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Posted by BreadNut on Jul-09-2004 05:56:

dj course

hi i was wondering about doing a dj course

but is it really worth the money?

i was think of getting equipment first and then if i'm not getting anywhere should i go with the course?

and has anyone done a dj course?

thx


Posted by Trance Nutter on Jul-10-2004 05:20:

This is my opinion as a beginner DJ as well, and other people will probably tell you otherwise, but I also pondered this question about DJ courses.

You gotta decide is DJing gonna be a hobby, or more like a job.
I'm doing it as a hobby, and so going out and getting my name known and pulling gigs is not a priority. As such, I didn't do a course as part of the fun is learning how to do it yourself.
If you are looking at DJing seriously - yeah probably do a course as you will probably be a better DJ quicker, and so you can go out and get sets in clubs earlier and earn some money quicker, which as you will find out real quick, money is essential as this is one real expensive past time.

Becoming a good DJ will take a long time, so if you have the money or you are taking it seriously, why not go do a course, they can't hurt. Whether they actually help or not, I don't know, but the way I see it it depends on your level of committment.


Posted by yayo on Jul-27-2004 02:08:

Dog Running ahh

k lemme start out by saying I know absolutely nothing about DJing... So how hard is it to learn. I barely even know any of the terms and im on a limited budget (im 16...).

I went to guitarcenter and looked at some of their stuff. The guy there suggested I get to Numark Axis 9's with a behringer vx700 for $975. Looked nice, but Thats really expensive. I know Guitarcenter also offers TT-200 (vinyl) for $199 which would be cheaper than $399 each for Axis 9's. I've heard Behringer VX300 is good to start off with.. So what is the best for starting off and on a budget Cd's, or vinyl? I know nothing And what is good equipment to get.

Oh yea forgot to add at a local music store they were selling a turntable that is new that they could sell.. I think it was American Audio TT-200MK I know it was american audio but can't remember the model #.


Posted by Thirteen on Jul-27-2004 03:03:

DJ Lessons

IMHO, DJ Courses are worth it. Unless you are a musical genius it is near impossible to learn all the tricks by yourself. This isn't to say you can't, but you will learn faster if you are taught the basics first. This way you won't develop bad habits and later have to break yourself of them. I would never be where I am today without my teachers. I am still learning and always will be. But I have gotten here by learning from others and teaching myself. If you are serious, by the best gear right away. You will thank yourself later, and you will learn faster, as you won't have to cope with the problems that cheap gear will cause. Secondly if you decide to give up you will have an investment that you can sell, and get some of it back. With cheap gear it is much harder to sell, and sometimes won't last long enough to sell off anyway. This is just my opinion. I have been DJing for 5 years now, and I have been lucky enough to play some amazing gigs. I love it, and would never give it up...

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Posted by audiasis on Jul-28-2004 16:31:

Hey, I'm looking to get myself started as bedroom-dj, so I don't want to spend too much money, now i found this on the website of stanton:
Stanton DJ 101 Pak, here's the link
http://www.stantondj.com/alpha44/load.asp?page=dj101pak
Now i was wondering if this package is good enough to do some basic mixing for me and some friends, or is it just crap?

There's also the spin cycle pak (http://www.stantondj.com/alpha44/lo...ge=spincyclepak), it costs more, and the only difference i can find is that the first one is a belt-drive turntable and the second one is a direct-drive turntable... Can anyone tell me why this is more expensive and probably better?

thanks
Peter


Posted by Rhue on Jul-31-2004 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by liquidmist2001
behringer in general makes quality CRAP....they've gotten really good at mimicing the designs of other mixers, but never have the quality or the electronics of it...the DJX700 is the perfect example...i currently have one and am planning to get rid of it as soon as i get some extra cash...


Although i dont have the DJX700, i have used the Behringer Vmx 300 for three years now and i disagree with the comment regarding behringer as crap. I also own the pioneer djm600 and the americandj qfx-19 mixer. I agree that the design of the behringer is very similar (very!) to that of the pioneer but the quality is not crap. One reason for the low cost is that labour is east europe is far lower than that of its american counterparts (unless ofcourse these iditos paln on making it in China). WHile it may not be top of the line, it is a very reliably mixer and i have put it to a relative amount of abuse for the past three years and it works just fine. Even the features provided on the vmx300 exceed that of other pricey counterparts.

I think it is an excellent choice for newbie users where budget and experience gathering is the main concern...


Posted by Shemeck on Aug-06-2004 09:43:

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Posted by H3lix on Aug-07-2004 04:15:

Can anybody recommend some programs that can do classical instruments?


Posted by tranceaholic on Aug-07-2004 16:13:

okay..so i want to start dj'ing...not professionally or anything but just for fun and something to do in free time..i wanna spin cd's...what will be the full setup i need..include everything plz. and how much will it cost me?

how is this setup for a biginner?

http://www.planetdj.com/expanded_de...ST=Y#MoreDetail

OR

http://topdjgear.com/amaucdsy.html


Posted by D-res on Aug-21-2004 02:15:

i personally have a pretty shitty setup.

i have two numark TT100 turntabls and a gemini PS626 mixer. the mixer is starting to break on me, but its all okay cause i got all that and some vinyls(house ) off ebay for like 134 bucks. i plan on upgrading as soon as i can, but i will most likely have to wait till next summer when i have time to get a job.


