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Posted by Civic on Apr-02-2006 10:03:

what makes this cd great is James understanding of creativity - for example Angels on your Body - it�s a 110 bpm Ambient Track and he uses it as a "normal" technotrack - I think he has a very good feeling for using tracks in a different meaning - great cd


Posted by websley on Apr-06-2006 22:27:

Aphex Twin - Xtal >>> Milky Globe Vs Holden - Sun Spots

Just plain shitty

I also think Holden sees the early techno ambient artists as "trendy" and "hip" and for clubculture use, but i'd rather listen to them at home when I'm eating my dinner or something. I also think it's a pretty stupid idea to mix tracks together of which the ending should be open and calm.

But that's just my point of view


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Apr-13-2006 22:09:

Does anyone know when this damn CD will be released in the US?

It was listed on Amazon as an import with a release of 3/27/06, then switched almost on that day to 4/11/06, now they're saying it'll take 4-6 weeks to ship.

I haven't heard this at all and have stopped by a few record stores in NYC hoping they'd have the import, but no luck. It's really getting annoying. Would anyone like to share for the next 4-6 weeks? I'm going to be quite pissed if I wait all this time and don't like the CD.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-13-2006 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I'm going to be quite pissed if I wait all this time and don't like the CD.


You still haven't gotten it illegally yet


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Apr-14-2006 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
You still haven't gotten it illegally yet

Yeah, I know, I don't really do the torrent thing. I have enough sets as it is and most of my time on a computer is spent at work where I can't install anything. I was much more on top of things when I was in college and had more time and control over the computer. Wanna send me a link??


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-14-2006 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Yeah, I know, I don't really do the torrent thing. I have enough sets as it is and most of my time on a computer is spent at work where I can't install anything. I was much more on top of things when I was in college and had more time and control over the computer. Wanna send me a link??


I'll pm you in a day or so. I'm uploading a whole buncha stuff right now. But sure, I'll *ahem* let you sample it.









Posted by RapidFire on Apr-14-2006 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
I'll pm you in a day or so. I'm uploading a whole buncha stuff right now. But sure, I'll *ahem* let you sample it.










I too would like to "sample" this if possible?


Posted by Dj Minaya on Apr-15-2006 21:52:

US RELEASE DATE!???!


Posted by Coup on Apr-15-2006 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
I'll pm you in a day or so. I'm uploading a whole buncha stuff right now. But sure, I'll *ahem* let you sample it.


I'm not going to pretend illegal music sharing doesn't happen but please don't talk about it or arrange to perform some with another member on the forums.

thanks.


Posted by kush paintings on Apr-24-2006 04:57:

I have had 2 listens now of disc 2, yet to listen to disc 1, and there is nothing that excites me on here. There is hardly any emotion shining through, aside from Malcolm Middleton - Solemn Thirsty appearing about 15 minutes into the mix. It is a very forward thinking mix, and that is something to admire on its own. However, it seems the ever-forward thinking Holden has forgotten (or abandoned) what has made him successful. His style currently, is on to something, at least in my opinion. Rather than throwing glitchy track after track, think if he interjeccted a few more songs with melody and soul in them, like Malcolm Middleton's track. Juxtaposed against the at times, harsh sounding, glitchyness of Holden's style, and you have a new formula that I have never heard be used consistently in an EDM mix comp.


Posted by Aitizaz on Apr-26-2006 22:51:

im surprised no one has mentioned Lazy Fat People - Big City...the transition from the previous track to this is absolutely amazing!!!! the buildup to the track is so tribal...with those instruments taking you into this african journey n then 'Big City' starts playing....very nicely done!


Posted by Simon on Apr-28-2006 02:19:

Where can I buy this online for download?

Edit: Meh, nevermind. Amazon it is.


Posted by refuge on Apr-28-2006 06:11:

This mix is just decent, nothing mindblowing. Few notable tracks here and there, but not even 1/10 the quality of Balance. Not worth your money. Just my 2 cents.

R.E.F.


Posted by noikeee on Apr-28-2006 08:16:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
There is hardly any emotion shining through




seriously, this isn't a random compilation of soul-less, emotion-less minimal tracks. i think it's one of the most emotional (decent) things i've heard in the last few months. listen to it again plzkthx.


Posted by websley on Apr-28-2006 12:47:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0


seriously, this isn't a random compilation of soul-less, emotion-less minimal tracks. i think it's one of the most emotional (decent) things i've heard in the last few months. listen to it again plzkthx.

