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Originally posted by Eugene Conclusion of the discussion: GERMANY RULES Thread closed

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Originally posted by Eugene Conclusion of the discussion: GERMANY RULES Thread closed

Thread most def NOT closed, lol.

Eugene, please expand on your post, convince me Germany Rules


btw, i'll post some feedback on ur mix real soon, been a bit short of time these last couple of days.

your on crack tranceseeker

Germany kicks the piss out of the UK for Trance DJs and also for trance produced....UK is more the shitty genre...progressive house.

Nothing against the U.K. in particular, but their DJs and producers styles are typically not as energetic, and thereby interesting, as those of Germany IMO. Even if the U.K. does have a stronger trance scene, it's close, and therefore the assertion that the U.K. "ownz the whole trance community" is clearly an exaggeration, at best. Truth value == false. M'kay?

Cheers,

Arbiter

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Arbiter Nothing against the U.K. in particular, but their DJs and producers styles are typically not as energetic, and thereby interesting, as those of Germany IMO. Even if the U.K. does have a stronger trance scene, it's close, and therefore the assertion that the U.K. "ownz the whole trance community" is clearly an exaggeration, at best. Truth value == false. M'kay?

now thats what im talkin about, UK is for progresive, if u want good trance and hardcore than GERMAN Dj's are the best.

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Originally posted by InfiniteSquare Germany kicks the piss out of the UK for Trance DJs and also for trance produced....UK is more the shitty genre...progressive house.

See this kinda post annoys me, because u clearly know nothing about the uk scene.

Why do people seem to think we have a load of prog djs, i could name a lot more trance djs thna prog house djs!

When u make a stupid comment like this atleast back it up. Please name me all these prog house djs

Well, never knew there was a competition between countries , just enjoy the music. You can't say wich country is the best cause everybody has its own taste. If you like it a little bit harder you probebly prefer Germany...and so on

And for fuck sake if anyone replies next time READ EVERYTHING plz.
If u read everything then u would have known that I'm talking about the dj-ing (u know the man who spins some black plates on a machine) and not the tunes that come from a certain country...

Do I really have to say Global Underground?
The worst compilations on the planet...
All the essential mixes (how many already?), all organised by the UK, and 80% of the ess mixes are UK dj's (well I dunno 80% just guessing but it won't be far away from that).
Well let Armin come with his asot vs radio 1 essential mixes.
Do U feel the difference?

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker And for fuck sake if anyone replies next time READ EVERYTHING plz. If u read everything then u would have known that I'm talking about the dj-ing (u know the man who spins some black plates on a machine) and not the tunes that come from a certain country... Do I really have to say Global Underground? The worst compilations on the planet... All the essential mixes (how many already?), all organised by the UK, and 80% of the ess mixes are UK dj's (well I dunno 80% just guessing but it won't be far away from that). Well let Armin come with his asot vs radio 1 essential mixes. Do U feel the difference?

Calm down mate. I dont think you would fancy reading all 14 pages or woteva.

Chill bro

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Originally posted by Wicked Neo Thread most def NOT closed, lol. Eugene, please expand on your post, convince me Germany Rules btw, i'll post some feedback on ur mix real soon, been a bit short of time these last couple of days.

Well, let's define what we're talking about here.
If we're talking about "Trance" per se, then I think there is no question that Germany rules, given the amount and quality of vinyl produced there on a daily basis. BTW, a lot of this music is never discussed here; it's overshadowed by the more overhyped productions by the likes of M.I.K.E. and Armin. Have you heard Martin Eyrer's productions/remixes? How about Talla 2XLC, his productions and mixes? If you want me to give you a complete list of what I consider quality German trance, then I will come up with one, and I'm sure it'll be much bigger than the English or Dutch equivalents!

But I want to say that I agree with Vesa. Have you read his post, on Page 9? A lot of our pre-conceptions about Trance are false. Read his post -- it's the best in this whole thread.

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TranceSeeker, your very first post was so bad that I'll analyze it line by line...

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Sasha & Digweed

They spin Progressive House, not Trance. They hate Trance and even avoid this word at all costs.

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Paul Oakenfold

Oakenfold had a very limited Trance period, only around 98/99 -- and even when he released "Tranceport," everybody trashed him for "selling out." He has devoted a lot more of his career to House.

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And they spin quality trance, not the cheesy shit like Ferry, Armin, Gielen etc.....pump out of their turntables

Rarely do I find such stupid stereotypes posted. But this is undisputably one of them.

FIRST: Ferry, Armin, Tiesto do NOT spin Uplifting Trance (which I presume you mean when you say "cheesy shit"); listen to one of their sets, and then post. They've all switched a long time ago

SECOND: Uplifting Trance is NOT "cheesy shit," and I will NOT have you diss my and other people's favorite genre! No, we're not less intelligent than you, trust me -- we prefer good melodies in our music, we like to have a good time, and we enjoy good music and good life! Therefore, stop this arrogant attitude NOW!

