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Posted by seawinde on Apr-25-2005 05:12:

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Originally posted by malek


will you recuse yourself and stfu and admit that you're wrong if i show you a picture of a muslim dude wearing a sword within his necklace???!?

damn it, you are the only ignorant fool in this thread!


i am here so late but u are the one that is fool in here , i am muslim , i live in EGYPT and i have never seen anyone around thats wear sword around his necklace , it doesnt mean that one of ur dudes where one that all muslims in the world are wearing , U ARE TELLING FUCKING LIES


Posted by seawinde on Apr-25-2005 06:06:

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Originally posted by malek
so from the 1 billion muslims around the world, i was lucky enough to find the one with the sword... funny stuff man, i shall start playing loteries.


maybe u have photographed him urself


Posted by seawinde on Apr-25-2005 06:10:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
ive actually seen with my own eyes muslims wear that sword around their necks like christians do with the cross.

Many pakistani's to be more specific. I even asked a girl who was wearing it what that was and what it meant. She described it to me as teh sword of "ali" ??


if she said so , " sword of ali" shes probably "Shi'a " i and i have never heard about sword of ali so u can call that hoaxes


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-25-2005 08:11:

Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by seawinde
if she said so , " sword of ali" shes probably "Shi'a " i and i have never heard about sword of ali so u can call that hoaxes


That sword is the sword that was used to murder Imam Ali and it is very symbolic and a very important day in the shia muslim nations.


Posted by razmataz on Apr-25-2005 11:00:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
That sword is the sword that was used to murder Imam Ali and it is very symbolic and a very important day in the shia muslim nations.


There you have it folks, the sword that killed Ali is a symbol for Shias much like the cross that killed Jesus is for Christians. And Syria has a minor but powerful/vocal Shia population from what I know- where the picture comes what I hear. What the hell was all the rockus in this thread about anyway?? So the guy has an interesting piece around his neck? Big f******* deal.

To be honest, I burst out laughing when I saw the picture of the dude with the "sword" around his neck. With all this hysteria, I was actually expecting to find a real bad-ass blade.


Posted by George Smiley on Apr-25-2005 12:07:

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Originally posted by razmataz
There you have it folks, the sword that killed Ali is a symbol for Shias much like the cross that killed Jesus is for Christians. And Syria has a minor but powerful/vocal Shia population from what I know- where the picture comes what I hear. What the hell was all the rockus in this thread about anyway?? So the guy has an interesting piece around his neck? Big f******* deal.

To be honest, I burst out laughing when I saw the picture of the dude with the "sword" around his neck. With all this hysteria, I was actually expecting to find a real bad-ass blade.

your missing the point. Its not whether the sword is an important symbol (it pretty obviously is) its what it symbolises. Malek is claiming that it symbolises "convert to Islam or die" which is a load of bollox. We now have two reasons why the sword might be important - the sword of Ali, and the sword on the Saudi Arabian flag (which is what Malek originally said). However, these two are obviously gonna be different cos Saudi Arabia is hardly likely to have the Shia emblem on their flag are they? And besides, the Saudi sword represents the person who conquered the land (not sure if this is right but I think it was from the Turks maybe around 1900/1915 ish?) So basically, you are right to say that the sword(s) a merely symbols associated with important people in Islam/Arabism just like the cross is associated with Jesus. Christians dont wear the crucifix round their necks cos they agree with killing Jews do they?!


Posted by tamk on Apr-25-2005 19:16:

^^^
that is what i was trying to say as well, thank you sir.

a pint on me at your favorite local pub watching chelski rape all the other teams or when pakistan comes to tour england (cricket btw) you can see the pakis run through the pommies yet again, no allegations of ball tampering this time, its called reverse swing, now that the white boys of cricket have also learnt how to do it. hahhahaha. just jk (now thats some ranting)

another point of fact, hardcore trance you are from iran you should know this, the sword of ali is the zulfiqar his double edged sword, a fabled sword, not the one that killed him.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-25-2005 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by tamk
another point of fact, hardcore trance you are from iran you should know this, the sword of ali is the zulfiqar his double edged sword, a fabled sword, not the one that killed him.



hehe I was about to edit my post this morning but you already mentioned it .


There is also another one which shows two swords crossing eachother which from what I understand it shows brotherhood.Again I could be wrong on this.


Posted by George Smiley on Apr-25-2005 23:17:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
hehe I was about to edit my post this morning but you already mentioned it .


There is also another one which shows two swords crossing eachother which from what I understand it shows brotherhood.Again I could be wrong on this.

No two swords crossing symbolises KILL PIGGIES!!!



All together now "Katy Harris, she's our friend, she kills piggies"!!!


Posted by George Smiley on Apr-25-2005 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by tamk
^^^
that is what i was trying to say as well, thank you sir.

a pint on me at your favorite local pub watching chelski rape all the other teams or when pakistan comes to tour england (cricket btw) you can see the pakis run through the pommies yet again, no allegations of ball tampering this time, its called reverse swing, now that the white boys of cricket have also learnt how to do it. hahhahaha. just jk (now thats some ranting)

another point of fact, hardcore trance you are from iran you should know this, the sword of ali is the zulfiqar his double edged sword, a fabled sword, not the one that killed him.

"Pakis" is a racist term in the UK just to let ya know! And you you can buy me a pint if Pakistan come to Headingley cos I live next door to the stadium! As for Chelsea, all I have to say to their supporters (including my housemate who comes from fuckin Derby!) is "where were you when you were shit?!"


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