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dylan avery and his co producer are the biggest pack of losers i have ever seen on television. Remember that debate they had with the producers from popular mechanics? they have no debating skills whatsoever, their response to every argument was "thats a lie", or laughing on camera.... these guys arent out to find the truth, they like being on tv, and they are trying to find the truth with a box on their head.... the new video is just a massive collection of shitty video, out of context quotes, and vague coincidences....
when the new world order starts imprisoning everyone with IQ's below 10.... these two should be first in line.
dylan avery speaks volumes! 
And while the trolls continue to rot away at message boards there are more serious and credible events occurring internationally....
Europe for 9/11 Truth Evening at the European Parliament

http://reopen911.info/

david griffin is an arseclown.
Apparently this a*s clown has many (thousands) of high ranking international figures agreeing with him.
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| Originally posted by culorut Apparently this a*s clown has many (thousands) of high ranking international figures agreeing with him. |
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| Originally posted by culorut Apparently this a*s clown has many (thousands) of high ranking international figures agreeing with him. |
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| Originally posted by culorut Apparently this a*s clown has many (thousands) of high ranking international figures agreeing with him. |
The both of you should not consider these very high ranking people in the same low ranking circle which both of you preside in.
Troll land.
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| Originally posted by culorut The both of you should not consider these very high ranking people in the same low ranking circle which both of you preside in. Troll land. |
Yes "tiny" crowds of hundreds of people which are composed of doctors, scientists, lawyers, engineers, military personnel and high ranking politicians from every corner of the globe. Multiply this by a few hundred of conferences a year over the last 5-6 years and it is not hard to see why the odds have turned.
It did start small but has led to millions of people internationally speaking up against the official story including Italy's former president.
Oddly enough no one for the official story has been able to gather the same amount of attention from various intellects from around the world since the bullshit 9/11 commission.
To say this something has not come very far is grasping at the same lies the official 9/11 story is built upon and for the matter is quite the opposite of the distorted reality.

show me a single event which had "hundreds" of people attending. and your "experts" are anything but! i read the studies by these so-called experts and they're full of lies and fallacies. if a layman like myself can tell its bullshit i struggle to see how they can be called "experts". FYI your movement still does not have a SINGLE structural engineer! that's just too funny.
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| Originally posted by culorut Oddly enough no one for the official story has been able to gather the same amount of attention from various intellects from around the world since the bullshit 9/11 commission. |
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN ![]() show me a single event which had "hundreds" of people attending. and your "experts" are anything but! i read the studies by these so-called experts and they're full of lies and fallacies. if a layman like myself can tell its bullshit i struggle to see how they can be called "experts". FYI your movement still does not have a SINGLE structural engineer! that's just too funny. we dont need to "grab attention" from anyone, the onus is on you and the troofers if you hadnt noticed. we have all the peer-reviewed and scientifically-validated studies and the general consensus. if you really think the "movement" enjoys popular support you really are kidding yourself. |
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z Can you even solve a simple calculus problem? |
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z Or mechanics? Or prove a simple number theory proof, like the square root of two is irrational? |
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z I can see some basis for arrogance when a person actually knows what he's talking about. |

