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Posted by MSZ on Dec-23-2012 18:48:

Seen it, I liked it a lot, but there wasnt enough...depth? for me to make me love it. This would be a killer on-going series, HBO style.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-23-2012 19:56:

Yeah, the measured visual style is part of what feels like an '80s throwback, where action films were filled with ponderous, muscular heroes steadily gunning down hordes of enemies. The arrival first of John Woo balletic choreography and then of late '90s shakey cam freshened up the visual style of action movies, but it's nice to get away from rapid editing and overly-busy shots.


Posted by Lagrangian on Dec-23-2012 21:59:

so this and batman are on my to-do list for the holidays, i love you guise.


Posted by itsamemario on Dec-24-2012 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Seen it, I liked it a lot, but there wasnt enough...depth? for me to make me love it. This would be a killer on-going series, HBO style.


What the hell are you talking about not enough depth? It was 3D for fucks sake! [/Cameron]

Edit: And I would most definitely watch that show. Great call.


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-24-2012 03:28:

Hadn't thought of that. You're right, it'd make a great series.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-24-2012 11:14:

The original plan was to make a trilogy, and the simplicity of this film was because it was a simple case of establishing the character and the feel of the universe. The latter films would tackle some of the bigger storylines from the comics, and confront the questionable morality/politics of the Judges. Sadly, it's unlikely those sequels will ever get made, because not enough of you fucks listened to me and went to see it.


Posted by Lagrangian on Dec-24-2012 11:41:



Fucking fucks


Posted by itsamemario on Dec-26-2012 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The original plan was to make a trilogy, and the simplicity of this film was because it was a simple case of establishing the character and the feel of the universe. The latter films would tackle some of the bigger storylines from the comics, and confront the questionable morality/politics of the Judges. Sadly, it's unlikely those sequels will ever get made, because not enough of you fucks listened to me and went to see it.


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-26-2012 03:47:

Fuck you you fucking fuck, I paid to see it in 3D and told everyone to do likewise

I'm not surprised it didn't do well, they had a hard sell with a remake of a film not many people liked in the first place.


Posted by Redd on Dec-26-2012 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by WittyHandle
I'm not surprised it didn't do well, they had a hard sell with a remake of a film not many people liked in the first place.


remake of what?


Posted by Sushipunk on Dec-27-2012 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
remake of what?


Judge Dredd?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-27-2012 00:07:

It isn't a remake of Judge Dredd anymore than Batman Begins was a remake of Tim Burton's film. It's a separate adaptation of the comic. However, WittyHandle illustrates a basic problem with the Judge Dredd intellectual property: it isn't actually very well known, and so doesn't have the ready-made fanbase of more famous comics/graphic novels/sequential art/pretentious picture wank, thus harming its box office chances.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-27-2012 00:12:

i want the dialogue track so bad. His lines are great. Even Robo cop had more emotion in the voice.

I thought it was ok. I feel like the production style was somewhat dated given the setting. Thankfully only a few slowmo edits. Would of been cool to get a better idea of the world they live in but not much is said.

What was it rated ? i felt like they were holding back on the violence for some reason.

Was ok for me.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-27-2012 00:27:

Huh? By modern PG-13 action standards, the film is very violent. There's a scene about 15 minutes in where pulped brains fall out of the shattered skull of a skinned corpse, and you think this film is holding back? Without straying into the realms of horror/splatter, I'm not sure how much more violent this film could have been.

Not really sure what you mean by "dated" production style, either. The "dystopian future metropolis" setting has been done a lot in the last 30 years of science fiction, but given the Judge Dredd comics were canonical texts for ushering that trope into the genre it would be incongruous to dispense with it. I think the film's look does a nice job of rendering the sprawl, but as opposed to the rain-soaked neon-noir [sic] of Bladerunner and its imitators, the look is brighter, more open and more obviously grimey and cobbled together, blending in shades of post-apocalyptic desert imagery, which is fitting given the context. Mega City One is a glorified shanty town hammered together from "the ruins of the old world". To expect it to look sleek and shiny is completely missing the point.


Posted by Watts on Dec-27-2012 00:42:

I don't like watching movies, but I actually went to go see it a while back because of this thread.

I liked it a lot. It was probably one of the few films I've seen recently that I wouldn't mind watching again.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-27-2012 00:44:

well there you go. PG 13 for a world that is consumed by drugs and violence is kinda hard to narrate.

They should of mated it R. That would of made it better. Way better.

I found the production just normal. The acting is normal. Everything is kinda normal and production is usually something you tend to focus on when that is the case. Those slow edits were painful to watch tho.

Anyways enough with the bad, his voice and script was worth the price of the torrent alone.


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-27-2012 06:53:

Looney, you're a smart guy. You know that they made it PG-13 to hit the sweet spot audience-wise, not because it would be the most true to the content. You also know that this decision is not made by the people who care about the film the most. I hear you on the slo-mo. Generally it's overdone, but I found it so vivid in this that it overcame its cliche usage in other films. It stood out for me. The acting is normal, you're right. Dredd himself is so one dimensional but that really works in this case I think. I dunno, I saw it in the theater with very little knowledge of it beforehand. I've never even seen the original. I just really enjoyed it when I saw it, and that's pretty hard to come by for me. I just DL'd it, and I probs won't enjoy it as much the 2nd time around, but I really think a lot of people who wrote it off would enjoy it more then they might have expected, and that's the only reason I'm putting in the effort here to bring it to their attention.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Dec-27-2012 11:46:

Uh....what are you all talking about? It WAS rated R: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727...e#certification If anything, I'd say THAT was the reason it didn't recoup its budget. After all, you're trying to sell a comic book based, R-rated movie from a far less well known franchise than anything out of the Marvel/DC universe to a non-PG audience.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-27-2012 11:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
well there you go. PG 13 for a world that is consumed by drugs and violence is kinda hard to narrate.

They should of mated it R. That would of made it better. Way better.


It is an R. 18 in the UK. I wasn't very clear, but I meant that it's now standard for action films to strip the blood, sex and profanity down to get a more profitable PG-13 rating, whereas Dredd didn't. So compared to the market, it's pretty all-out. Again, no idea what you think it's "holding back on".

And thanks for that detailed clarification of your thoughts on the production style. "Just normal". I sincerely hope you put more thought into films when you come to score them.


Posted by Redd on Dec-27-2012 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
They should of mated it R. That would of made it better.



Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-27-2012 15:18:

I never even knew the rating. Now I feel teh dumbz after my post


Posted by Chris Crossland on Dec-28-2012 03:30:

I'd like to poke Olivia Thirlby.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Dec-28-2012 20:17:

Just wanted to share this since I mentioned it before.

Dredd's editing isn't as slow as I thought. The average shot length is 3.7 seconds, which can still be considered conventional when compared to mainstream comic book adaptations (Iron Man - 3.7, Thor - 3.2, The Dark Knight - 3.1, Superman Returns - 3.1).



The action just feels slow. Characters hardly run and there aren't any real chases. At times there is a general sense of busyness, but not of movement. Most of the dialogue is also edited relatively fast with plenty of reaction shots. The pace of the film is quite steady.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-28-2012 20:51:

There are a few heavily stylised "MTV" segments - the rapid montage for the rise or Ma-Ma and the psionic duel between Anderson and Kay, not to mention the CCTV views that act almost as establishing shots - but the bulk of the action (from memory) is staged and edited in a pretty no-nonsense, retro style.


Posted by Blue Neptune on Dec-30-2012 05:28:

this guy


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