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Originally posted by fcuk � Italy showed a solid performance against Scotland to gain 3 valuble points. Man of the match imo either goes to Oddo or Zambrotta. They now have to win every match in order to qualify.

i dont believe Italy has to win every match to qualify.....if im rite evey1 has 7 games left and Italy is notourious for being slow starters.....
I dont think scotland or the ukraine will continue with there winning ways.....and france will prbly get through.....

Im juss really pissed off at the Italian organization for hiring Doni as the coach for Italy....hes a very in experience coach but we'll see wat will happen.....

There is no doubt that we can make it. I don't know about Donadoni I still think Lippi should've stayed but we'll give Doni a chance his first step is to make us qualify for Euro.

England are pretty much fucked, no?

Polonia : )

POLSKA POLSKA POLSKA Finally started playing like a team , After that terrible World Cup We got this !

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 England are pretty much fucked, no?

Still so much time....
It wont be easy, since they still have to go to Russia, but they should do it

how about that Denmark - Sweden game eh ?

they released thazt guy allready

pwned Finland

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 England are pretty much fucked, no?

no not really theres not really any points between all the teams

Losing 1-0 today to Armenia was the most embarrasing thing i've witnessed in a while.

belgium losing 5 in a row now

hasnt happened since the sixties

you know last time i checked - Paris Hilton has no ass...

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 England are pretty much fucked, no?

If Croatia beat Israel and England beat Russia in the next round of games, its over, they both qualify

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Originally posted by George Smiley Well, can any of the Celtic countries qualify for this one?! Scotland and Northern Ireland not a chance! But Group D might not look so bad for the Welsh and Irish who might fancy themselves against the Czechs (who have a tasty looking derby match against their neighbours Slovakia)

Just searched this, you might know Politics but you know fuck all about football!!! Check the sig for info!

Hahaha j/k still a hell of alot to do

^^I'd LOVE Scotland to qualify...but it'll still be REALLY tough for them to do it


PS ur sig is INSANE
Good on ya

RUSSIA!!!

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Originally posted by TheVrk If Croatia beat Israel and England beat Russia in the next round of games, its over, they both qualify

too bad England choke yet again, even though they had the early lead. I'd feel ashamed to put on that jersey right now and I'd feel even more shitty to be the manager. There is still an outside shot that England can get in, although they need to trounce Croatia (unlikely) and hope Israel or Andorra (LOL!!!) can hold Russia to a draw. What a fucking disaster.

I'll always be an England fan since it is my blood but my god, how the mighty have fallen indeed.

Hardly mighty.

what have england ever won in recent footballing history?

I'm talking about recent times as in the last 40 years. Before 1950, England were without question the biggest footballing nation but out of their own arrogance, did not compete in the World Cup. One of the winning Italian sides from the 30s was beaten by England 8 nil a few months after the World Cup. At least one or two of those early World Cups would have been England's had they participated before the rest of the world caught up.

Anyway it doesn't matter. This current generation are a bunch of overpaid chokers.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Anyway it doesn't matter. This current generation are a bunch of overpaid chokers.

Agree 100%. I was born in England, so the team will always have my support, but wow, the current crop and the manager are utterly useless. It's a strange sensation actually, imagining a tournament without England, but I guess it could be good for safety (less hooligans in Switzerland/Austria) and none of the silly drama all over the media every single time England is eliminated from any tournament. This might actually give the team the required wake-up call to perform at the level at which they're actually capable of producing, and indicate to the FA that they need to bring in a proper manager.

And btw, I'm in Waterloo too (Weber & Albert). What about you?

I'm on Weber too but only just a few blocks north of Bridgeport, not far from my first (AWESOME) apartment I had when I moved here September 2006. I'm only here until the Spring and then back to London once I finally get this fucking thesis finished and graduate with my MA. I could be back for my PhD in a year or two though...it's a nice town.

But I agree with you except about that hooligan thing. There is trouble from a lot of fans these days, not just English. English fans are often unfairly targeted by other nation's hooligans and local police because of their reputation from the 1980s which is a bit unfair. I remember when I saw an England-Germany game in Detroit in 1993...I was only a kid but my dad had to fend off crazy German fans and my 70 year old Grandpa at the time knocked one of them out...all because we had England stuff on. It's quite stupid if you ask me.

But yeah, the FA needs to clean house and establish a proper Academy system. Of course, none of this will be possible when foreign managers (like Sven) continue to bring in foreign talent into the English League. England is too big a footballing nation to flounder like this...in my opinion, it's not good for the game.

My my my, what an exciting end to the Euro qualifications we have on our hands. Scotland losing today will be a boost and bit of relief for Italy as now we can accept a draw but a loss can send us packing.

Scotland has to win to keep dreams alive as France will easily win their last game unless something disastrous happens, which i really hope does happen .

England was a shock, im happy with the result though.

Pretty much all of the other big teams are through the only remaining are Italy, England, and maybe Portugal.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 I'm talking about recent times as in the last 40 years. Before 1950, England were without question the biggest footballing nation but out of their own arrogance, did not compete in the World Cup. One of the winning Italian sides from the 30s was beaten by England 8 nil a few months after the World Cup. At least one or two of those early World Cups would have been England's had they participated before the rest of the world caught up. Anyway it doesn't matter. This current generation are a bunch of overpaid chokers.

