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Originally posted by dxsire if you think this event was even satisfactory, chances are you've never seen anything good.

Yup... you're right
I've been going to EDM shows since 96, but you're right, I have no clue what a good show is...

Oh yeah, could you please define 'good' for me, because my opinion is clearly not shared by you, therefore I must be wrong. Thanks

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Originally posted by Dirichlet Yup... you're right I've been going to EDM shows since 96, but you're right, I have no clue what a good show is... Oh yeah, could you please define 'good' for me, because my opinion is clearly not shared by you, therefore I must be wrong. Thanks

pssshhhtt 96...who you tryin to fool kid...you only been on ta sice 2005 LOL jokesjokes =P

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Originally posted by kadomony ID? http://www.youtube.com/v/OpSegVdA2xM

its your boy Carlo

4 strings - take me away (purple haze mix)

-looks like i was beat

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Originally posted by kid nyce i think it was satisfactory and maybe you are right...in the 5+ years i've been a part of TA I haven't seen anything good! ok I lose! but take these words of wisdom through out your clubbing life and experience that the word satisfactory in terms of how he preforms, the audience he draws, and the amount of production dollars that go into his set up did impress me in comparison to Armin's Tobacco Warhouse fluke. Both were decent parties but neither deserved the words you just expressed. To me it was a real show because A - he showed up and preformed B - production and sound was above par C - people came, danced, and cheered That's pretty much a real show if you ask me. As you begin to see show after show, venue after venue, you learn to accept that this is this DJs niche, this is who he is and what ultimately captivated me you and anyone else. You'll learn to not compare and/or expect anything from the DJ. Your opinion has a lose translation of disappointment. I think you need to see more shows to understand what's going on here.

This is the best post yet. Thank you for saying these words. After 8 years of this, I agree with you 100%. Nuff said

Can someone explain to me why when people write negative reviews, lots of people take offense like that person's personally criticizing them for enjoying it? Does everyone have to agree with you for your opinions to be validated, otherwise you wonder if there's something wrong with your hearing/perception/etc? Half of the time, I don't even really bother to write reviews anymore if I don't have the ambition or time to fight off the impending bitching about me as a person because I disagree with someone. Even when I do, I tone them down if you can believe it.

I've seen PvD probably 10 times in the past few years and the two Central Park shows (2005 and 2006) have been my least favorite musically. I enjoyed Roseland a few months ago and Roxy last fall. I don't know what it is about the outdoor gigs, because I enjoyed Ultra Miami in 2005 in the sunlight, but I have yet to enjoy one of the big outdoor productions in NYC. Hopefully Ultra with Digweed, Junkie XL and Soulwax will change that.

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Originally posted by StanVoid You can't lie - it worked for most of the people at the party. I mean I remember strangers all around me saying shit like "wow" and "this is incredible" all night long. I didn't hear a single "boo" or "play something else" comment.

Even I wouldn't boo what he was playing, I'd just leave if I were that fed up. As I said originally, I thought he started out well, but then lost me. I stuck it out though, hoping he'd return to form, but it didn't happen. I will say, and the few of you that I ran into later on can confirm, that I was saying as it was happening that I thought his mixing sucked. Barosoap can definitely confirm and she wasn't arguing about the instances I'm talking about. And the worst part of me complaining about some of the tracks he played, like Alter Ego - Rocker, is that I love that track. It just didn't belong there in the set, and ended in like 2 minutes to lead into one his productions that I hear out every time I see him.

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Originally posted by StanVoid This post made me think about PVD's set in an attempt to sum it up with one word - and I came up with "fresh". It was just that, a refreshing set of various musical styles blendig together in an energetic mix that kept most of us dancing and smiling. I mean he went from melodic proggy stuff that had summery chill tracks, to more funky prog with mean basslines and deep grooves, then he exploded into full on trance mixed with dark tech tracks. His music was off the wall, it was so original. Yeah, I saw armin at the tobacco warehouse, it was a fucking ASOT episode, but longer. But all he played was either asottish prog or asottish trance - wow, how awesome. PVD, on the other hand, isn't afraid to diversify his set with funky house even. I mean house sucks by itself, but when placed properly in a banging set, it can really add some serious groove to the party. And that's exactly what PVD did. You can't lie - it worked for most of the people at the party. I mean I remember strangers all around me saying shit like "wow" and "this is incredible" all night long. I didn't hear a single "boo" or "play something else" comment. The show was something else, and I really do feel sorry for people who didn't click with the music and atmosphere that day. What's surprising is that I'm a real trance fan, I love uplifting, epic, energetic trance. More than anything else. More than tech, dark, or prog trance. DEFINITELY more than house. But PVD managed to encorporate all of those styles in one set (maybe 30% of it was actual uplifting trance), and I thought the whole -set- was amazing. That just shows how the man can bring variety to the table in a fresh way, making you love the music itself, not its genre.

