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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer Shit Harper Did crappy site.  |
I honestly wish there was an option on the ballot to vote for a monkey.
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard Fixed. Seriously... the first "look how evil Harper is" I got was a blerb about how crazy his particular brand of Christianity is... the implication being that if he believes these things then he should be feared. The second "look how evil Harper is" I got was a blerb about cutting aid to impoverished nations giving particular note to how this is inconsistant with him being a Christian. Ultimately, the two combined told me that although Harper's church may believe certain things to be true he does not govern by his church's teachings; subsequently, I have now been led to believe that Harper puts what he believes to be in the best interest of the country ahead of his personal beliefs... this seems to be a desirable attribute for a potential leader to have, no? Don't get me wrong; I'm not a conservative partisan, just pointing out that the site is flawed by inconsistancy. If one has even the slightest ability to think critically then they should disregard this type of negative advertising based on partial information crafted to ellicit a knee jerk reaction using only rhetoric and lacking substance. |
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| Originally posted by infinity HiGH I honestly wish there was an option on the ballot to vote for a monkey. |
I meant literally a monkey, not figuratively 
Following my friend's plan - if it's close in my riding (which is won't be - Mario Silva seems to be a perpetual lock in this largely Portuguese 'hood), vote Liberal. If not, vote Green.
Reform Party (which is all today's Conservative Party is) politics have got to go. By and large, I don't like American policy (mass deregulation, corporate lobbying, etc.) and I don't want it in this country.
Elections Canada rejects Tory bid to quash student votes
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Elections Canada rejects Tory bid to quash student votes Published On Fri Apr 15 2011 Allan Woods Ottawa Bureau THORNHILL�All party leaders are urging voters � especially young voters � to turn out in droves to cast a ballot on May 2. But only one party appears to have an interest in driving down the participation of 18-to-24-year-olds in this campaign, says an expert on youth voting patterns. And now the Conservative Party is facing an allegation of election tampering after trying to have 700 votes cast by students earlier this week at the University of Guelph declared null and void. The Tories say that the advance voting station � an initiative specifically designed to increase young voters� participation in this campaign � was not authorized by Elections Canada and was littered with opposition party campaign material. The Liberals say officials with Guelph Conservative candidate Marty Burke illegally filmed voters and then tried to snatch away the ballot box, a great big election no-no. �Our concern is simply that the rules for advance polling, that all the rules of the election be respected and that is our sole concern,� said Conservative Leader Stephen Harper. Elections Canada said in a statement that the on-campus polling station, where normally strict voting rules are more relaxed, was the work of a �well-intentioned returning officer� who organized a sanctioned but not pre-authorized vote. They won�t be holding anymore advanced balloting at the university in the future, but all of the votes cast will be considered valid. In a riding where the Tories lost to the Liberals by just 1,792 votes in the 2008 election, those 700 votes matter. In the dozens of other ridings across the country where the vote count will be equally tight, experts say the Tory campaign is trying to drive down the participation of those who can be expected to vote for other parties. That effort has been backed up by Harper�s stump speech, which complains about an unnecessary election that nobody wants. �When you say something like that, the people who are core committed voters will still, of course, turn out but people who are on the fence are more likely to stay home,� said Paul Howe, a political science professor at the University of New Brunswick. �We know from the numbers that older people are much more the committed voters and younger people are less committed, and so clearly it works to the Conservatives� advantage because their support is concentrated among older people.� The NDP is a traditional favourite of young voters, while the Liberals are specifically targeting youth with a post-secondary education subsidy they�ve made a centrepiece of their platform. The Bloc Qu�b�cois as well launched a section of their platform specifically targeting the young on Friday. �I have been saying, �Let�s get more students involved, let�s not suppress the vote and let�s make respect for democracy a central part of what we expect from a prime minister,� Ignatieff said Friday at a campaign stop in Ottawa. NDP Leader Jack Layton called for an investigation into Tory �intimidation and harassment.� �We must encourage youth to vote, not prevent them from voting,� he said in Montreal. Howe, an expert on youth voting patterns, noted that just 37.4 per cent of Canadians aged 18 to 24 participated in 2008, and there is a specific risk that those same eligible young voters will miss their chance this time around. The university school year is ending just as politicians head into the home stretch of the campaign. �That�s definitely going to hurt,� Howe said. The newest phenomenon in the 41st general election is the so-called Vote Mob � flocks of students dressed in red and white, sometimes draped literally in the Canadian flag � who show up at campaign events with the express purpose of boosting voter turnout, specifically among youth. The Tories initially considered members of this group hostile and turned away several who attempted to attend Harper�s rallies. But after the lack of public access to Conservative events became one of the central issues of the campaign in Week 2, party officials admitted a dozen members of a Vote Mob into a rally in Hamilton. They listened attentively and later met privately with Harper, an encounter the Conservative leader�s press secretary promptly noted on Twitter. �We are all concerned about the gradual fall we�re seeing in voting rates,� Harper said Friday. �Sometimes I know for ordinary people it�s off-putting but let�s remember that at its heart we have the right (to vote) in this country that our ancestors fought for � People around the world continue to fight for that right. So I encourage everyone to consider it importantly and to exercise it.� With files from Richard J. Brennan and Joanna Smith |
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| Originally posted by PivotTechno I don't like American policy (mass deregulation, corporate lobbying, etc.) and I don't want it in this country. |
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| Originally posted by PivotTechno Reform Party (which is all today's Conservative Party is) politics have got to go. By and large, I don't like American policy (mass deregulation, corporate lobbying, etc.) and I don't want it in this country. |
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| Originally posted by PivotTechno By and large, I don't like American policy (mass deregulation, corporate lobbying, etc.) and I don't want it in this country. |
I agree with you guys re: american-style policy.
