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Posted by shaw on Sep-14-2007 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
now move on to other more important things, like finding good music that most people want to hear and can get into, being a dj means more than beatmatching a bunch of "tracks" that you find on the internet that YOU are into.



Posted by stev�sto on Sep-14-2007 17:37:

oowoah i almost fainted. they get "booked"! that changes everything.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-14-2007 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
oowoah i almost fainted. they get "booked"! that changes everything.

Keep on digging, cowboy


Posted by spc on Sep-14-2007 17:50:

I'd rather go see a RJT, UWM, Clovis lineup over DT any day. I've seem him 3 times in NYC and I was impressed only one night with his selection and mixing. (I was also shitfaced-drunk too so that probably had a little more to do with it)

Can you assholes come to New York and play?


Posted by RJT on Sep-14-2007 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy

Don't get too excited they use ableton, it beat matches for you, however i don't believe there is anything wrong with ableton for recording sets i just cannot stand to see dj's using it in clubs boring as hell for me..



I find it amusing how happy you are to make ignorant assumptions about other people that are completely baseless and without any merit what-so-ever.

Time to book you yet another trip...



With the number of times you've ridden that thing, I hope you're getting the equivalent of frequent flier miles...


Posted by stev�sto on Sep-14-2007 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Promo sets aren't necessarily sets that rock the dance floor. A DJ might have made the set geared towards more chilled out setting.

As for this DT set, I had to adjust the volume on my mp3 player many times because the levels were terrible, beatmatching was sloppy at times and track selection was ok, but nothing spectacular. Not to mention his 'tricks' sounded mostly off and made the set sound awkward in general.

That's just my opinion. If you like trainwrecks in mixing, hey, good for you. Might as well just hire a monkey to put in cds because for most people, occassional slip ups in transitions is acceptable, but really noticeable ones multiple times is just sloppy.

A good mixing without a good track selection is worth nothing I agree, but most of us hold a PROFESSIONAL DJ to a minimum standard of technical skills, which generally incl. consistent mixing.


i didnt hear any trainwrecks. a trainwreck used to be when beats completely clashed and sounds like crap. but to overly anal robotic beatmatching machines known as wannabe djs, a trainwreck means when the beats are slightly off for a moment and isn't perfect. normal clubgoers (human beings) dancing their ass off don't completely stop and walk off when they happen to hear beats not aligned scientifically perfect. other dj's and trainspotters and various other douches from the internet in the crowd will ignore the fact people are having a good time and instead harp on a non perfect beatmatched transition, shake their heads and be snobs. normal club goers don't do that, they're just having a good time. an amateur dj not respecting a pro dj because of not perfect beatmatching because they are holding them to a higher minimum standard of technical skills is silly when they cant entertain a crowd nearly as well. too much focus on something that doesn't need nearly as much attention as it does. ive said this before many times, peeps need to take off their judgement hats and put on their party hats. the best state of mind for appreciating what is good music is when you are the least judgemental.

DT has always received tons of respect for his ability to work a floor. now suddenly because of his gay ass crappy personality in this letter, the focus shifts to anything that can be pointed out as bad in his set. amazing. wait, no is not, this is tranceaddict.


Posted by RJT on Sep-14-2007 18:26:

By your own definition there are several trainwrecks in that Tenaglia set - which leads me to wonder, have you even listened to it, or are you just talking out of your arse?


Posted by Allayla on Sep-14-2007 18:27:

lol you take this waaaay too serious man, i was assuming ableton because you started a thread title ::::::::::::OFICIAL ABLETRON THREAD ALL INFO IN HERE GAIS:::::::::::: :: and i always hear clovis saying beatmatching is soooOO child's play, even his 3.5 yo red headed step brother can pull it off, clearly trying to justify his ableton use, which is fine because he's right but my point regarding dj technique still stands

rjt why do you get so hurt on the internet? <-- serious question


Posted by RJT on Sep-14-2007 18:29:

There you go assuming something again. Don't blame me for preferring accurate representation of myself as opposed to your nonsensical blathering.



Edit: And that thread was deleted specifically because of my not wanting to waste my time on cunts like you


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-14-2007 18:33:

Edit:

Nevermind.


Posted by Allayla on Sep-14-2007 18:37:

what page is that set on i wanna see what all the fuss is about, is he still playing tribal


Posted by stev�sto on Sep-14-2007 19:50:

page 4


Posted by MR STROKE on Sep-14-2007 20:23:

This thread has become so retarded that its time to post some stupid gifs




























Posted by Danny Ocean on Sep-14-2007 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Danny Tenaglia sets aren't that great anyway


better than yours or RJTs who says DT's are overrated.

If anyone knew anything, they would know that there are only like 5 recorded danny tenaglia sets. hes never liked for his sets to be recorded, and thats his principle.
the guy has had amazing gigs in which he DJs for hours upon hours. Hes a really down to earth guy. He goes down to talk with the crowd after his shows, or to dance. I met him at Nocturnal once where he ordered a drink at the bar and i just happened to be next to him. Very cool guy, lots of respect.
Wht the club did was BS, and he has every right to be pissed.


Posted by bas on Sep-14-2007 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Ocean
better than yours or RJTs who says DT's are overrated.

I'm glad DT has fans. One of my good friends is a big DT fan. I just think he's one of the worst DJ's I've ever heard. Like I said before, I've seen him three times (just remembered a gig in Ibiza), once I left early, once I spent the entire time in another room and in Ibiza I just got annoyed with this tracks and again spent my time in another room.