Once again....WORD!!!!!! Nice to read truth....

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Originally posted by kid nyce pssshhhtt 96...who you tryin to fool kid...you only been on ta sice 2005 LOL jokesjokes =P

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Originally posted by DJDavidScott Nice to read truth....

There is no "truth" when it comes to reviews. It's a subjective experience. Just because someone agrees with you does not make it true.

I'm glad you liked the set. You really shouldn't care so much whether everyone agrees, though.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Can someone explain to me why when people write negative reviews...

I don't know if that was in reference to my response... but, I have no problem with someone writing a negative review... {i.e., yours - you didn't think the mixing was good (I too heard at least 4 times on Sat night when the tracks weren't properly matched), you didn't like the track selection, etc.}
What I don't like is when people use their negative review to berate another person's opinion. (i.e. dxsire, "chances are you've never seen anything good"). There's no need for that, IMHO

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy There is no "truth" when it comes to reviews. It's a subjective experience. Just because someone agrees with you does not make it true. I'm glad you liked the set. You really shouldn't care so much whether everyone agrees, though.

Just to clarify...The comment regarding PVD's eclectic mix of music and style was what I found truth in. I can't see that being denied. Also, people's opinions do not concern me...it's more of what Dirichlet was talking to: the outright berating of another person's opinion...

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Originally posted by Dirichlet I don't know if that was in reference to my response... but, I have no problem with someone writing a negative review... {i.e., yours - you didn't think the mixing was good (I too heard at least 4 times on Sat night when the tracks weren't properly matched), you didn't like the track selection, etc.} What I don't like is when people use their negative review to berate another person's opinion. (i.e. dxsire, "chances are you've never seen anything good"). There's no need for that, IMHO

It wasn't at you. It's just a common theme that I see after every big DJ's gigs.

Lordy, it gets so contentious in here. I think we all need to look at the picture of that puppy that someone put up a while ago.

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Originally posted by DJDavidScott it's more of what Dirichlet was talking to: the outright berating of another person's opinion...

You guys haven't seen what happens when I've complained about a set and been in the minority on here, have you? I've definitely been outrightly berated more than a few times for not beig a fanboy and being critical of something someone else liked. Sometimes weekly, I think.

Also, what you said about the eclectic track selection, I agree, and I like when he does that and it fits. Maybe he does better over 6 hours than 4, which is why I enjoyed Roseland and Roxy more than the Central Park gigs. As I said before, he was just putting together tracks that didn't belong together, which is more what i meant by mixing than technical beatmatching when I said the mixing sucked.

And it's not restricted to PvD. I was standing next to SidMl for Dominik Eulberg @ Cielo a few weeks ago and he transitioned one track into another that just made us look at each other like

Anyone have the tracklist?

I enjoyed myself Saturday night in the park. Nothing can top a nice summer's evening with lasers and trance.

I too was annoyed with the drummer. He almost made Paul mess up Rank 1 - Airwave. And on principal I came up from DC to see PVD not this random dude. The only good thing about the drummer was that he seemed to liven up Paul. Normally he's stoic and boring. Saturday he was dancing around like a little kid.

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Originally posted by akaufma2000 Anyone have the tracklist?

