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true stevebutabi . If you criticise smthin do it properly . I wont say trance sucks or progressive sucks or schulz sucks or tiesto sucks or van dyk sucks without a reason . From this thread 90% of the people just follow wat other people said cause there post look nice and sophisticate

as a gdjb played producer id just like to say, if u dont like the music then fuck off and listen to your shitty hardcore/hardstyle/cheese in a can above and beyond look at my synths look at my synths music and leave the music i and the other producers work the fuck alone.

if u dont like it, fuck off and dont listen, dont bitch cos about it cos it proves your some kind of fucking idiot who doesnt understand shit.

prog gone formulaeic? welcome to edm u dumb twats, all EDM is formulaeic, intro, main verse, outro... at its simplest

and dreamy sounding reverbed synths? hell yes and u know why? cos when u hear them u get that funny little feeling in your stomach which makes u happy and feel euphoric, THAT is why people use them, THAT is why people like them!

personally id like to hear the prog sound go both deeper and more uplifting into two seperate sub genres, cos i think that prog has a lot of life in it.

as for markus and armin killing prog, whats your problem? would you have even heard of it if it wasnt for them? simple answer... NO.

its idiots like the fools who bitch on this thread that kill the fucking scene, so once again shove ur mc prog label up ur arse and kindly fuck off back to your cyberkiddies munching 20 pills a night destroying their braincells and listening to music which is too fast to dance to for more than 30 seconds, leave the decent music to the people who understand/deserve it

Nick Thompson

Well, isn't all of this a bit silly? First of all, I'll say the obvious:

1. If you don't like something, don't listen to it.

2. If you don't like something, why do you insist on telling the World about it? You sad sad attention seeker you!

3. Not everyone is you- get over it!

4. There is NEVER any bad music, there are only opinions. Most of which should be kept to themselves.

5. Go do something creative.

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Originally posted by Mechgear all EDM is formulaeic, intro, main verse, outro... at its simplest

Slow down there fireplug. Intro/main verse/outro! In EDM! And most every other kind of music! How formulaic!

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its idiots like the fools who bitch on this thread that kill the fucking scene, so once again shove ur mc prog label up ur arse and kindly fuck off back to your cyberkiddies munching 20 pills a night destroying their braincells and listening to music which is too fast to dance to for more than 30 seconds, leave the decent music to the people who understand/deserve it Nick Thompson

I bet you'd like to make your livelihood off of the music you make eh Nick Thompson?

The only people who say there is never such a thing as bad music are the ones who listen to bad music.

actually all edm is formulaeic in that respect, it all follows the same basis of progression, true there are a lot of variations between those elements but they all contain them.

and yes of course id like to make a living from my music

N

actually all edm is formulaeic in that respect, it all follows the same basis of progression, true there are a lot of variations between those elements but they all contain them.

and yes of course id like to make a living from my music

N

Trance built a village... and the hunters rejoiced.
The village turned into a town, with the introduction of agricultre the forest was cut down so the hunters left.

The hunters moved to a new village called Progressive where they once again revelled in the hunt. Then the village grew into a town and the hunters left once more.

Then the hunters were not sure where to go. There were no more large forests to hunt in, so they lurked at the edge of town and cursed the townsfolk for chopping down all their trees and chasing away all their game.

The hunters were only comfortable hunting game.

And the hunters said "please leave us a forest to hunt in in peace... wherever we hunt you arrive a few years later and build a town destroying our fun."

And the man came down to them and said "where the best game lives, so will the best crops grow... we follow you because you lead the way. This is the way of things."

And the hunters understood that their role was to find the best places to build towns, so they looked at the towns they had given birth to with a new sense of pride. Perhaps some of them were a little gaudy, perhaps some of them were a little decadent but all of them were now filled with people dancing and that's what they liked the best in the end.

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Originally posted by Mechgear as a gdjb played producer id just like to say, if u dont like the music then fuck off and listen to your shitty hardcore/hardstyle/cheese in a can above and beyond look at my synths look at my synths music and leave the music i and the other producers work the fuck alone. if u dont like it, fuck off and dont listen, dont bitch cos about it cos it proves your some kind of fucking idiot who doesnt understand shit. prog gone formulaeic? welcome to edm u dumb twats, all EDM is formulaeic, intro, main verse, outro... at its simplest and dreamy sounding reverbed synths? hell yes and u know why? cos when u hear them u get that funny little feeling in your stomach which makes u happy and feel euphoric, THAT is why people use them, THAT is why people like them! personally id like to hear the prog sound go both deeper and more uplifting into two seperate sub genres, cos i think that prog has a lot of life in it. as for markus and armin killing prog, whats your problem? would you have even heard of it if it wasnt for them? simple answer... NO. its idiots like the fools who bitch on this thread that kill the fucking scene, so once again shove ur mc prog label up ur arse and kindly fuck off back to your cyberkiddies munching 20 pills a night destroying their braincells and listening to music which is too fast to dance to for more than 30 seconds, leave the decent music to the people who understand/deserve it Nick Thompson

hehe lol ^
nice attitude for a "producer"

and whats that about above and beyond ?
we've heard so many quality music produced by you, haven't we, Shit McThompson?

<3

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Originally posted by Mechgear actually all edm is formulaeic in that respect, it all follows the same basis of progression, true there are a lot of variations between those elements but they all contain them.

And so does most other music. You're going to have to find something more specific than intro/main verse/outro to call a certain music formulaic...

compared to what we've heard from you?

erm can you name anything?

