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-- Al Azar presents Glaciation... The Album.
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This is great guys. Really great. Words can't say how good it is. Seriously. This deserves a commercial release.
Thanks for the feedback (and the bump 
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There's some new material in the works... release date and content still unknown 
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| Originally posted by SuspicionVandit http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ighlight=remedy preview july 03. then i brought it back up in jan-2004 since the song was never released LOLOLOLOOL forever forgotten 2004 http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ighlight=remedy and then released in it's full pirated copy. song is bad fucking ass. i'm an idiot. my first question was wether Al Azar (you or Mart) make any MONEY off anything music related wether it's DJing or production or do you just like sticking it to the RIAA with free music? did Expanse Recordings ever take off? |
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Compared with most of the posts on tranceaddict, the harmony, frienship and constructivism of this section amaze me. Please forgive me if I sound rude, but rest assured I�m giving you the most honest review I can possibly write. I have a very limited vocabulary but I will try to do my best.
First impression: I Heard it a couple of times. One before going to sleep, and interestingly I didn�t fall asleep.
Glaciation can be described in one word, WEAK. It lacks that element that captures the listener attention. It was painfully boring to hear, however I gave it a chance to hear it until the end. Why is this album lacking of personality? Because it is not aggressive. You are being too shy when developing melodies; and melody is everything. Although you have nice elements like details, some good transitions, and a couple of nice ideas; the main failure of this album is the lack of developed melodies.
LV241 - It is nice to start an album with an original intro like this. It seems however a copy of Armins remix of Aria - Dido. The slow beat is unnecessary and a better choice would have been a subtle melody instead.
Decapod 10 - Two horrendous melodies here. The first ones is a 4 tone melody that doesn�t work, and I emphasize again that the lack of development of melodies is the main failure of Glaciation. The second one is a more developed one but it�s also boring. Some nice elements like the mano a mano of melodies, but that only work if those were good.
Infinitude - I hate breaks, sorry. The guitar idea was nice but again a weak 4 tone melody does nothing. Suddenly the tune is saved by what I consider the only actual melody of the album. You could have developed it more however; being the main melody it is not used enough through the tune.
Hypnotoad - Finally some trance. That bass could have had a more protagonic role. The drums were a nice twist. The 4 tone melody is useless; monotony and more monotony again again again.
Voyage Into Darkness - It welcomes with a repetitive boring melody and fails completely when the slow breaks come in. Interesting details however can be heard, like the voice on the background.
Arctic Dawn - This is just a transition between two tracks. It could have been more effective if shorter.
Lost Without Trace (No Way Back) - Oh noe more breaks. However the most unpleasant aspect of this track is the shameless melody on the background. What is that? A 3 tone melody? Please. It tries to get better when the rhythm accelerates. I heard some acid elements in the last part, nice ideas but those only work on really fast tunes.
Orchestral Interlude - This would have been a great intro. No rushed beat, subtle melody. Short melodies work when there is slow or no rhythm.
No Such Thing As Two - I almost gave up at this point. Breaks and 5 tone melody. You have good elements that could work if the melody had more personality, but not on this mediocrity.
Esquilax - Interesting bass. Full of details.
Wither - This almost works because of the first piano melody. It is somehow nostalgic. The one that comes after that is monotone and out of place.
Lights Out - Very very good start, subtle melody which sound powerful because there is no rythm; the perfect end for an album. It reminded me of Jarre. Then the breaks comes in and all goes to hell. Nice effort however, as it is filled with little details.
Hidden track - It shouldn�t be hidden because it could have been used as a more proper ending.
Transitions: One bias I have when listening artists albums is that they cant be listened from the same perspective of a mix CD. Artist albums will sound much less varied, so the transitions, or whatever are called on an artist album, are a completely different thing. Some times there are no transitions between tracks, which is strange because they are actually good. You have some good elements to make transitions larger and avoid the change of tracks being so evident.
Title: Maybe it was the radio talking on this first tune, but from start to end I thought this album had nothing to do with a Glaciation. It gave me the impression of a futuristic movie like Terminator or something, but no a glaciation whatsoever.
