Paul Van Dyk - Politics of Dancing 2 (September 05)

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Posted by sandstorm03 on Sep-13-2005 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
He's been doing this the past few years in all of his sets I think in an attempt to give them his own sound; but I agree, lots of times I listen to his stuff I feel like he just needs to slow it down a couple of bpms.

live sets are much different from cds.

Posted by NeilD on Sep-13-2005 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
live sets are much different from cds.

he plays tunes fast so way should it be any different for a compliation?

Posted by WardC on Sep-13-2005 01:11:

Politics of Dancing 2

I still haven't heard the whole 2CD mix in the entirety, just the tracks by themselves individually (i.e.I didn't get the promo, and I can't find a rip)

So, most people are saying the mixing is bad with TPOD2...

TPOD1 was awesome mixing, in my opinion, the blending of the elements throughout the mix to give it one, continous feel was nothing short of excellent....I really enjoyed TPOD1, I think it all turned out really good.

From listening to the tracks on the nettwerk site, it doesn't really sound like there IS much mixing, I mean, not alot of blending or time given for the mixing between tracks (i.e. quick transitions), the bpm ratio does seem consistent, as is PVD-style for his CD release mix albums...but this mix sounds totally different than TPOD1

My opinion: CD1 is supposed to be the 'low tempo/chill' mix, and CD2 is supposed to be the hard-edge dancefloor banging mix....I will agree that CD2 sounds more like what he's been playing at his liveshows for the first half of 2005, but CD1 really doesn't seem like a 'chillout' mix like CD #1 of TPOD1 did...that was more downbeat and chill...CD1 of TPOD2 sounds more like an energy trance mix, in my opinion. the Paul van Dyk website lays it out as "CD1: Slower, melodic grooves" and "CD2: tougher beats" I guess, if that makes sense, you might look at it that way...

Still, I'm eagerly waiting the release of this mix album, from the previews it sounds like a great selection of tunes for another hit PVD release...but totally different from TPOD1.

All the best in PVD,
peace.

-Ward

Posted by Keith Chambers on Sep-13-2005 02:12:

I'm a PVD fan but I've been listening to this the last few days and I just doesn't move me. Maybe it's because I own half the tracks already and feel like I could have made this mix. TPOD 1 is timeless for me. I can put it on and enjoy it still today. I just can't see wanting to listen to this in a year.

In some ways I think this was doomed from the beginning because the expectations where massive. On top of that it was announced FOREVER ago. Then TPOD 2 Tour came and went months ago but still no release. To top it off the entire release was available all over the net before Paul even released the track listing on his site. If there ever is a TPOD 3 I hope it�s kept quite until it is ready to release. I know it's hard to do these days with the internet but this release might hit the discount rack next month.

Regardless, I'll buy a copy to show support.

Posted by eltomas on Sep-13-2005 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
the mixing in the whole cd is crap, + the bpm is way to high

bpm too high? this is PVD we are talking about, why would you expect anything different from PVD?...that is his trade signature, the fast bass

Posted by Nik Novo on Sep-13-2005 10:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
people who don't post in forums like this and who don't download any livesets will enjoy this cd and the tracks on it are not overplayed or "old".

only freaks like us think the tracks are old and overplayed, because we read all the tracklists and listen to all the livesets...

I have 2 or 3 PvD Sets from 2005 and i only liked 2. Why that? Because I've been to 4 pvd gigs in about half a year and he's been playing the same crap tracks over and over again. you don't have to be a ta to be annoyed by paul's track selection

quote:
Originally posted by Glaniskanis
lol
why does everyone now say..
"yeah its true tracks are old but most ppl never heard of the tracks anyway"
when ISOS4 came out it was the same people that said
"lol so much old stuff... wait till TPOD2 is released"

horrible!
even the mixing on this one aint good enough to save the album

In comparison to ISOS4 was really good and innovative. Why? Because he didn't put the same tracks on the CD he's been playing for half a year before the CD came out. I don't say that I like ISOS4, it's way behind ISOS 1-3 but it's far better than TPOD2 as are Tiesto's current livesets compared to Pauls (and i would have never thought i would say that...)

quote:
Originally posted by Keith Chambers
I'm a PVD fan but I've been listening to this the last few days and I just doesn't move me. Maybe it's because I own half the tracks already and feel like I could have made this mix. TPOD 1 is timeless for me. I can put it on and enjoy it still today. I just can't see wanting to listen to this in a year.