Who cares if england were the mightiest footballing side pre war. That was fuckin decades ago. In the here and now, england aren't that good. And the sooner your supporters realise that the better for everyone.

As for football that really matters. Group B is shaping up to be a fantastic finish. Isn't it just like us scots to bottle it against the smaller nation. It's going to be quite a day of football at hampden when italy come to call. As a fan of italian football I'm left torn as to what I want from the game. Seeing scotland and their fans return to tournament football would be really special and great for the game in this country, but loosing the world champions because of it would detract from the spectacle of the euro championships I feel.

Whatever the result I know I'm going to take it tight for being a half tally in glasgow. Can't fuckin wait but.

Here are all the maths, simplified. Took me a while but I was bored.

QUALIFIED TEAMS
Austria (hosts)
Switzerland (hosts)
Greece
Czech Republic
Germany
Romania

REMAINING SLOTS
2 slots to be decided between Poland, Portugal, Serbia and Finland
2 slots to be decided between France, Scotland and Italy
1 slot to be decided between Norway and Turkey
2 slots to be decided between Croatia, England and Russia
2 slots to be decided between Sweden, Spain, Denmark and Northern Ireland
1 slot to be decided between Holland and Bulgaria

OUT OF EURO 2008
Belgium, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Lithuania, Georgia, Faroe Islands, Bosnia, Hungary, Moldova, Malta, Ireland, Cyprus, Slovakia, Wales, San Marino, Israel, Macedonia, Estonia, Andorra, Latvia, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Albania, Slovenia, Belarus and Luxembourg


**************************** GROUP A ****************************

Poland 24
(automatically qualifies with a win in the remaining 2 games)

Portugal 23
(automatically qualifies with a win and a draw in the remaining 2 games)

Serbia 20
(depends on Portugal or Poland to lose points)

Finland 20
(depends on Serbia or Poland to lose points)

Belgium 15
Armenia 9 with -2 games
Kazakhstan 7
Azerbaijan 5 with -2 games
(all eliminated)

Key matches:

17/November Serbia-Kazakhstan
17/November Portugal-Armenia
17/November Poland-Belgium
17/November Finland-Azerbaijan

21/November Serbia-Poland
21/November Portugal-Finland

**************************** GROUP B ****************************

France 25
(automatically qualifies with a win against Ukraine)

Scotland 24
(automatically qualifies with a win against Italy)

Italy 23 with -1 game
(automatically qualifies with 2 draws in the remaining 2 games, or a win against Scotland)

Ukraine 16 with -1 game
Lithuania 10 with -1 game
Georgia 10
Faroe Islands 0
(all eliminated)

Key matches:

17/November Scotland-Italy

21/November Italy-Faroe Islands
21/November Ukraine-France

**************************** GROUP C ****************************

Greece 25
(qualified)

Norway 20
(automatically qualifies with a win against Turkey, or a draw against Turkey and a win against Malta)

Turkey 18
(automatically qualifies with 2 wins in the remaining 2 games)

Bosnia 13 with +1 game
Hungary 12
Moldova 9 with +1 game
Malta 5
(all eliminated)

Key matches:

17/November Norway-Turkey

21/November Turkey-Bosnia
21/November Malta-Norway

**************************** GROUP D ****************************

Czech Republic 23
Germany 23
(both qualified)

Ireland 16 with + 1 game
Cyprus 14
Slovakia 13
Wales 13
San Marino 0 with +1 game
(all eliminated)

**************************** GROUP E ****************************

Croatia 26
(automatically qualifies with a draw against Macedonia, or a defeat against England by less than 2 goals)

England 23 with +1 game
(depends on Croatia or Russia to lose points)

Russia 21
(automatically qualifies with 2 wins in the remaining 2 matches)

Israel 17
Macedonia 11
Estonia 4 with +1 game
Andorra 0
(all eliminated)

Key matches:

17/November Macedonia-Croatia
17/November Israel-Russia

21/November England-Croatia
21/November Andorra-Russia

**************************** GROUP F ****************************

Sweden 23
(automatically qualifies with a draw in the remaining 2 games)

Spain 22
(automatically qualifies with a win against Sweden, or a draw against Northern Ireland)

Denmark 17
(depends on Spain to lose points)

Northern Ireland 17
(depends on Sweden or Spain to lose points)

Latvia 9
Iceland 8 with +1 game
Liechtenstein 7 with +1 game
(all eliminated)

Key matches:

17/November Spain-Sweden
17/November Northern Ireland-Denmark

21/November Spain-Northern Ireland
21/November Denmark-Iceland
21/November Sweden-Latvia

**************************** GROUP G ****************************

Romania 26
(qualified)

Holland 23
(automatically qualifies with a win, or 2 draws in the remaining 2 games)

Bulgaria 19
(depends on Holland to lose points)

Albania 11
Slovenia 11 with +1 game
Belarus 7
Luxembourg 3 with +1 game
(all eliminated)

Key matches:

17/November Bulgaria-Romania
17/November Holland-Luxembourg

21/November Belarus-Holland
21/November Slovenia-Bulgaria

Some of these teams are in yellow, but have a really unlikely chance of going through, like Bulgaria, Denmark or Northern Ireland, who depend on too many unlikely things.

Well done! Looks great.

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