Don't think I'm comparing myself to him at all


Posted by Clovis on Sep-14-2007 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
this DT rant is on 2 other forums, and on those forums they both say he's overreacting, he's a crybaby etc, but they also say he's still and always has been a great dj. but leave it to tranceforums for me to come here and see the same topic with the same reactions but with the difference is people saying he sucks as a dj. that's just pathetic and immature when it comes from people that post boring dj sets so yea i am going to call you out on it.



Theres clearly two camps in this thread.

1. People who don't really like DT much voicing their disgust at his latest ridiculous long-winded and pointless rant.

2. People who love DT no matter what comes out of his mouth and will badmouth any person who disagrees and call their DJ skills (if any) into question.


Which one do you belong to?

As I said in the post just above yours, he is a good DJ and has played legendary nights, surprise, some people aren't much into his sets, is that a crime? Is everyone on every forum supposed to bow before Tenaglia no matter how much adolescent banter he spews and how much he cries over someone recording a tiny part of one of his sets in low quality? I've paid money to see DT, I'm sure I have a right to say whether I liked him or not.

I also agree with starboy on his point:

quote:
Also about beatmatching being so easy and unimportant that's bs, it does take a good ammount of skill to keep every single mix ferfect and tight while the programming, eq, set structure, and creativity being tight as well.


It is easy, but to be consistent and tight requires alot of effort, and sometimes even the big guys can slack off in this department. As I've said before on this forum, I dont mind beats slipping, or fuck-ups here and there, we're all humans juggling with CD decks or big black records, I just want to know there is EFFORT being put into the mixing and beatmatching, as much effort as I would put in if I were behind the decks.


As for the lame cheap shots on different TA DJs, thats pretty sad. Alot of these folks put alot, alot of effort into their mixes, into scouring the internet and other sources to find fresh, interesting music (as opposed to sitting on 20 promo lists till the next radioshow deadline), and they have recieved alot of support from people here on TA, rightly so.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-14-2007 23:01:

Also, one more thing


Posted by wotyzoid on Sep-14-2007 23:02:

OOOOOOOOO...




Posted by UWM on Sep-14-2007 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
i didnt hear any trainwrecks. a trainwreck used to be when beats completely clashed and sounds like crap. but to overly anal robotic beatmatching machines known as wannabe djs, a trainwreck means when the beats are slightly off for a moment and isn't perfect. normal clubgoers (human beings) dancing their ass off don't completely stop and walk off when they happen to hear beats not aligned scientifically perfect. other dj's and trainspotters and various other douches from the internet in the crowd will ignore the fact people are having a good time and instead harp on a non perfect beatmatched transition, shake their heads and be snobs. normal club goers don't do that, they're just having a good time. an amateur dj not respecting a pro dj because of not perfect beatmatching because they are holding them to a higher minimum standard of technical skills is silly when they cant entertain a crowd nearly as well. too much focus on something that doesn't need nearly as much attention as it does. ive said this before many times, peeps need to take off their judgement hats and put on their party hats. the best state of mind for appreciating what is good music is when you are the least judgemental.

DT has always received tons of respect for his ability to work a floor. now suddenly because of his gay ass crappy personality in this letter, the focus shifts to anything that can be pointed out as bad in his set. amazing. wait, no is not, this is tranceaddict.


What exactly is your definition of a "wannabe DJ"? People who care about their craft and are bent on perfection? Does that mean anyone who tries at their job is a "wannabe (insert job here)"?

Also how are we all amateurs if we are getting paid to do it? There are obviously people out there who think we're doing something right.


Posted by Allayla on Sep-15-2007 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
As for the lame cheap shots on different TA DJs, thats pretty sad. Alot of these folks put alot, alot of effort into their mixes, into scouring the internet and other sources to find fresh, interesting music (as opposed to sitting on 20 promo lists till the next radioshow deadline), and they have recieved alot of support from people here on TA, rightly so.

just for the record i have not ever criticized your's or anyone else's mixes, to be honest i've never heard any of them


Posted by Clovis on Sep-15-2007 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
just for the record i have not ever criticized your's or anyone else's mixes, to be honest i've never heard any of them



I wasn't specifically aiming that at you, I meant evereyone in this thread in general. Also for the record, I havn't touched Ableton in months and I've been using CDJs at gigs and at home since I bought them almost 2 years ago...


Posted by Allayla on Sep-15-2007 03:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I wasn't specifically aiming that at you, I meant evereyone in this thread in general. Also for the record, I havn't touched Ableton in months and I've been using CDJs at gigs and at home since I bought them almost 2 years ago...

nice! if ur going to sasha and spooky i'll be there with my stargirl.. i'll buy you a drink


Posted by shaw on Sep-15-2007 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
1. People who don't really like DT much voicing their disgust at his latest ridiculous long-winded and pointless rant.

2. People who love DT no matter what comes out of his mouth and will badmouth any person who disagrees and call their DJ skills (if any) into question.


There are also the people who aren't familiar with anything more than his name, and are just reacting to these rants of his based on general expectations of DJs or any professionals.


Posted by MR STROKE on Sep-15-2007 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
I just think he's one of the worst DJ's I've ever heard.


BAN


come on I think your going a little far on that one...


Posted by bas on Sep-15-2007 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
just for the record i have not ever criticized your's or anyone else's mixes, to be honest i've never heard any of them


Does the drink apply to me too?

edit // Stroke, sorry man I just don't dig him. I don't understand the hype behind him. The only thing I liked from him was his Back 2 Basics cd, that is an AWESOME compilation. But he's never impressed me live. Ever.


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