In some ways I think this was doomed from the beginning because the expectations where massive. On top of that it was announced FOREVER ago. Then TPOD 2 Tour came and went months ago but still no release. To top it off the entire release was available all over the net before Paul even released the track listing on his site. If there ever is a TPOD 3 I hope it�s kept quite until it is ready to release. I know it's hard to do these days with the internet but this release might hit the discount rack next month.

Regardless, I'll buy a copy to show support.

About keeping quiet, it think there is hardly anyone better than Vandit. If not, people would at least know when their releases come out

Posted by zoric on Sep-13-2005 12:01:

The mixing on this compilation is not bad at all, In fact it's good. But most of the tunes that's picked out here, Really sucks, But not all.

Posted by keithos27 on Sep-13-2005 13:31:

so is "nothing" really on this compilation?

after reading so many pages of this thread my expectations are now VERY low, but i'll still grab it to show support. just listened to part of TPOD 1 last night for the first time in a long time... still a great comp!

Posted by Ted Promo on Sep-13-2005 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
live sets are much different from cds.

Seriously. He does up the bpm during lives sets. Plainly seen in the Energy 2003 set. But on the live albums such as TPOD 1 he didn't really up the bpm. It's mainly something he does for livesets, and livesets only.

Posted by A.J. on Sep-13-2005 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
so is "nothing" really on this compilation?

after reading so many pages of this thread my expectations are now VERY low, but i'll still grab it to show support. just listened to part of TPOD 1 last night for the first time in a long time... still a great comp!

If your expectations are so low, why are you going to still buy it?

There is no point in rewarding mediocrity......

Posted by keithos27 on Sep-13-2005 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by A.J.
If your expectations are so low, why are you going to still buy it?

There is no point in rewarding mediocrity......

Perhaps... but I do not know many of these songs so I will enjoy hearing "new" music (to me at least... i'm not nearly as big a PVD freak as some on this board, hehe).

Posted by icedale on Sep-13-2005 17:12:

I find the tracklist really poor.

Absolutely not going to lay my cash on this.
I`ve been to a gig of his some time ago and got bored. Started looking around...
If the cd is anything like that, well I don�t think I`m anxious to take a listen.
Moreover, since he said that there is no decent trance tracks lately, why release the comp. anyway?

Posted by CGRumler on Sep-13-2005 18:00:

CD 2 seems to have more of the vibe that I'm looking for. However, I like listening to the first CD, as well. I still like the first TPOD better, even though the two compilations shouldn't even be compared to each other; with the sound of the music changing drastically these last few years.

Posted by eltomas on Sep-14-2005 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by A.J.

There is no point in rewarding mediocrity......

and how is supporting dj mikey mikey any different...he is using the same philosophy you used

Posted by RebeL9 on Sep-14-2005 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by eltomas
and how is supporting dj mikey mikey any different...he is using the same philosophy you used

pardon me?

Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Sep-14-2005 08:03:

quote:
Originally posted by A.J.
If your expectations are so low, why are you going to still buy it?

There is no point in rewarding mediocrity......

same reason why sports fans support their club through 'bad' times...

Posted by A.J. on Sep-14-2005 14:54:

Not really.

Posted by TheVrk on Sep-15-2005 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
only freaks like us think the tracks are old and overplayed, because we read all the tracklists and listen to all the livesets...

EXACTLY right

Posted by THE_Chris on Sep-15-2005 18:41:

WLR > TPOD2

Posted by Swamper on Sep-16-2005 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
people who don't post in forums like this and who don't download any livesets will enjoy this cd and the tracks on it are not overplayed or "old".

I agree with this - but only to an extent - I've been into this music for years BUT when POD 1 was released I was playing it nonstop for weeks - in fact - I still love POD 1 years later. The track selection was ace and the mixing/programming flowed!

POD 2 has a handful of great tracks but other than that it is just like any other mix CD. Worth a listen ...but that's about it.

Posted by THE_Chris on Sep-16-2005 20:24:

Agreed. TPOD1 stuck out, it was a great 'PVD only' CD. TPOD2 could have been mixed by anyone. Its generic.

Posted by cistane on Sep-17-2005 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Agreed. TPOD1 stuck out, it was a great 'PVD only' CD. TPOD2 could have been mixed by anyone. Its generic.

+1...

Posted by angellica on Sep-17-2005 05:54:

There's really nothing special on this for me

Posted by aTaK on Sep-17-2005 10:54:

This cd suxx really hard !!! First Politics of Dancing was amazing...No it is almost amazing. But this one is poor !!!

Paul its time to stop !!!

Posted by jp on Sep-17-2005 16:31:

This CD could have been made by Armin Van Buuren. Actually it sounds as the second/third hour of his 6 hour DJ sets

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