Make sure you are getting the message out to those you talk to - this election what the C's are hoping for is that people don't understand their Reform roots/western right-wing idealogy, or just don't give a shit to vote.
They market themselves as soft-c but a majority will give them carte blanche to start the real idealogical policy shifts which are expected of them from their grassroots core supporters.
And starting soon (next week is it?) they are going to have Fox News-North (Sun Media TV) to further spew Op-Ed branded as "news".
I don't care about strategic voting, I don't care too much about Ignatieff (but, he is not a bad guy by any means)... there is a chance that if Harper is denied the majority again, the clock might run out on him within the party.
Re: Canadian Federal Elections 2011 - Official Thread
In terms of domestic issues, no one addressing the real problem hanging above this country, which is the increasing wealth gap. Our tax system wasn't designed for such a globalized economy.
Well, i think since there is no good choices in the major 2, then strategic vote for NDP or GREEN. These people need to learn that they have to work with each other and respect each other. I'd love to see another party rise up. Last thing we need is Democrat Vs Republican idiocy from USA.
Poll still holding true....
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I am going to laugh if there is another minority government. It will be a waste of millions of tax dollars.
Time to change the system. It doesn't make sense that you can have 4 elections in like 7 years. In the same time period the US has 2 in 8 years.
In another story, I heard some people want to cut funding to the health sector for 5 years.
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| Originally posted by jester I am going to laugh if there is another minority government. It will be a waste of millions of tax dollars. Time to change the system. It doesn't make sense that you can have 4 elections in like 7 years. In the same time period the US has 2 in 8 years. In another story, I heard some people want to cut funding to the health sector for 5 years. |
I would not be looking at US as an example in politics
This whole "democracy/capitalism" system is a peace of crap, and it's too bad it's the best humanity was able to develop so far.
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| Originally posted by jester I am going to laugh if there is another minority government. It will be a waste of millions of tax dollars. Time to change the system. It doesn't make sense that you can have 4 elections in like 7 years. In the same time period the US has 2 in 8 years. In another story, I heard some people want to cut funding to the health sector for 5 years. |
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/0...-liberals-poll/
Tories hit home stretch with 12-point lead over Liberals: poll
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| Originally posted by Yohan http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/0...-liberals-poll/ Tories hit home stretch with 12-point lead over Liberals: poll |
Assuming you'd like to prevent the PCs from obtaining a majority government, here's how to check whether it's worth it to vote strategically in your riding on May 2:
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Our riding is Davenport. Mario Silva is pretty much a lock, which is good, because I otherwise would not have voted for him. Accounts have him largely absent from Parliament, evidently having the time to work on a doctorate degree while being paid to be an MP and displaying generally asshole-ish, self-entitled arrogance when in attendance at public meetings and candidate debates.
At least I now get to vote Green with a clear conscience.
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| Liberals call for probe into Tory G8 spending The Liberal Party is calling for an investigation into the Conservative government spending of money meant for border infrastructure on G8 legacy projects hundreds of kilometres away. In a letter written to the director of public prosecutions, the Liberals allege that $40.5 million authorized by Parliament for the Border Infrastructure Fund was misappropriated without Parliament�s knowledge, and claim the government may have broken the law. "It has come to my attention that the actions of one or more Ministers of the Crown may raise several potentially serious violations of the law for your consideration," Liberal MP Marlene Jennings writes in a letter to Brian Saunders. The letter singles out former minister of infrastructure and current House Leader John Baird and Industry Minister Tony Clement, alleging the two appear to be responsible for the "apparent misappropriation of funds." The Conservatives released a statement Wednesday, dismissing the letter as a "desperation ploy" by the Liberals to "try and change the channel from [Michael] Ignatieff's open musings about a coalition." The party defended the costs relating to the G8/G20 summits, saying they were justified to ensure security of world leaders, adding the party has been transparent about the expenses. "In fact, this level of transparency in disclosing all costs down to the penny involved in hosting summits is unprecedented, in Canada and internationally," party spokesman Ryan Sparrow wrote. Jennings and Liberal candidate Ralph Goodale pointed to government budget documents voted on in the House of Commons last year. Several documents show the House voted to approve nearly $150 million for the Border Infrastructure Fund, with $121,332,454 spent in the 2009-10 fiscal year. But a more detailed breakdown shows $40,569,173 of that money went to G8 legacy projects around Muskoka, Parry Sound and Bracebridge, Ont. "How much more basic does it get? They received legal authority to spend money for the Border Infrastructure Fund. For the border. Not for pet projects in Tony Clement's riding," Jennings said at a press conference Wednesday. "They used money that they were not allowed to use ... and they tried to hide it." Conservative spokesman Sparrow did not respond to a question about the movement of the $40.5 million from the approved fund to a different budget line. The federal auditor general analyzed the $1-billion cost of staging last June's G8 summit in Ontario cottage country and a subsequent gathering of G20 leaders in downtown Toronto. Sheila Fraser's report was due to be tabled in Parliament April 15, but has been delayed by the election. After leaks of early drafts of the report two weeks ago, all parties called on the auditor general to release her final report. Fraser said that is not possible under the law governing her office. |
never voted before and i got a question: is there a "vote against all" option on ballot ?
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| Originally posted by PivotTechno Spoiling your ballot |
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| Originally posted by rulzz never voted before and i got a question: is there a "vote against all" option on ballot ? |
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