Descent is NOT the same as emotional


Posted by Phortastic on Apr-28-2006 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by websley
Descent is NOT the same as emotional


de�scent
1. The act or an instance of descending.
2. A way down.
3. A downward incline or passage; a slope.
4.
1. Hereditary derivation; lineage: a person of African descent.
2. One generation of a specific lineage.
5.
1. The fact or process of coming down or being derived from a source: a paper tracing the descent of the novel from old picaresque tales.
2. Development in form or structure during transmission from an original source.
6. Law. Transference of property by inheritance.
7. A lowering or decline, as in status or level: Her career went into a rapid descent after the charges of misconduct.
8. A sudden visit or attack; an onslaught.



e�mo�tion�al
1. Of or relating to emotion: an emotional illness; emotional crises.
2. Readily affected with or stirred by emotion: an emotional person who often weeps.
3. Arousing or intended to arouse the emotions: an emotional appeal.
4. Marked by or exhibiting emotion: an emotional farewell.


Shockingly you seem to be totally right


Posted by websley on Apr-28-2006 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
de�scent
1. The act or an instance of descending.
2. A way down.
3. A downward incline or passage; a slope.
4.
1. Hereditary derivation; lineage: a person of African descent.
2. One generation of a specific lineage.
5.
1. The fact or process of coming down or being derived from a source: a paper tracing the descent of the novel from old picaresque tales.
2. Development in form or structure during transmission from an original source.
6. Law. Transference of property by inheritance.
7. A lowering or decline, as in status or level: Her career went into a rapid descent after the charges of misconduct.
8. A sudden visit or attack; an onslaught.



e�mo�tion�al
1. Of or relating to emotion: an emotional illness; emotional crises.
2. Readily affected with or stirred by emotion: an emotional person who often weeps.
3. Arousing or intended to arouse the emotions: an emotional appeal.
4. Marked by or exhibiting emotion: an emotional farewell.


Shockingly you seem to be totally right


Lol

But what I meant, is that some music doesn't have to be emotional to have the listeners' attention. Music that sounds minimal, can get very deep into the groove or "texture" of the music. It's ecsactly what the most of these artists on the CD are trying to tell. It's probably a thing that Holden doesn't even know

And that's why this CD sounds uneasy for any minimal/techno/IDM-listener. It's just a thing DJ's would do to to give "prog" a new meaning. And with every attempt, they make shittier music and bad consepts imo


Posted by Phortastic on Apr-29-2006 11:31:

quote:
Originally posted by websley


But what I meant, is that some music doesn't have to be emotional to have the listeners' attention. Music that sounds minimal, can get very deep into the groove or "texture" of the music. It's ecsactly what the most of these artists on the CD are trying to tell. It's probably a thing that Holden doesn't even know

And that's why this CD sounds uneasy for any minimal/techno/IDM-listener. It's just a thing DJ's would do to to give "prog" a new meaning. And with every attempt, they make shittier music and bad consepts imo


i see what u mean and i can understand it totally. I like minimal too sometimes so i know perfectly what u mean. And i agree with you that its nothing out of this world or not something that will be remembered as Balance 005. Nonetheless this is a good compilation IMO


Posted by Groundhog Boy on May-04-2006 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Does anyone know when this damn CD will be released in the US?

It was listed on Amazon as an import with a release of 3/27/06, then switched almost on that day to 4/11/06, now they're saying it'll take 4-6 weeks to ship.

I haven't heard this at all and have stopped by a few record stores in NYC hoping they'd have the import, but no luck. It's really getting annoying. Would anyone like to share for the next 4-6 weeks? I'm going to be quite pissed if I wait all this time and don't like the CD.

Finally just received the CD from Amazon UK along with Alex Smoke's new disc. Only cost be 23 pounds ($42.70), including shipping, which was cheaper than buying both in the US and waiting 4-6 weeks for Holden like the Amazon site says. I finally got ahold of this a few weeks ago and liked it upon first listen. That said, I think this gets better with each listen. CD 2 is just amazing for listening throughout the day.

I'm curious to see how he'll be tomorrow night, though, as it doesn't really strike me as typical dance club music.


Posted by razzi on May-10-2006 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I'm curious to see how he'll be tomorrow night, though, as it doesn't really strike me as typical dance club music.


i actually just saw him at vision in chicago on saturday night. his set was only from 3-5am, but it was interesting no less. very smooth, quieter/minimal and a bit too slow imo. the first half of his set was softer, but then it picked up with petter - some polyphony. after that the energy lifted and more of the crowd got into it.

in all honesty, his style on balance 005 is way more club appropriate.. unless its a minimal, slow, semi-lame atmosphere all night long until the last hour. just not my cup of tea.

razzi.


Posted by Plastick on May-10-2006 16:02:

Got mine yesterday for SGD49.90... I'm so sad that the case was cracked when I opened the wrap.


Posted by shaolin_Z on May-11-2006 21:10:

I haven't heard much from James Hodlen, but since when did he start mixing IDM? (Not that I'm complaining BTW, so far I find this to be an interesting compilation)


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