THIRD: You're a fan of M.I.K.E. What about his tunes like "Please Save Me" and "Strange World"? Are they "cheesy shit" too?

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Originally posted by Eugene FIRST: Ferry, Armin, Tiesto do NOT spin Uplifting Trance (which I presume you mean when you say "cheesy shit"); listen to one of their sets, and then post. They've all switched a long time ago

Wot do they spin then?

Coz armin and ferry still spin uplifting and epic trance. Ferry even plays a bit of hard trance.

We could have a discussion about sub genres all day.

I have seen armin, ferry and tiesto spin live many times, so i know wot im talking about

But i would say armin spins mainly uplifting trance, ferry more epic trance and tiesto, well atm not really sure, he goes from prog trance to techno to uplifting, to all over the place.

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Originally posted by Eugene FIRST: Ferry, Armin, Tiesto do NOT spin Uplifting Trance (which I presume you mean when you say "cheesy shit"); listen to one of their sets, and then post. They've all switched a long time ago

erm..

First: If you dont consider tracks spun by ferry and armin to be uplifting, then id like to hear ur defintion of uplifting

Second: ok ive just listened to one of there sets.. Nitromethane- Time to die (Seraque remix), Pulser - Cloudwalking, Prime Mover - The Weapon. U still wanna tell me these guys dont spin uplifting? Shall i list more?

Third: Strange World aint cheese. Overplayed? maybe. Cheese? no. If you think cheese and uplifting are the same then thats pretty dumb.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If you think cheese and uplifting are the same then thats pretty dumb.

I agree with you completely, but TranceSeeker obviously doesn't make that distinction! For him, it's either prog or "cheesy shit."

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Originally posted by Eugene I agree with you completely, but TranceSeeker obviously doesn't make that distinction! For him, it's either prog or "cheesy shit."

LOL

U have just contredicted yourself.

Dont post bullshit, coz there r some members who do know about trance on here!

As far as I am concered all you guys in Europe are lucky fukers. In Canada we only have Max Graham and he doesn't even live here.



Europe owns the whole electronic scene

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Originally posted by jesten As far as I am concered all you guys in Europe are lucky fukers. In Canada we only have Max Graham and he doesn't even live here. Europe owns the whole electronic scene

Yeah i hear about people from outside europe saying they only get big named djs like once or twice a year

I feel lucky that i have a choice of 5 or 6 top clubs with so mnay top names withing a few hours of where i live

Like friday night i could have gone and seen ferry, fergie, john 00 fleming and a few others @ godskitchen, M.I.K.E @ peach, talla @ frisky or picotto @ gatecrasher @ heaven

No way, it's all about Canada baby! =)

...I don't really give a shit...I just love Trance

Just enjoy the music..

Edit: I read up to page 9, and just got tired after the flaming, and worked backwords.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike woa there buddy.. u back track any further u'll go thru the wall

Yeah, back tracking from the words YOU put in his mouth...

Europe ownz

Anyhow..I wonder what clubbing will be like in the States (or Canada, for that matter). Remember the movie "Go"? They're going to this Rave..which seems so incredibly cool! All these weird people dancing, being totally fucked..haha..just like the old days in Holland!! And also movies with clubs in them. I think the house-music they use in these movies is very "vaag" as we say. That means I can't really place it..I can't think of a label for it. It sounds very underground..for example the movie "Swordfish". I know the music has been done by oakey, so it should sound familiar, but still it sounds very "exotic" to me. I wonder if I would find this kind of "exotic-underground" music when I was to go to a US rave!

I've been to my first party in South Africa yesterday. Also some weird shit!! They had three areas, one main with funky trance, one open area with other house-music and a goa-area. (at least...it sounded goa heh). There were about 100 people, although they would have had space for 1000! And half of them were totally fucked and the rest seemed to be in a natural trance. These kind of audiences still feel so "real"! Not like the audience in Holland, which consists of farmerboys (boeren), horny chicks, old people and kids. And a few TAs ofcourse I had a blast, as you can imagine

Anyway..my point is....hmmm (scratches head)...I think every scene has positive points

I love the massive parties in Holland (and UK and Germany ofcourse)..but I also love small underground parties. I love Uk djs, but that doesn't mean I don't love german or dutch djs! etc

Producers = Holland /UK
DJ's = UK / Germany
Crowd = UK (best in the world by far )

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Originally posted by Arbiter Yeah, back tracking from the words YOU put in his mouth...

Read all the posts, and than go edit that post, coz clearly u dont no wot the comment is about

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Originally posted by Eugene Oakenfold had a very limited Trance period, only around 98/99 -- and even when he released "Tranceport," everybody trashed him for "selling out." He has devoted a lot more of his career to House.

98/99?

so what kind music was he spinng in 95 then ?

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Originally posted by Technaut 98/99? so what kind music was he spinng in 95 then ?

And what was he spinning when I saw him the other month? Oakie might experiment a lot but he still plays trance the majority of the time. He has when I've seen him over the last couple of years anyway

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