to plan an attack or something

lol okie dokie ~ just sharing my experience (which has been similar to others I have spoken to....)

Hunny I don't feel awkward around cops - I was with one for awhile.... I do feel awkward when (two weeks prior to the event that is necessitating their presence), a familiar neighborhood is teeming with law enforcement, police vans are slowing down while driving by me and, cops are turning their heads to watch people as they walk by. It's not exactly something I've experienced before.... It looks like something out of a movie.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie What were you wearing?

lol

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Originally posted by Jennifer_P_ really... based on my experiences last week - and I don't believe myself to have issues with paranoia . Cops were indeed watching me and everyone around. For sure there are groups just hanging out but I saw many police cars and vans driving around slowly - saw many police just standing and staring. I wanted to take some pictures of the fences but every time I pulled out my phone to snap a shot - a cop would give me a look and I just felt to weird to take it.

funny you say this.. i got harassed by a cop last week for taking a picture. He demanded i give him my camera. I asked if i was under arrest and walked away. This was in a public place.

This had nothing to do with G20 btw. with Cops are getting more and more nervy around here.

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Originally posted by Yohan sorry, but i find this funny cops are suppose to watch people. that's their job in this security thing. if you aren't doing anything wrong, why should it bother you that cops are watching you?

do you think that its capable of anyone to follow the law 100 percent of the time? if you are constantly being watched, eventually u are going to slip up and have to pay the piper. Thats the whole point of a police state:

And ironically enough, you even give us exhibit A as to why and how being watched can automatically turn a good citizen into a criminal:

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taking pics... not a good idea at any of these security things as someone might mistaken you for shit disturber getting intelligence to plan an attack or something

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Originally posted by Jennifer_P_ I wanted to take some pictures of the fences but every time I pulled out my phone to snap a shot - a cop would give me a look and I just felt to weird to take it.

It is your given right to take pictures. Yohan, yes you could be planning something, but what about the million and one media staff with cameras? Cops accusing you of 'planning an attack' is just fear mongering, and I would stand up for my right to take a picture of anything I want.

The TTC tried the same bullshit on me after the London bombings. I took out my camera it take a picture of a crowded platform due to a late train. One of the supervisors said, that I wasn't allowed to take pics, when I asked why, he replied "because of what happened in London, hello". I quickly threw the TTC's own by-law at him, which allows private citizens to take picture for non-commercial use without a permit, non of which mentioned anything about terrorism.

If you are not doing anything wrong stand firm. This summit is not an excuse for idiot meat head cops to trample on a citizen's rights.

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Originally posted by Orko If you are not doing anything wrong stand firm. This summit is not an excuse for idiot meat head cops to trample on a citizen's rights.

this goes for the summit or any other time. Know your rights. Everytime the cops try to bully, i let them know that i know my rights. Although im sure one day im gonna end up taking the Cherry Beach express.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 funny you say this.. i got harassed by a cop last week for taking a picture. He demanded i give him my camera. I asked if i was under arrest and walked away. This was in a public place. This had nothing to do with G20 btw. with Cops are getting more and more nervy around here.

A frat brother of mine who's a cop in TO once told me on a personal level that they don't like strangers taking unwanted pictures of them as much as you and I. They're human after all. In this scenario, they have no idea who the taker is or why. Cops through their badge numbers are traceable, and like you and I... if a stranger takes a picture of you, and you don't know their motive, then have your name, and may be able to find your home, and this person is a 'peaceful protester (and we all know just how peaceful they are )', then yeah I'd be worried about my family too. Not an easy job for them. Not all cops are assholes.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie A frat brother of mine who's a cop in TO once told me on a personal level that they don't like strangers taking unwanted pictures of them as much as you and I. They're human after all. In this scenario, they have no idea who the taker is or why. Cops through their badge numbers are traceable, and like you and I... if a stranger takes a picture of you, and you don't know their motive, then have your name, and may be able to find your home, and this person is a 'peaceful protester (and we all know just how peaceful they are )', then yeah I'd be worried about my family too. Not an easy job for them. Not all cops are assholes.

there were no cops in my picture. it was a photo of a banged up car that had been in an accident (with no cops around until i took the picture and he comes running over).

As for taking pics of cops, they may not like it but its part of their job. Just like how the public gets filmed and photographed by cops routinely. You can take a pic of them legally and they cant do anything about it although im sure they will try their lovely intimidation tactics to convince you otherwise.

From the National Post today;


These protesters deserve a good beat-down by the grammar police.

