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Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-19-2009 23:01:

I'm pretty sure the towers they setup have multi or certain bands depending on the areas.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Dec-20-2009 06:18:

It's because the shit that WIND uses requlres 1700MHz as the downstream band, and 2100MHz as the upstream band.


On a side note for some reason only half of my text messages are actually being sent now... I wonder if it's my phone, which has taken some serious unintentional abuse (so thankful for this steel construction), or a Rogers issue? Hm.

Basically I want an excuse to buy a Milestone, I guess


Posted by Ravist on Dec-20-2009 10:49:

has anyone used skype to make calls? im thinking of getting the nokia n900 and using skype to make my calls. I found out to call any landline or cell phone will cost me $35.20 for the entire year! Only downside i see is that I cant use the phone to make emergency calls


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-20-2009 14:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravist
has anyone used skype to make calls? im thinking of getting the nokia n900 and using skype to make my calls. I found out to call any landline or cell phone will cost me $35.20 for the entire year! Only downside i see is that I cant use the phone to make emergency calls


From my experince, I've only used Skype on the iPhone and haven't tried other units. I've tested it on Edge, 3G & Wifi and the results are just as clear as any landline or cellphone. Obviously, Edge isn't so clear and it's a must to be on the other two modes.

My suggestion is, if your gonna get the N900 ... Wait until Wind allows you to use that unit on their networks before you buy it.

My buddy is doing what you want to do, got the Skypeout credits and using it w/ his iPhone at the momment with IM+ w/ Skype. Anytime anyone calls him over Skype, it's directly starts ringing as a normal call on his unit.


Posted by Ravist on Dec-20-2009 16:16:

But i dont plan on joining any provider, just want to use Skype, with the n900 i dont think i will need any provider to use the phone as an internet phone


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-20-2009 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravist
But i dont plan on joining any provider, just want to use Skype, with the n900 i dont think i will need any provider to use the phone as an internet phone


With no service provider, how you gonna get Data Access?

N900
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100 / 900


Posted by monishb on Dec-20-2009 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

why wouldn't it operate on 1700 alone if say the future phone supports it?


Its because they are using AWS , rather than the standard UMTS


UMTS frequency bands - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands


Posted by monishb on Dec-20-2009 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
With no service provider, how you gonna get Data Access?

N900
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100 / 900


i think what he means is probably hes trying to use Wifi to acess skype


Posted by Abercrombie on Dec-20-2009 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravist
has anyone used skype to make calls? im thinking of getting the nokia n900 and using skype to make my calls. I found out to call any landline or cell phone will cost me $35.20 for the entire year! Only downside i see is that I cant use the phone to make emergency calls


35.20 is it? I didn't know that.... I thought it was a per minute thing. This would really cut on my calling cards for long-distance on my phone, and make calling terribly cheap when I'm in the US on wifi


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-21-2009 00:01:

Skypeout has a annual fee for unlimited credits.


Posted by Stilez on Dec-21-2009 04:03:

John has a point. Without a provider/carrier...how's he gonna have the data to use Skype? Unless he expects to have access to WiFi at all times? What about on a bus? or at the mall?

I use Skype all the time, usually for daytime calls to 1-800 #'s and using my home WiFi. Can't beat FREE!! Signal is super awesome. Only bad thing is when I get a txt msg or real call coming in..it usually disconnects the skype call, even if I hit cancel to the pop up notice.


Posted by Abercrombie on Dec-21-2009 05:27:

I just signed up for their $2.95 CDN a month for unlimited calls to Us and Canada phone numbers. I did my first calls to Vancouver, the sound was clear, however there seemed to be a little lag, or it sounded like the call was half-duplex instead of full duplex. I'll test it out some more. I'm heading down to north carolina in the morning, and this is why I needed this, so I don't get charged the 2 bucks a minute rogers charges from calls from the US to Canada.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Dec-21-2009 07:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
I'm heading down to north carolina in the morning,


My one and only favourite state!!

Say hi to all the North Carolinians from Jem!!!

Love those ppl (well, except for the religious zealot freaks and the racists)

They got pumpelled with a massive snowstorm too... i swear only ever 5 years do they see snow!!


Have fun down there AJ! MERRY CHRISTMAS!


