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Originally posted by biznology you think that *music* is reality? degrading women in rhyme is the same as reality? i have morals, but im not shitting myself over what some random guy says.

Ok, so degrading women is acceptable as a musical art form, come on, this is stupid... If degrading women is bad, and it is, therefore people who do it on record are setting a bad example and just making a fool of themselves. Eminem is a hate monger, he has no class. If I write a song, I certainly wont degrade women, because it's against my principles.

I guess with this argument, homophobia is acceptable as a musical art form too... Me waits for the hardcore Christian rap song, with the slogan "god hates fags"... But Eminem is exempt from criticism because he is an "artist"... that is the double standard that pisses me off.

I hope someone assassinates Eminem so he can be rid of this hate monger once and for all...

EMINEM IS PURE CHEESE IMHO!

hear,hear!

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originally posted by ALF Eminem has payed his dues. Going into a predominantly black music genre and being able to take down and earn respect from the best of them in the underground hip-hop scene is miraculous. To many avid listeners, making it big in the underground scene gets far greater respect than succeeding in the commercial arena. He's definitely not a "fixed package" by any means. He worked his way from the ground up into what he is now. Some people take his lyrics too personally. It's all entertainment. Music is to entertain. As far as the commercial rap subject goes, all commercial rap sucks balls...anybody that knows hip-hop knows that these bling-bling commercial rappers of today are all in it for the money. That's not what true hip-hop is all about. Stop listening to the radio and turn off MTV. It all lies in the underground. Now is Eminem considered commercial? Yes. But the flipside of it is that he holds his own in the lyrics department (not that he doesn't already, but he's been so much better in the past). You can look at his pre-commercial days and write that up as an integral part of his "resume." I can't think of any rapper alive that has worked their way up to the level of success the way Eminem has. The last good reputable rapper to hit the commercial scene close to Eminem's level was Notorious BIG. Anyone who says otherwise definitely does not know their hip-hop. Much like trance, you can only listen to the best hip-hop if you look for it. Listen to the radio and you will get crap like Nelly and Cash Money Millionaires. That's bullshit if you ask me. Hip-hop gets the same rep that trance does...look at DJ Sammy. Is that what good trance really is? Cheese? It's not, but because of its exposure, that's what people perceive trance as; a cheesy catchy "techno" tune with female vocals. For some people, listening to lyrics, let alone learning to hear the genius of a good lyricist, is difficult, much like listening to a trance song with repetitive beats and no singing. With any type of music, you learn to like it. -ALF - loves trance and hip-hop equally

*gives ALF a standing ovation*

I don't dig his music but I listened to him live and he definately rulez when you see him live

ALF: great writing

I'm not gonna read all this thread, I'll just add a quick note

if any of you have seen an interview with em you will know that all he is out to do is provoke you, and make you think and talk about him

so all of you wether you like him or not have been played by him, as you seem to feel passionatly enough about him to get a thread this size at a trance forum, he has suceeded at what he set out to do, prolly more so than he had ever planned

he ha no doubt succeed to get an audience.. but his damn attitude.. could be happy for all those awards...

yikes .. another "blast from the past" thread .. who is reviving all these old threads?

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Originally posted by biznology you think that *music* is reality? as for your 'dumbass' claim, i never said that word... i LOVE how people make shit up on this board. just cause you think that eminem is a fucking asshole doesnt mean that his music is bad, or even that he is bad as a person.

Music is reality in one way... Because all the little kids look up to him and such and become him. And the dumbass comment, Is basically what you called me, But in nicer words, I guess I should have quoted you. Sorry. Eminem is a very bad person. He has never done anything good. And he is the biggest hypocryt ever... And if you want to say
"i LOVE how people make shit up on this board. just cause you think that eminem is a fucking asshole doesnt mean that his music is bad, or even that he is bad as a person." Again, I will answer you nicely why\how he is.

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