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Posted by Vlad on Apr-18-2006 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
He tops out at 89 MPH now. 3 years ago, he was at 97. That's a lot of "stuff" to lose.



Thats rough, I dont watch many games, so I cant really watch the numbers - I just read alot whenever I get a chance to shuffle through BP, ESPN and Yahoo.


Posted by partyhopper on Apr-18-2006 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Pedro gets his 200th win. Yay. I think this is Pedro's last "great" year.


Great game out at Shea
It's funny seeing the Mets fans make fun of the tomahawk chop
I hope there's much more of that to come


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-18-2006 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Thats rough, I dont watch many games, so I cant really watch the numbers - I just read alot whenever I get a chance to shuffle through BP, ESPN and Yahoo.


It makes you wonder though. If last year, topping out at about 91-92 the first half and 88-89 the second half, he had such a great year... imagine what he could've done if he still had that 97 MPH fastball and pitched the way he does now.

Best. Pitcher. Ever. And I'm not afraid to say it.


Posted by verndogs on Apr-18-2006 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
It makes you wonder though. If last year, topping out at about 91-92 the first half and 88-89 the second half, he had such a great year... imagine what he could've done if he still had that 97 MPH fastball and pitched the way he does now.

Best. Pitcher. Ever. And I'm not afraid to say it.


I think you're afraid lightning may strike your head if you don't say it


Posted by Vlad on Apr-18-2006 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
It makes you wonder though. If last year, topping out at about 91-92 the first half and 88-89 the second half, he had such a great year... imagine what he could've done if he still had that 97 MPH fastball and pitched the way he does now.

Best. Pitcher. Ever. And I'm not afraid to say it.



Im not afraid to agree either, his numbers in a batters era are amazing. I posed that question to alot of other people and I got Nolan Ryan and Clemens as answers, they are great, but Pedro has just been so consistently dominant its rediculous.

And my friend, nobody maintains a 97mph fastball after over a decade pitching in the majors. But I am surprised hes not throwing in the low 90's, he probably does but not all the way through.


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-18-2006 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Im not afraid to agree either, his numbers in a batters era are amazing. I posed that question to alot of other people and I got Nolan Ryan and Clemens as answers, they are great, but Pedro has just been so consistently dominant its rediculous.

And my friend, nobody maintains a 97mph fastball after over a decade pitching in the majors. But I am surprised hes not throwing in the low 90's, he probably does but not all the way through.


I don't expect him to. But he went straight from 97 to 89. And no, he doesn't throw low 90's. If he REALLLLLY needs to, he can hit 92. But he does that about once every 3 or 4 games. He's consistently 86-89.

Nolan Ryan is SO overrated.


Posted by Vlad on Apr-18-2006 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
I don't expect him to. But he went straight from 97 to 89. And no, he doesn't throw low 90's. If he REALLLLLY needs to, he can hit 92. But he does that about once every 3 or 4 games. He's consistently 86-89.

Nolan Ryan is SO overrated.



The only reason why Nolan is mentioned is because he could throw a fastball 100mph and the fact that he pretty much struck out everyone that walked up to the plate. You gotta admit, he is 1,000 SO's ahead of the person in 2nd who happens to be Clemens, its impressive.


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-18-2006 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
The only reason why Nolan is mentioned is because he could throw a fastball 100mph and the fact that he pretty much struck out everyone that walked up to the plate. You gotta admit, he is 1,000 SO's ahead of the person in 2nd who happens to be Clemens, its impressive.


And... where is he on the career BB list?


Posted by Vlad on Apr-18-2006 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
And... where is he on the career BB list?


What a coincidence, he is also in first... by almost 1,000.

ROFL!

But he also had a much longer career than most pitchers ever dream of having.


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-18-2006 04:46:

Yep. I just think he's overrated. Not saying he's bad. But he's not nearly as good as the general perception of him is.

Also... he had 7 no-hitters. All after being traded from the Mets. The Mets, as a franchise, have none.