Posted by Jer on Dec-21-2009 11:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
I just signed up for their $2.95 CDN a month for unlimited calls to Us and Canada phone numbers. I did my first calls to Vancouver, the sound was clear, however there seemed to be a little lag, or it sounded like the call was half-duplex instead of full duplex. I'll test it out some more. I'm heading down to north carolina in the morning, and this is why I needed this, so I don't get charged the 2 bucks a minute rogers charges from calls from the US to Canada.


Just make sure that you're using Skype through Wifi and not Data, because Data Roaming will RAPE YOU. I got hit hard while I was in New York around Halloween.

Also, I think you might be right about Skype and Half / Full Duplex, I use Skype all the time to call the offices in (the real) London and I generally have to wait for the person on the other end to stop talking before I start but again, you can't beat the price.


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-21-2009 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by monishb
Its because they are using AWS , rather than the standard UMTS


UMTS frequency bands - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands



i know WIND is on AWS.. sorry maybe i didn't phrase my question correctly: what is stopping Apple from making an AWS/UMTS supported iPhone? doesn't the BB Bold 9700 run on both standards?


Posted by monishb on Dec-21-2009 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

i know WIND is on AWS.. sorry maybe i didn't phrase my question correctly: what is stopping Apple from making an AWS/UMTS supported iPhone? doesn't the BB Bold 9700 run on both standards?


i dont see apple making a AWS phone since most on the world is transitioning to UMTS and would be a bad investment, there is nothing stoping them , its just that with LTE around the corner i doubt they would cater to just one specific carrier when they could break deals with multiple UMTS/HSPA carriers which equates to more $$ in their pockets and portfolio. Also another factor comes is the standard freq for North america and rest of Asia and Middle east is on UMTS so they rather use a standard frequency.

Also there have been rumors of a CDMA Iphone which i can see possibility of happening since majority of the US/Canada is still blanketed in CDMA and there is a huge market for it they havent captured also Latin America and Central American countrys


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-22-2009 21:04:


interesting article on whether the iPhone might ever operate on T-Mobile (AWS 1700 Mhz) in the US..

http://www.pcworld.com/article/1834...le_why_not.html


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-22-2009 22:44:

After thinking about jumping ship over to Wind, I think I'm gonna stay w/ Rogers for a while.

My Current plan for VP & DP is ultra cheap and it's more then I need. I've never gone over any limits so far and who knows, maybe in the near future Rogers will really counter attack Wind's pricing plans to the general public.

Another concern I have is the 1700/2100 band, only two carriers I know uses it and if I do travel, I would have to dig up another phone for that region.

Things would be diff if I was in the business field, I would be all over Wind right at the get go and the amount of money I save on the airtime would be unreal.


Posted by exstasie on Dec-22-2009 23:51:

Stupid BIS & P2P messaging is down again!

I haven't been able to PIN Messaging since like 2pm today and BIS seems to be messed up!!

At least there hasn't been any issues with BES...


Posted by Jem_hadar on Dec-23-2009 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Stupid BIS & P2P messaging is down again!

I haven't been able to PIN Messaging since like 2pm today and BIS seems to be messed up!!

At least there hasn't been any issues with BES...



TELL ME ABT IT... in the last 3 hrs this has begun to pissed me off! lol


Posted by exstasie on Dec-23-2009 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
TELL ME ABT IT... in the last 3 hrs this has begun to pissed me off! lol



STill down as of this morning!!

This is the third time that BIS/PIN has been down this year I believe.

Once when BBM 5.0 first was released, however that was only for a few hours. Once last week when BIS was down for a few hours...and now yesterday! It's been down for over 12 hours!!! Thankfully its only PIN that's down and not BIS/BES.

Seriously RIM?


EDIT: Looks like PIN is working for me now. IT just took a while for PIN to start working this morning. But everything seems to be working smoothly now!


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-23-2009 15:47:

For the past 6 months, RIM's server has been so sketchy ...


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-23-2009 17:24:


Android eats iPhone market share in five years
http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/...ws.asp?id=55837


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-28-2009 22:16:







I'm at the Wind store @ STC, rep told me they're allowing 3rd party AWS phone to run on their networks. Bring in any 1700 & 2100 band phone and they will get you going with their sim card.


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-29-2009 20:49:




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