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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z Juvenile derision akin to something you'd expect from a high school school bully is a pretty sad response. Feel free to loose your mind and repond with a pathetic ad hominem, and demonstrate your arrogance, not to mention validate what I just said . |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i could in year 12. not sure about now! |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN unlikely. what arrogance? ![]() this is my exact point; im not an expert and even i can see that a lot of the arguments made by (amongst others) griffin are absolute nonsense. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont blame me for your sincere lack of reading comprehension, |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN and actually helping me add to my point of just how intellectually unsound the troof movement is. |
. Having said that, it's certainly less disingenous than "anti-troof" movement for lack of a better term. Don't lump me with the "troof" movement though, I have several disagreements with "troofers," both intellectually and ethically.
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z LOL, school is great isn't it? It's so easy to forget what you learned . |
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z That's exactly my point, stop pretending you can actually critically evaluate so called expert analysis. A guy like colonelcrip can actually argue these matters to an extent, and offer original input. |
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z Don't lump me with the "troof" movement though, I have several disagreements with "troofers," both intellectually and ethically. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, at least this post is 100x more important and compelling than some disingeuous non-sequitur that has been explained a billion times, like trancer-x idiotic gif ^^ i mean, how retarded do you have to be to post nonsense like that? though really shaolin, i cant see israel planning an attack on their only ally in the whole world |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, its bloody ridiculous! all the basic maths stuff is still there, but some of the more exotic stuff i would REALLY struggle with nowadays! |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN just some of the assumptions that these people are making (ie many are repeating known fallacies that were shown to be so YEARS ago). i have never, and will never, pretend to be an expert in the sciences surrounding 911, but i will call bullshit on stuff that i know just isnt true. |
. Fuck, does that make me a centrist too!
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN which is why i like you |
...that damn Zionist inflitrator did a number of me indeed! 
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here's a great photo i hadn't seen before, which illustrates why the towers fell as they did.

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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN here's a great photo i hadn't seen before, which illustrates why the towers fell as they did. |
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z You're right, the charges are clearly visible . |

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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha, youre such a cvnt! ![]() now, please at least tell me that the supersrtucture lends itself to a "pancaking" given that picture? Just look at it! |
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hey lot, sorry i missed the fun the past few days, im still in london uk on vacay, but i have a funny storry for you. while i was being a dorky tourist one day, i was walking in front of the houses of parliment and there was a troofer protest happening across the street in front of the statue of churchill. funny enough, there were about 20 protesters, and a couple hundred people shouting wankers as they walked pased them. I had to stop and laugh a bit.
This country is absolutely fantastic, although, expensive as hell. But i must go, my buddy is cooking me bangers and mash and im about to down a couple more pints of bitters. Cheers mates.
ill be back in the soviet states of cannukistan on teh 25th.
ciao
-the colonel
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| Originally posted by colonelcrisp hey lot, sorry i missed the fun the past few days, im still in london uk on vacay, but i have a funny storry for you. while i was being a dorky tourist one day, i was walking in front of the houses of parliment and there was a troofer protest happening across the street in front of the statue of churchill. funny enough, there were about 20 protesters, and a couple hundred people shouting wankers as they walked pased them. I had to stop and laugh a bit... |

How the 9/11 Commission Got it Wrong
If Shenon's book was your introduction to the simple fact that the 9/11 Commission failed in its mandate on several levels, then you are probably unaware that serious criticism of the 9/11 Commission was entered into the Congressional Record of the 109th Congress. This criticism was the result of a Congressional Briefing conducted by former Congressional Representative, Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. (McKinney is currently seeking the Presidential nomination for the Green Party of the United States.)
The briefing was held on July 22nd, 2005, subsequently broadcast by C-SPAN, and studiously ignored by the corporate press. A comprehensive collation of the briefing has not been made available online, but thanks to the magic of YouTube, I have chopped the most pertinent testimonies from that day into neat 10 minute segments that are easily digestible for the busy internet surfer. You may have seen some of the footage from the briefing in the documentary, "Press for Truth", where Lorie Van Auken talked about her husband's fate on 9/11. Beyond that, not much of this footage has been circulating on the net.
So, if you are new to 9/11 Truth, or 9/11 skepticism, or you just have some questions, this is a great start. This briefing does not present much speculation or theory, but does break down the Commission on its bureaucratic failings, and lists a host of anomalies that will send you researching for days if this is all new to you. (This briefing does not discuss controlled demolition theories at all, it wasn't until physicist Steven Jones came on the scene in 2006 that CD "exploded" into the massive topic for 9/11 skeptics that is currently is. There was a lot of research already published online, and some in books, but it took a PhD to kick it over the top.)
The YouTube series is in 25 parts, and begins with McKinney's opening statement;
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