No one bothered because both nights are being broadcast on Sirius this Friday.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy As I said before, he was just putting together tracks that didn't belong together

He's always done that though

Track ID

Great show, and the drummer did a pretty good job. And now since all of you seem to know so much about music and Dj's here,how about telling me what song PVD played at exactly 9 PM on saturday.
The only clue I remmember is that I heard a Prog House version of that back in March played by Ali and Sharam in Crobar. Female vocals, who almost sounds like Nadia Ali, but is not..

generic and dull tracklist i thought. i take back that maybe you haven't seen anything good, but it just wasn't well done. it stopped midway into it, that basically ruins the time for me in the first place. i split to the outside after that, because the people partying outside were more into it. people weren't really dancing inside... it seemed like alot of people that have never really been to an event before.

i heard more people asking if pvd was any good than anything about how good he is. i went with about 15 people who have been going to events for years, and everybody agreed that the event wasn't good. he didn't play a single track that actually excited anybody, except for 4strings. i think he dropped royksopp - what else is there. in there too if i remember, and that's a pretty dope track, but didn't mesh with the rest of the stuff he played. i couldn't dance to any of it really...

i'm not trying to offend anybody, just give an honest opinion, and hopefully next year will be better so the people that read all these positive reviews and get excited will have something to be excited about.

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Originally posted by dxsire was the worst set and event i've ever been to in my entire life. music was terrible. live drummer was frequently off, i just don't understand how anybody could have enjoyed that. HIS SHIT DIED SATURDAY IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS SET. that's just terrible. I can't believe it, must be embarrassing. Or maybe he doesn't give a shit. Every time I've seen PVD it seems like he doesnt give a shit anyways. its a paycheck. if you want to see a real show, see armin. real emotion, and actually good music. tiesto is good too. actually, almost anybody but pvd. i went this year and last and will definitely never waste my money on that shit ever again. if you think this event was even satisfactory, chances are you've never seen anything good.

+ 1 ... and these herbs on here make fun of tiesto , at least when I saw tiesto it was none stop Energy and Heard Tons of Sick New Tracks . Going to see armin this oCt 1st time Cant wait -> Going to see pvd in roseland for one reason only , cause im gettin in for free Hopefully he will change my mind about him but if he ends his set the same way he always does Im not gonna catch a pvd show for a whileee .... Last time in roseland he was pretty solid its just Every single track he drops sounds the same idk

yea, all the tracks just seem generic. thanks for making me sound a bit more sane in here after all these praises of the show. i'll be at armin in october too.

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Originally posted by dxsire generic and dull tracklist i thought. i take back that maybe you haven't seen anything good, but it just wasn't well done. it stopped midway into it, that basically ruins the time for me in the first place. i split to the outside after that, because the people partying outside were more into it. people weren't really dancing inside... it seemed like alot of people that have never really been to an event before. i heard more people asking if pvd was any good than anything about how good he is. i went with about 15 people who have been going to events for years, and everybody agreed that the event wasn't good. he didn't play a single track that actually excited anybody, except for 4strings. i think he dropped royksopp - what else is there. in there too if i remember, and that's a pretty dope track, but didn't mesh with the rest of the stuff he played. i couldn't dance to any of it really... i'm not trying to offend anybody, just give an honest opinion, and hopefully next year will be better so the people that read all these positive reviews and get excited will have something to be excited about.

your sooo Right like Me and my friends where dancing but there were alot of people just standing around . My friends said his set was ok nothing special . Alot of people complained about the dull tracklist after he was done with his set Haaaa when his Laptop crashed I started laughin this guy next to me was like Go back to records lolz so True

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Originally posted by dxsire yea, all the tracks just seem generic. thanks for making me sound a bit more sane in here after all these praises of the show. i'll be at armin in october too.

Bro I totally agree with you , I have the same opinion . All you gotta do is compare pvds tracklist to armins or Tiestos and you see whos is more Fun We should meet up I didnt get to meet alot of TAs , I cant wait I just turned 18 so its gonna be my first time in crobar hehe

If you wanna hear some good shit tonight tune in for my Show - > 9pm www.afterhours.fm you got a sn ?

compairing armin to paul is like compairing Armin's control freak to the bootleg paul plays in his set.

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lol... i had something typed in response to trace and dxire, but i decided to stop caring =)

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Originally posted by DJ TRACE Bro I totally agree with you , I have the same opinion . All you gotta do is compare pvds tracklist to armins or Tiestos and you see whos is more Fun We should meet up I didnt get to meet alot of TAs , I cant wait I just turned 18 so its gonna be my first time in crobar hehe If you wanna hear some good shit tonight tune in for my Show - > 9pm www.afterhours.fm you got a sn ?

Just turned 18...

interesting...

Happy belated Birthday...

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