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Originally posted by LENG i'm thankful for the thread cuz vizay had kinda inspired me in a way or another in making my own supersaw (although it's from a cheapo 3xosc). least i picked up some good tips along the way (in the thread). thanks for the thread, i appreciate it.

wow that's really cool to hear
that was one of my main points with creating this thread. I want people to explore this sound more and find new uses for it. The time when you use the supersaw as in Rank 1 - Airwave is past since long now and I keep hearing new ways of using the sound and new ways to create it every day. After all exploration is what drives most of us to keep creating music

well said, vizay

For anyone who uses Reason (version 3.0), here's a supersaw combinator patch I made. It's very basic and clean sounding, most suitable for pluck leads and background stuff. It has two "waveform" modes. An octave shift button (It shifts the secondary oscs down one octave).

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This thread has been really useful to me. I've learned alot.
I wouldn't want it to die.

eldritch that was impressive, most impressive!
I was personally not that fond tho of your eqing where you cut out all the low frequenceis but that's more a matter of taste and easily fixed

overall one of the absolutley best supersaw sounds for reason I've heard...if not the best

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Originally posted by Vizay feel free to motivate why mate... I usually just ignore people like you but to be honest I'm getting really fucking tired of people dissing a certain type of sound or a certain artist just to act cool and try to be like the rest of the "cool guys" in the scene. -First of all, what gives guys like you the right to say what's good and what's not? -and second, who the fuck are you anyway? learn to tolerate others opinions or just shut the fuck up...

This guy is realy easily fired up, this is just too much. Suicidal maniac if yo ask me. I'm not dissing a certain sound or artist at all, I don't know where you got that information.

just to clear one thing up, if you read my post again you will see that I'm not insinuating that you were dissing an artist, you did sound like you were dissing the supersaw waveform since you wanted this thread to die. I simply don't believe that you wrote it because you thought this thread was too long. Threads with much info usually are long and that's never a negative thing. if you think that then you are browsing forums overall for the wrong reasons.

and as I wrote to you in my answer to your PM, no I'm not suicidal and no I'm not a maniac (I can't see what that even has with this to do tbh).

and btw. why are you so shure that I'm a guy?


ohh and another thing, you haven't answered my second question yet

i'm liking this supersaw patch (3xosc)... hope it doesn't sound for-hard-trance-only... hehehe

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...891JFS7TOSMU2B9

i read in many forums underestimating this synth... well, i hope this will give this lil dude justice

The 3Osc is such a good synth.

I always use it. Most people seem to over look it in favour of the bigger "more pro" ones.

3Osc is good for Basslines, leads, pads, strings, acid (to some degree) and you can get some good textures out of it too with tweaking.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 The 3Osc is such a good synth. I always use it. Most people seem to over look it in favour of the bigger "more pro" ones. 3Osc is good for Basslines, leads, pads, strings, acid (to some degree) and you can get some good textures out of it too with tweaking.

The only reason for this is that not everyone uses FLStudio and people go for more univesal plugins "Native Instruments and Novation for example". I'm not saying the synth sucks "but it lacks a good unison mode, which is required to make pads and leads not sound "fake"", all I am saying is that some people don't like using FLStudio or they can't because its Windows only. If only FL would be made cross-platform. They would get SO many more customers "me atleast, looks like good software ((EVEN though I will never leave Ableton Live ;-))."

Bump!!!

This is mega saws guys, I want to keep this thread alive.

alright... time to revive this massive fat thread.

here's my run on the supersaw with v-station.
lemme know if ya think it needs fixing.

clip:
http://files.to/get/61280/46931/aramanja_-_memories.mp3

This is my sample, and i made a tutorial on it, if u check the forum

Made with V-Station, not external fx added.

Enjoy

MP3 HERE

PLAY IT LOUD!

hi substorm... i noticed you used noise in the saw pad of yours... the clip sounded a lil bit noisy with the extra noise you had there. maybe if you could try minimise it a lil bit more (or better still have it off), it could just sound better anyway, it's just personal preference...

Im getting pretty close with a Virus B. I think a couple more revisions and some touching up on the post EQ and a fecking pair of monitors so I can hear what I'm doing ( ), I'll have it almost dead on within the next 2 months. Will need feedback on the EQ as I havent cross referenced it on headphones yet. It may have too much top end past 18,000hz and not enough upper mid range.

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The entire sound cannot be played back in 24 voices. Not with the release envelopes as long as they are. In order to get a similar timbre to the supersaw oscillator, I had to use 3 notes with unison x5 on and the 3rd oscillator.

That is 3x 5 voices = 15 voices to play chords.

Then, I doubled it up in FL Studio, which is another 3x 5 voices = another 15 voices.

Then I rendered intervals being played with slightly higher detune (unison detune was already on 127), higher panspread and a slower attack envelope.

The whole thing was mixed at the recorded output levels and the end result = 15 + 15 + 10 voices = 40 voices at 4 oscillators per voice.

That is, 120 detuned saw waves and 40 triangle waves. 2 to 3 times that number if you factor in the delay. Thats a lorra saw waves. More than I expected in order to simulate supersaw timbres anyway.

There are 2 instances of Fruity Delay on it, SIR reverb and a number of post/corrective EQs.

As of today, I think I have the timbre down, nearly perfect. But the post EQ is not right yet. The overall sound is still duller at the upper mid kind of area than the JP Supersaw - at least the sample I am referencing this patch from.

If I could get a recording of a raw supersaw oscillator played at C2, C3. C4 and C5 at various unison settings, then a filter resonance sweep soundtest of a supersaw oscillator, I think I can model it more closesly.

Here is my try : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/TranceDevotion%20/JP8000.mp3

it's the same patch... slight tuning...

oh yeah, please don't mind the quality, it's just the saw i'm trying to emphasize here... the bass, submelo, and melody are using the same sound set. beats aren't fx'ed...

http://files.to/get/62871/8464/untitled.mp3

does anyone have any tips on making supersaw's in sytrus? i like 3x0sc but i mainly use sytrus...for everything really hehe but i cant get that sound just right

thanks

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Originally posted by Dj_Es-Dva does anyone have any tips on making supersaw's in sytrus? i like 3x0sc but i mainly use sytrus...for everything really hehe but i cant get that sound just right thanks

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=347494

Hehehe!

This thread is still alive.

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Originally posted by Eldritch http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=347494

thank you sooo much!!!

Bump!

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Originally posted by LENG alright... time to revive this massive fat thread. here's my run on the supersaw with v-station. lemme know if ya think it needs fixing. clip: http://files.to/get/61280/46931/aramanja_-_memories.mp3

Hi,

This one with v-station sounds very good!

Did you use EQ on it to get it so bright? If so, which EQ and which settings?

Also, could you PLEASE post the patch for this!

Actually, I would like to ask this to everybody, if you post an mp3, could you also post the patch of it and give info like EQ settings etc.. so that other people can also make that sound. A production forum like this is about helping each other! I really hope people still have that spirit in mind when they come here. Thanks!!

Last remark: if you post, use a link that stays alive.. if you don't have your own webspace, just get a free webhosting account.. there are enough out there.. Thanks!!

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Originally posted by Dance123 This one with v-station sounds very good! Did you use EQ on it to get it so bright? If so, which EQ and which settings?

yeah, i used eq just to brighten it up a lil bit...

here's the set...


p/s: sent ya a pm

Leng that preset sounds really nice! .

could you post it or something?

LENG - Your smaples are awesome!!
How do you do that?!

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