Posted by regulate on Aug-30-2004 21:36:

hey fellas, for a while ive been thinking about getting into djing, long story short, ive gotten some money together and bought some records. i know technics is the way to go, but i have some questions.

1.ive seen ebay, should i go used or go for brand new?
2. whats a cartridge and stylus and the other stuff, im clueless on that stuff.
3. whats a good 3 channel mixer for 2TT w/kill switches on them.
4.decent headphones
5. i dont have a music store that sells TT or know anyone that has any, so do othe music stores have some for display?
6. things that should come up money wise: repairs, maitence, how often.
7. what do the lights on the TT for?


thanks.


Posted by DJXTC on Aug-31-2004 19:14:

What I've experienced is hard. I've been DJ'n for almost 6 years...wait it has been 6 years. And I've done house parties, played at bars, and also played at conventions. And an occasional club. But the thing is I really want to get residency. I've tried the Handing out demo thing(which only landed 1 gig), and did the "get to know the promoter and etc." But it seems very difficult. ANyone have any advice for this would really help. Many DJ's I've known who has residency before told me with an awkward look of me not getting any residency. ALso more info about me. I started a DJ crew last year and got house gigs. But I really want club gigs.


Posted by DjVash on Sep-03-2004 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by regulate
hey fellas, for a while ive been thinking about getting into djing, long story short, ive gotten some money together and bought some records. i know technics is the way to go, but i have some questions.

1.ive seen ebay, should i go used or go for brand new?
2. whats a cartridge and stylus and the other stuff, im clueless on that stuff.
3. whats a good 3 channel mixer for 2TT w/kill switches on them.
4.decent headphones
5. i dont have a music store that sells TT or know anyone that has any, so do othe music stores have some for display?
6. things that should come up money wise: repairs, maitence, how often.
7. what do the lights on the TT for?


thanks.

What a shitload of questions. First things first

1. No problem with used gear, as long as you buy quality stuff. You can always pm me for advice.
2. Ortofon Concorde Pro is my favorite, works for most ppl
3. There practically aren't any. First you may tell me what you need the killswitches for.
4. Plenty of stuff. What's your budget? (in euros)
5. Where do you live? USA? Can't help you mate. I can give you some good online Dutch record stores but expect to pay a lot for shippings.
6. If you buy good gear, don't worry about repairs. You only need new styli every now and then.
7. Which one? The red light aimed for the platter is so you can perfectly tell how accurate a turntable is. The white light is so you can see the grooves across the record.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Sep-15-2004 07:49:

hi can somebody give me their thoughts on this set-up im considering as a beginner

2x stanton str830
and a behringer djx400 mixer

if its not good please explain why thanks for all your help guys


Posted by saintjohnson on Sep-21-2004 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by eyeball_2003
hi can somebody give me their thoughts on this set-up im considering as a beginner

2x stanton str830
and a behringer djx400 mixer

if its not good please explain why thanks for all your help guys


this is my first post here, But I've got a behringer, and its starting to fade(after only a year of light bedroom use). My advice is to save your money for a better mixer, pioneer, rane, denon, or vestax. From what I've heard and seen, they are like tanks and wil last you many years.

Stantons I'm not sure about, as I've had no experience with them.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Sep-22-2004 06:56:

quote:
Originally posted by saintjohnson
this is my first post here, But I've got a behringer, and its starting to fade(after only a year of light bedroom use). My advice is to save your money for a better mixer, pioneer, rane, denon, or vestax. From what I've heard and seen, they are like tanks and wil last you many years.

Stantons I'm not sure about, as I've had no experience with them.


thanks v much ill keep that in mind


Posted by Kiragan on Sep-24-2004 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Rhue
Although i dont have the DJX700, i have used the Behringer Vmx 300 for three years now and i disagree with the comment regarding behringer as crap. I also own the pioneer djm600 and the americandj qfx-19 mixer. I agree that the design of the behringer is very similar (very!) to that of the pioneer but the quality is not crap. One reason for the low cost is that labour is east europe is far lower than that of its american counterparts (unless ofcourse these iditos paln on making it in China). WHile it may not be top of the line, it is a very reliably mixer and i have put it to a relative amount of abuse for the past three years and it works just fine. Even the features provided on the vmx300 exceed that of other pricey counterparts.

I think it is an excellent choice for newbie users where budget and experience gathering is the main concern...


I have to agree about the VMX 300. I have not tried any other Behringer products, but my VMX 300 has been going strong for over a year and half of heavy use, including several house parties, and I think the sound is great.

