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Originally posted by Swamper

yea now that i think of it, the answer to this question is obviously going to vary greatly in each person and/or couple. it's all about preference and what each person/couple is comfortable with.

there are some women out there who don't really care if their man gets wasted with the boys and does a little dirty dancing with some random chick...as long as he comes home to her, and no numbers were exchanged or fondling (like someone said earlier) she's cool with it, and she trusts him.

it's the same shit as letting your man go to a strip club.

i think some people in here are being a little unrealistic, but hey, that's you and your beliefs and as long as you and your partner are on the same page with everything, then that's your business.

"Does my arm-pit smell?"

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Originally posted by l�cid so basically, as long as you and your partner are compatible and have good communication, there shouldn't be any excuse for going elsewhere for excitement or sexual satisfaction. the only ones responsible for keeping your relationship new/exciting/satisfying/etc are YOU and your partner. being a man isn't an excuse for being a shitty boyfriend or husband.

Are you aware of the extent to which your views are cultural, or culture-induced?

America is a very egalitarian and idealistic country, with politically correct and gender-neutral attitudes to sex and love. But America is not the whole world. In Southern Italian villages, for example, the vast majority of husbands have affairs with other women, which is silently accepted by everyone although never discussed in public. And I remember reading a survey that in Germany, a significant number of Germans (perhaps even the majority) don't have negative views of extramarital sex.

My girlfriend wants to be able to flirt around and
"grind" on the dancefloor. She wants me to accept it, and
she says I can do the same.


The thing is, and I won't tell her this, but if I were to
flirt around with other girls, I'd end up fucking them. That
kinda ruins the whole idea of a relationship

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The girls i go for, my mates always say i can get better looking ones. They cant see past looks.

Class

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Originally posted by diffusion I'd end up fucking them. That kinda ruins the whole idea of a relationship

so you have no will power to stop that from happening?

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Are you aware of the extent to which your views are cultural, or culture-induced? America is a very egalitarian and idealistic country, with politically correct and gender-neutral attitudes to sex and love. But America is not the whole world. In Southern Italian villages, for example, the vast majority of husbands have affairs with other women, which is silently accepted by everyone although never discussed in public. And I remember reading a survey that in Germany, a significant number of Germans (perhaps even the majority) don't have negative views of extramarital sex.

i'd actually be very interested in seeing some valid studies and/or statistics that prove the differences between American vs European views on monogamous relationships. i did notice a huge difference in the way men and women presented themselves while i was in Greece... it seemed like men had a lot more of the "power" or freedom and the women seemed a lot more timid and shy.

sure, certain Europeans cultures might be more accepting of stuff like that, but the act of cheating is universal... and in the end it's really up to the two people involved in the relationship to decide what is or isn't considered cheating, regardless of their culture or where they live.

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Are you aware of the extent to which your views are cultural, or culture-induced? America is a very egalitarian and idealistic country, with politically correct and gender-neutral attitudes to sex and love. But America is not the whole world. In Southern Italian villages, for example, the vast majority of husbands have affairs with other women, which is silently accepted by everyone although never discussed in public. And I remember reading a survey that in Germany, a significant number of Germans (perhaps even the majority) don't have negative views of extramarital sex.

It's a pretty good point that got brought up. I'm from Europe originally, been living in US half of my life though. I have absolutely no problems with extramarital sex or open relationships where you or your partner sleeps with other people while being in a relationship with you. Seriously, I don't understand the jealousy and possessiveness that comes with American relationships at all.

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sure, certain Europeans cultures might be more accepting of stuff like that, but the act of cheating is universal... and in the end it's really up to the two people involved in the relationship to decide what is or isn't considered cheating, regardless of their culture or where they live.

The act maybe universal, however the gravity of the act is not. let's not get all bent out of shape over cheating.

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Originally posted by Aquadyne The act maybe universal, however the gravity of the act is not. let's not get all bent out of shape over cheating.

to you it might not be a big deal, but when it comes down to it, cheating usually = disrespect, dishonesty, broken hearts, broken trust, etc... how can anyone remain happy when that is what their relationship is made of?

i mean it's a completely different story if you have an open relationship and BOTH people involved understand and communicate about what is or isn't appropriate... but i'm talking about flat-out cheating, going behind your partners back and betraying the trust.

i've been on both sides of the cheating spectrum and i've seen what it does to people and their relationships.

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i mean it's a completely different story if you have an open relationship and BOTH people involved understand and communicate about what is or isn't appropriate... but i'm talking about flat-out cheating, going behind your partners back and betraying the trust.

if a tree falls down in the woods and there's no one to hear it, does it really make a sound?

if i cheat on my girlfriend and she never finds out, did i really cheat?

man, i'm good.

lucid and rtj should recuse themselves from this thread.

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Originally posted by Aquadyne if a tree falls down in the woods and there's no one to hear it, does it really make a sound? if i cheat on my girlfriend and she never finds out, did i really cheat? man, i'm good.

lol... if you can live with the guilt, and the chance that someday she might find out.

personally, it ain't worth it to me.

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Originally posted by Swamper

hahah yes! del your the man.. where is that at berlin?

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Originally posted by igottaknow lucid and rtj should recuse themselves from this thread.

lol

I already did. My opinion on the matter is well documented

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lol... if you can live with the guilt, and the chance that someday she might find out.

Guilt? haha

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Originally posted by igottaknow lucid and rtj should recuse themselves from this thread.

but we set such a good example! lucid + RJT for the poster-couple of America!

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Originally posted by igottaknow lucid and rtj should recuse themselves from this thread.

agreed

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Originally posted by l�cid but we set such a good example! lucid + RJT for the poster-couple of America!

that smiley look like its bonin the other one in the ass! Is that how RJT likes it?


kidding....... kidding

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Originally posted by grooviebeats that smiley look like its bonin the other one in the ass! Is that how RJT likes it? kidding....... kidding

no, it's a smoochy attack.

are any of those girls swamper's gf?

it doesnt matter. just break up with her 2 weeks later just like planned. don't hate the playa, hate the game

this thread reminds me of the foot massage discussion in pulp fiction.

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Originally posted by Protege this thread reminds me of the foot massage discussion in pulp fiction.

I was thinking that too.

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Vincent: Would you say you're a good grind dancer? Jules: Hey! I'm the grind dancing MASTAH! Vincent: Would you grind dance with a man? Jules: F*ck you...

Come on, if i grinded with a girl at a club, i'd get a slap from my girlfriend and she'd probably never trust me again. If I seen my girlfriend do it, i'd be outta there for good...
Jeez, are you telling me that if you seen your girlfriend rubbing up and down a random guy with a huge sweaty boner by her arse, you'd be happy?

If my girlfriend danced with any of my friends, it would be all good, but no grinding unless it's with one of my gay friends...

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Originally posted by Swamper

You just used this thread as an excuse to post this pic didn't you?

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