Nick

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Originally posted by Mechgear as a gdjb played producer id just like to say, if u dont like the music then fuck off and listen to your shitty hardcore/hardstyle/cheese in a can above and beyond look at my synths look at my synths music and leave the music i and the other producers work the fuck alone. if u dont like it, fuck off and dont listen, dont bitch cos about it cos it proves your some kind of fucking idiot who doesnt understand shit. prog gone formulaeic? welcome to edm u dumb twats, all EDM is formulaeic, intro, main verse, outro... at its simplest and dreamy sounding reverbed synths? hell yes and u know why? cos when u hear them u get that funny little feeling in your stomach which makes u happy and feel euphoric, THAT is why people use them, THAT is why people like them! personally id like to hear the prog sound go both deeper and more uplifting into two seperate sub genres, cos i think that prog has a lot of life in it. as for markus and armin killing prog, whats your problem? would you have even heard of it if it wasnt for them? simple answer... NO. its idiots like the fools who bitch on this thread that kill the fucking scene, so once again shove ur mc prog label up ur arse and kindly fuck off back to your cyberkiddies munching 20 pills a night destroying their braincells and listening to music which is too fast to dance to for more than 30 seconds, leave the decent music to the people who understand/deserve it Nick Thompson

You seem to have completely missed the fact that most of the people that bash "mcprog" aren't the above & beyond epic trance heads, but the sasha&digweed progressive fans (such as myself). Not that you have any argument there, that's just a bunch of insults and points made already. As for "deeper prog" and "uplifting prog" (mcprog) going separate, i think that's what's starting to happen now and what this thread shows, two different bunches of prog fans.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 You seem to have completely missed the fact that most of the people that bash "mcprog" aren't the above & beyond epic trance heads, but the sasha&digweed progressive fans (such as myself). Not that you have any argument there, that's just a bunch of insults and points made already. As for "deeper prog" and "uplifting prog" (mcprog) going separate, i think that's what's starting to happen now and what this thread shows, two different bunches of prog fans.

i didnt miss the point at all, a lot of the people bashing the music are sasha fans etc (wow isnt that prog house?) but a lot are also harder music fans, and yes my above and beyond comment was OTT but nevermind eh! mc prog as you all want to call it is more prog trance imo which would explain the rift between the two sets of prog fans

Nick

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Originally posted by Radagast And so does most other music. You're going to have to find something more specific than intro/main verse/outro to call a certain music formulaic...

seriously though as the one stating that all prog is formulaeic it should actually be upto you to prove that it is and that others arent, not me to prove that all forms are

n

progressive trance?


it's really fucking sad if progressive trance has evolved from Sasha GU 13 to "McProg"


let's just try and think of a better name for Markus Schultz style music than McProg... maybe then fans of it will be less insulted by their fav music being called a less silly name

any suggestions?

when was sasha ever prog trance? sasha is prog house, always has been

N

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Originally posted by Mechgear i didnt miss the point at all, a lot of the people bashing the music are sasha fans etc (wow isnt that prog house?) but a lot are also harder music fans, and yes my above and beyond comment was OTT but nevermind eh! mc prog as you all want to call it is more prog trance imo which would explain the rift between the two sets of prog fans Nick

yes your above and beyond comment was a little stupid
you should know better as a producer, dont bash eachother!

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Originally posted by stevebutabi progressive trance? it's really fucking sad if progressive trance has evolved from Sasha GU 13 to "McProg" let's just try and think of a better name for Markus Schultz style music than McProg... maybe then fans of it will be less insulted by their fav music being called a less silly name any suggestions?

if they release them commerically we called call them mc prog with cheese

to be honest, whatever anyone wants to call any genre is upto them, its all about freedom of speech

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Originally posted by Mechgear when was sasha ever prog trance? sasha is prog house, always has been N

Sorry pal but Global Underground 13 is progressive trance, though it does certainly have prog house elements in it.

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Originally posted by DJ_Massive yes your above and beyond comment was a little stupid you should know better as a producer, dont bash eachother!

hehe yeah i know but the whole mcprog thing slags off everything i musically stand for and after 13 or so pages of people slagging it off i was pretty much pissed off

apologies for the A&B comment once again

N

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Originally posted by Mechgear when was sasha ever prog trance? sasha is prog house, always has been N

well you could say he was "prog trance" back in 1999 and before, like his GU 013 cd, but still its just labelling him.. what is prog trance for one person, could be prog house for someone else, it's such an endless discussion..

C'mon guys give it a rest, this flame war shit is ridiculous, speaking for myself I got into dance music to enjoy and have fun not rip apart someone elses likeing or dislike...GIVE IT A REST

Shawn / DJMitiska

i'm sorry there is nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, don't tell people to stop criticising each other.


also as for labelling things, it's just part of western civ.
we're a society based on rationalism- we like to be able to make sense out of everything and put labels on everything

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Originally posted by stevebutabi i'm sorry there is nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, don't tell people to stop criticising each other.

I agree nothing wrong with voicing an opinion and leaving it at that but attacking a person as soon as they post just for the sake of feeling like "the bigger man" is wrong so give it a rest like I said before

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Originally posted by Mechgear when was sasha ever prog trance? sasha is prog house, always has been

does it even matter what's what? i mean, all these genre labels do is creating a hostile environment. there's hostility towards a certain genre, towards artists who are categorised in that particular genre, towards people who enjoy a certain genre, etc.

all i have to say is: listen to what you feel like. clear your mind, forget about genres, don't care about what other people enjoy. the music itself is all that matters.

finally! ive waited for someone to take a stand against this pos stuff.

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