Posted by trunks1022 on Apr-18-2006 06:11:

as a franchise... well you have steve trachsel in triple A pitch one!!

great game tonight. ban the wave, and punish all those who participate in it by having their asses penetrated by donkey dick. thank you. if you're bored, leave the stadium ffs. pedro topped 90, 91 when he struck out andruw jones late in the start. good stuff.


Posted by Stunade on Apr-18-2006 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Is the AmEx promo on their site? I didn't see any mention of it.


As soon as you go on the homepage, there's a banner on the top left that says, "Save $100 now".

How DARE you put BONDS over GEHRIG!!!!!ARE YOU NUTS???? Imagine if he was NOT terminally ill. He could fucking STILL kick everyone's ass.


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-18-2006 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Stunade
As soon as you go on the homepage, there's a banner on the top left that says, "Save $100 now".

How DARE you put BONDS over GEHRIG!!!!!ARE YOU NUTS???? Imagine if he was NOT terminally ill. He could fucking STILL kick everyone's ass.


And imagine if Ted Williams never went to war. Or Mickey Mantle never destroyed his knee. Or Ron Necciai was able to get Tommy John surgery.

Barry Bonds was a ridiulous hitter in the 90's. Don't hate because he wasn't a Yankee or because he did steroids late in his career.


Posted by Stunade on Apr-18-2006 22:37:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shamez214
And imagine if Ted Williams never went to war. Or Mickey Mantle never destroyed his knee. Or Ron Necciai was able to get Tommy John surgery. /QUOTE]

As you guys say..."srsly" still can NOT compare

Stunade never hates-she nice


Posted by trunks1022 on Apr-18-2006 23:51:

^^^

you lose


Posted by Vlad on Apr-19-2006 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Stunade
As soon as you go on the homepage, there's a banner on the top left that says, "Save $100 now".

How DARE you put BONDS over GEHRIG!!!!!ARE YOU NUTS???? Imagine if he was NOT terminally ill. He could fucking STILL kick everyone's ass.



Fact of the matter is the numbers at the end of a career, whether they were injured or went to war. And no matter what you say - there is no hitter feared more, since the days of the Bambino, than Barry Bonds. There is a reason why he leads major league history in base on balls. The guy tee's off on base balls (unlike alot of the pure hitters of the game) and if he reaches on base, if hes healthy - hes likely to steal a base.


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-19-2006 01:58:

Barry Bonds was the best All Around player in baseball since Willie Mays.


Posted by partyhopper on Apr-19-2006 19:16:

Looking like it's gonna be the same ol' same ol' story for Mets vs. Braves


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Apr-19-2006 19:17:

i love reading this thread really i do


Posted by Stunade on Apr-19-2006 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
^^^

you lose


I lost what my virginity? Yeah I know that...

I can never put Bonds up where the others are.


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-20-2006 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Stunade
I lost what my virginity? Yeah I know that...

I can never put Bonds up where the others are.


Which is silly. Regardless of what happened between 97-99 with Bonds, he was one of the greatest players EVER before then. Forget just the hitting... (1.000+ OPS from 1992 - Now). But he has 500 career Stolen Bases. And he has however many gold gloves. Do you know how hard it is for a Left Fielder to win a Gold Glove?


Posted by Vlad on Apr-20-2006 01:16:

Barry Bonds...

7 Time NL MVP
3 Time ML Player of the Year
3 Time Hank Aaron Award (Done during the roid controversy)
8 Time Gold Glove winner
12 Time Silver Slugger

Uhhhh... yea...


Posted by partyhopper on Apr-21-2006 02:49:

For the 3rd straight year, Kaz Matsui hits a home run in his first at-bat of the season
This time it was an inside-the-park HR

Too bad he hasn't done much after hitting that first homer
Let's hope it's different this year


Posted by Vlad on Apr-22-2006 05:57:

This Mets game just wont fucking end!


Posted by DJ TRACE on Apr-22-2006 07:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
This Mets game just wont fucking end!


fuck the mets


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