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| Originally posted by solgrabber does it really matter it took 28 years? i faintly recall a lot of people wanting the wall to come down for what it "stood" for? |
communism fell appart because of him

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| Yea it does man. The Communist gov't was far more oppressive that the Bush one, and it took 28 years for enough support to be gathered against it. |
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| Originally posted by solgrabber your missing the point, 28 years or 100 years the point is something that was wrong eventually was fixed. |
why is this going on still? howmany forums does this need to be put on?
its perfectly alright to not be accepting of waht happend... and some of the evidence for other stuff does make sense but lots of it doesnt. stfu already
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| why is this going on still? howmany forums does this need to be put on? |
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| Originally posted by cyper http://www.pushhamburger.com/who_rules.htm Heres a good link about U.S. Media. I suggest you read the whole thing before making a comment. |
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| Originally posted by solgrabber as many forums as possible. clearly something is wrong and it needs to be addressed or "fixed". |
that is not fixed firestarter. the ATS site you refer to is a proven spook site with tons of disinformation
one member was already caught red handed trying to pass disinformation on that very same site. it's no secret what that site promotes to the real researchers or people in the know.
below is a good link to learn how disinfo is spread throughout that site/forum. you can read how they catch one member caught excluding vital information from his conclusion of the tower collapses.
http://www.911eyewitness.com/truth/...=viewtopic&t=21
i read that report you linked firestarter but like all the others we have seen it still cannot answer a very basic question. their theory of the "liquifying jet" when making impact sounds nice and all but how did it manage to pierce over 9 feet of reinforced concrete?
they also mention the black box was recovered but never played to the media because of the harm it would do to the victims families. funny because the last time i checked these families want an answer to what happened to their loved ones not more question marks?
what did this firefighter just say?
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yeah it was fires that brought those buildings down. 
The explosives in the towers are really not that far fetched, in fact I am going to present some facts and I apologize if this thread takes a new direction ahead of time.

This picture above clearly shows the extreme measures they went through in order to make sure these towers were not going to ever come down by passenger aircraft. Pay close attention to the backbone reinforcement clearly visible in this picture. Both towers had this built in and it was a first in construction engineering.
Here is a real picture of the backbone during construction...

Now lets take a look at the picture below.
This "pancake" theory does not work simply because in order for the tower to come down in 13 seconds (which it did) everything below the crash zone would have to be already blown out.
If everything below the crash zone was left untouched the building should have taken anywhere from 45-60 seconds to collapse. Below explains why....
I am going to be nice and give 1/2 second/floor x 90 stories (tower was 110 stories but impact was at 90) = 45 seconds
THE TOWERS (+ WTC 7!) FELL TOO FAST AND WERE TOO THOROUGHLY DESTROYED!
http://911blimp.net/prf_FreeFallPhysics.shtml
THEY FELL THROUGH THE PATH OF MAXIMUM RESISTANCE TO WITHIN 1 SECOND OF FREE-FALL TIME IN AIR!
Look at the World Trade #7 demolition, anyone else notice the penthouse giving way first in the collapse (top left)? Yes its an implosion people fires DO NOT cause this.

The resemblance of the WT7 tower free fall compared to the trade towers is no coincidence. (you will need DIVX to watch the video below)
http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/uploads/wtc7-divx3.avi
This picture below helps a little more. Why is it the debris (tons of steel columns) is being ejected out from the building?

Only powerful and massive explosions throw tons of steel columns outward and create the mushroom effect. (yes please look and the pic below, lol)

Heck while I am at it lets not forget the thermite used in conjuction with the explosives as the added touch ensuring these buildings fell into their own footprints.
Thermite - A thermite reaction (a type of aluminothermic reaction) is one in which aluminium metal is oxidized by an oxide of another metal, most commonly iron oxide. (The name thermite is also used to refer to a mixture of two such chemicals.) The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental metal and a great deal of heat. The reactants are commonly powdered and mixed with a binder to keep the material solid and prevent separation.

That's molten steel you see pouring out from the tower in the picture above. A thermite reaction was taking place in the towers, the pictures dont lie.
Yeah I did my homework.
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