Covers: Why are the covers so small? They are useless at that size. Anyway they were designed for the title of the album which was a wrong choice.
Overall: Never heard of Glaciaton before. I read the description where it said a journey through styles, including Psy............. Psy ???????????? I mean PSY???????? How dare you?
I like to listen music while not doing other things with my head. For example, not when working. I do it when going in a bus, when waiting for a person, etc. That allows me to appreciate very subtle details that you can�t if you have your mind somewhere else. Well this album is full of those little details, obviously you invested hard efforts on it, which is potential for future proyects; but monotony of melodies embraces Glaciation.
Suggestions: Develop your melodies, risk to be more agressive, 4 tones melodies doesn�t work. It turns the music repetitive and boring. The melody from Infinitude piano is a good start, but they can be improved by expanding them to different notes. I don't know the musical term but I know you have heard for example a melody that loops several times, and then suddenly that same melody starts looping in a higher range of notes. You can use that. You could develop rythms and bass even more, as you have some interesting ideas. Esquilax and Hypnotoad are good examples.
Thank you.
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| Originally posted by The Master Why is this album lacking of personality? Because it is not aggressive. |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery This is where I stopped reading. |
Glaciation - an aggressive pounding experience! Yeah right...
But the guy said he was linguistically impaired, so maybe aggressive means deep or strong. I have to agree the there's something off with this album, but it's just the "cheap" sound that often is coupled with semi-professional productions, though much less that in many "professional" productions.
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| Originally posted by The Master Great way to handle objective criticism. |
His main point seems to be that the melody's on the album dont progress enough/aren't capturing enough - is that not fair criticism which is worthy of consideration?
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| Originally posted by Bruce His main point seems to be that the melody's on the album dont progress enough/aren't capturing enough - is that not fair criticism which is worthy of consideration? |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't mind people not liking our work but that's not going to make us change how we do things either |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I mean why would you listen to an album from 2 guys who are mostly known for doing breaks when you admit hating breaks? Of course you're not going to like any of it. |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I can handle objective criticism just fine, but yours clearly wasn't... I don't mind people not liking our work but that's not going to make us change how we do things either |
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| Originally posted by most reviewers ...Wonderful... ...Omgtunes... ...Brilliannnnnt... ...10/10 really... ...it stand out from the rest. ... ...it's been a while since i've had goosebumps... ...Perfect album... ...Brilliantly done... ...Top notch ... ...absolute masterpiece... ...Excellent... ...absolutely stunning... ...Words can't say how good it is... |
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| Originally posted by The Master If you don�t have a place for some little harsh honesty (probably the ONLY one in this thread), and the only criticism you are going to take is in the lines of: |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I appreciate you listening to the album and bothering to write all those comments |
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| Originally posted by The Master Advice: If you're not really going to change anything about what and how you do things, then what is this forum for? I mean music is for people to listen; if you dont take in consideration the feedback people is giving, who will listen? How will you evolve? |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery People evolve naturally. I often wonder "what the hell was I thinking?" when listening to my old tracks, one doesn't really need outsider influence to evolve. I believe an artist should have enough artistic integrity/vision that he/she doesn't need to listen how other people want his/her music to sound (see my pop slush comment in previous reply). I've said this before in a different thread, but I can take aboard comments when we're talking about purely technical issues like mixing/mastering/EQ/whatever but what I do with my melodies is my decision and my decision alone (and in this case Mart's, of course ).I put my stuff here for showcase purposes and for promotion, not so much for feedback. After all, this forum is called Music Producers Promotion |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't suppose anyone would like to give feedback on the sequencing of the tracks? I spent a lot of time on it personally, I'd be interested to know whether or not it works for you guys. |
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| Originally posted by [mart] Or even a little bit of feedback on the individual tracks would be lovely, if you could spare the time. |
Sequencing of the tracks isn't a part of the track creation process - I wanted to hear whether the tracks flowed well (in other words, the track order). And the second bit isn't even a comment of mine
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