Kiragan


Posted by liquidmist2001 on Sep-24-2004 23:33:

aren't the str8-30s the belt-drive turntables??

stay away from belt-drive turntables as if they were the plague...you will regret buying them the day after...save your money for atleast the str8-80s, or even better yet, save you money for the technics.

also with the stantons, depending on whether or not your mixing trance type stuff or hip-hop, you wanna get either the STR series or the STR8 series, which comes with a straight tone-arm vs. a regular tone-arm. STR8 is better for scratching and stuff, but the conventional tone arms have better tracking.

as for behringer, i didn't know they had a DJX400, i know they have a DJX700 which i currently use, my only problem with the mixer is that i can't use it for too long as it has a slight overheating problem. and even that's not so bad, but the component that is overheating is near the sound output unit, and so sound quality is affected just slightly, but gets annoying. whenever i wanna make a cd, i have to practice the day before and plan the set. then get back the next day and start recording as soon as i get there.

i've had my setup for a almost 6 months now, and as soon as i get another job, i will be saving my first check for a new mixer, cuz i like to mix for more than two hours. i don't get to practice often, but when i make time, i'm usually free for about 4-5 hours at a time...and it get's really annoying when i feel like making a mix and i experiment around with different mixes, and can't make a mix until the next day...


Posted by A.J. on Sep-28-2004 05:31:

hahaha i'm just getting started and i saw this thread. This is my setup so far:

* 2 Technics 1200-MK2 Turntables, used for $1150 (would cost at least $1800 here for new ones)

* Pioneer rp-f500 headphones - my brother is getting them cheap for me in Singapore

* Vestax PMC-17A Mixer used for $140, usually about $400 new

* i still need to get some monitors with built in amps !!!!!

* 8 vinyl so far


I just want to recommend Chemical Records to everyone. I bought 5 classics from them from the UK at an awesome price and they arrived at my door in Australia about 5 days later....brilliant service!

So far i have 8 vinyls. I'm on my way!!!!!!!!


Posted by Radders2003 on Oct-23-2004 23:31:

Hi

Ok i have a bit of money to spend. Not alot. I want some simple dj equipment, just to get me started. Nothing big. I saw a package on some webiste. It included:

Numark tt1625 direct drive turntables
Numark dm950 2 channel mixer
Ion dj monitor active speakers
Numark hf125 headphones
Numark groovetool cartridges & stylus
Slipmats
All connecting leads included
Vinyl file starter kit comprising:
3 of the latest 12" vinyl
Technics bpm chart
Vinyl file starter pack
240 volts



All of this was for �249

It's quite cheap, but also is it worth it? I'm only a beginner DJ and havn't had any realy experiences with decks before. Is this actually a good equipment? They are direct drve, which is good also. They speakers are small but that good enough and 3 vinyl's.

Everything is there for me to get started. I just don't want to spend around �1000 for technics incase i don't like dj-ing (which i will like). What are your opinions? Theere are oter packages up to �1000.

Thanks for any replies possible

cheers


Posted by liquidmist2001 on Oct-24-2004 05:45:

to radders:

piece of advice mate, stay away from that setup...

as you've indicated that you'll probably like DJing, you're gonna want to start with something a whole lot better. i had the same idea when i started...buy some cheap tables to see if i really liked it. but the thing is, you don't get the full experience with crappy equipment. i had bought the same set that you are thinking of buying, and i would definetly not recommend it...

if you can save up a little bit more money, i would recommend buying a pair of numark tt200s with a behringer vmx300 dj mixer. they are a little bit more expensive then that package, but will last you a whole lot longer and you won't be easily phased from your new hobby.

as for the headphones, you can pick which one you like cuz that is the single most important piece of equipment that you will need to get. if you don't have comfortable headphones with good sound quality, you're gonna start hating everything about your setup


Posted by Radders2003 on Oct-24-2004 12:23:

Thanks for your reply.

Ok, i will save up some more money and buy a good setup. I know i will like dj-ing so i will may as well get some good equipment

cheers


Posted by DjVash on Nov-11-2004 19:48:

Mist is right. Anyone buying that stuff will regret it. I've never seen Numark make a decent deck (TT-1 and TT-2 were pretty decent, but way too expensive).


Posted by Basilf1 on Nov-14-2004 01:26:

So would you say that the TT-200's aren't decent. I'm just curious at why exactly.

BasilF1


Posted by Exodus17 on Nov-19-2004 17:38:

Addition to help:

Find a way to record your mixes!

if you can reccord your mixes, you can listen to it afterwards to critique yourself.

if you want to improve your skills, the first thing you will most likely hear is "practice practice practice!" and there isnt an easier way to put it. If you can reccord, improving your skills will be so much easier.

theres a huge difference between the way the audience hears a mix and the way the dj hears it because the dj hears everything they dont like about a mix down to the timing in their beatmatching whereas the audience only hears one track then it fades out or the next track comes in and it all sounds nice, the audience is usually oblivious to minor changes in the sound of certain hi hats or the bass hum of the next track you're throwing in and if theyre not sober (Which usually an audience wont be) they'll think your fuckups are amazing


anways, i dunno how accurate that information is, it varies from person to person, but the idea is that reccording allows you to step back from the decks and hear yourself the way the audience hears you and by doing this you can tell yourself "yea, that was cool, gotta work on getting those down" or "hey, that sounds like ass, what was i thinking?" even "holy shit that was badass! hell yea, practice those!"

you cant improve on something if you dont know whats wrong with it in the first place


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