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Originally posted by Skipper EVERYWHERE!

well. not everyone. i have not seen one cop. so not everywhere.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie From the National Post today; These protesters deserve a good beat-down by the grammar police.

my first thought too. I laughed out loud.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie From the National Post today; These protesters deserve a good beat-down by the grammar police.

lol I took this photo last week at yonge and dundas

meh. if cops were being dicks about pics during an event, say stanley cup parade, i'd be the one mocking the cops

G20 summit... enough loonies out there to try something. funny thing is, you can easily plan attacks merely using Google Earth for maps and satellite images. and no way in hell there are enough cops to stop everyone from taking pics

well, you never know. if something does happen at G20, just how many people are going to blame the cops and security people for not being vigilant enough?

no one claims that a cop's job is easy. But trampling on citizen rights in order to take shortcuts and using intimidation, and the ignorance of the populace to do it is not right.

The reason most people dont know their rights is that they are never taught them. Also, its very difficult to know the law since its written in legalese and tucked away behind a lot of fluff. This is all done for a reason.

Craig Balish, of AAA Army Surplus in Baldwin Street, models the Canadian version of the $90 gas masks they are selling. (June 21, 2010)

http://www.thestar.com/business/art...uck-off-the-g20

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Ike Geist is the owner of an army surplus store on Baldwin St. in Kensington Market. During the past five weeks gas mask sales have jumped from 15 to 20 a week to as many as 100, said Geist.

This is going to be good :P

Apparently this is what the security passes look like LMAO Graphic Designer fail.



A blogTO reader sent us this photo of his G20 security pass the other day, which reveals that world leaders congregating in Toronto have every reason to fear for their safety. There are grave problems with the security credentials that have been issued to residents within the safety zone. Problems that may see impostors from "Ontairo" freely enter the protected area.

Well, not really. But somebody's been a bit sloppy. In light of the massive sum allocated to protect the delegates and fortify the downtown core (not to mention the fake lake fiasco), you'd expect that organizers would be able to spell Ontario.

Or, might it be that the budget has gotten so out of hand that typos like this are left to stand?

Either way, the hallmark of any successful security effort is attention to detail. And on that account, this little mistake is anything but an auspicious sign.

SOURCE

Not that people don't know about this, but this article makes a lot of sense

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article1615422/

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Why the G20 protesters won�t condemn violence The fact is that activists find the violent fringe useful

peter mansbridge is watching you.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/tryhan.../in/pool-blogto

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Craig Balish, of AAA Army Surplus in Baldwin Street, models the Canadian version of the $90 gas masks they are selling. (June 21, 2010) http://www.thestar.com/business/art...uck-off-the-g20 This is going to be good :P

Got to be prepared. One thing... the filters for those things don't come cheap from what I hear.

I am surprised he didn't want to take a picture next to some kevlar vests lol

Anyways... it was nice to see pictures of Marine One flying over Toronto.

Anyone remember this movie... (slightly off topic)



Now add this whole CSIS remarks about how we are being influenced by outside entities.

Canada under the influence of foreign powers



It should make for an interesting G20.

http://twitter.com/G20Security

"Fencing isn't a sport; it's a precaution"

lololol

yey! finally saw cops. cops on bikes .

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Originally posted by Dior Homme Apparently this is what the security passes look like LMAO Graphic Designer fail. A blogTO reader sent us this photo of his G20 security pass the other day, which reveals that world leaders congregating in Toronto have every reason to fear for their safety. There are grave problems with the security credentials that have been issued to residents within the safety zone. Problems that may see impostors from "Ontairo" freely enter the protected area. Well, not really. But somebody's been a bit sloppy. In light of the massive sum allocated to protect the delegates and fortify the downtown core (not to mention the fake lake fiasco), you'd expect that organizers would be able to spell Ontario. Or, might it be that the budget has gotten so out of hand that typos like this are left to stand? Either way, the hallmark of any successful security effort is attention to detail. And on that account, this little mistake is anything but an auspicious sign. SOURCE

That's interesting. I have one of these cards, however it says my office address, and then on the next line - "Toronto, ON" just like you would write it as part of a mailing address.

The cards do seem filmsy, however, they come with another small card and must be used with photo ID so that your name and office location or whatever your reason for access is can be cross checked against a master list.

Is the fence fully closed off now with specific access points?

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Originally posted by Yohan Not that people don't know about this, but this article makes a lot of sense http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article1615422/

The protesters will be as peaceful as the ones on the flotilla.

Stupid meat head cops. Fuck, all they are doing is standing around talking to each other. I saw a bunch just standing texting.

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Originally posted by Orko Stupid meat head cops. Fuck, all they are doing is standing around talking to each other. I saw a bunch just standing texting.

Give them something to do like throw a rock or something.

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