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Posted by ponsshin on May-22-2008 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
Actually I use Ableton too, and based on the nonsense you've posted so far, I imagine you're still at the "What's a tempo" phase.

So please, spare me the "why doesn't he use it to it's potential" rubbish. It's a fucking piece of plastic like all other MIDI controllers, you slut.


please spare us all of the canadian monster ego deadmau5 syndrome then


Posted by LionsLair on May-22-2008 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
please spare us all of the canadian monster ego deadmau5 syndrome then


Deadmau5 seems humble, havent noticed a monster ego from him. But yah Alex is an idiot.


Posted by ponsshin on May-22-2008 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
But yah Alex is an idiot.


You might wanna take that back right now, HE KNOWS WHAT TEMPO IS!!!!


Posted by Nostalgic on May-22-2008 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles

Honestly, put up a thick curtain around the booth, and people wouldn't be able to tell whether it was Sasha and Digweed or two other similarly skilled DJs -- lots of them exist, guys, whether you want to believe it or not -- playing similar tunes to whatever S&D were spinning at the time.



I'm not a S&D worshipper by any means, I've been heavily critical of them the past couple years, but nobody was playing what they were playing in the 90s.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-22-2008 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Nostalgic
I'm not a S&D worshipper by any means, I've been heavily critical of them the past couple years, but nobody was playing what they were playing in the 90s.

Well, yeah, back then you had the access barrier of vinyl distribution in place, so it was easier for big DJs to get stuff that nobody else could and maintain their exclusive status that way.


Posted by Alex on May-22-2008 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
You might wanna take that back right now, HE KNOWS WHAT TEMPO IS!!!!


Oh man, I've created a dynamic duo of fail.


Posted by ponsshin on May-22-2008 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
Shut up you fucking basket case.



Posted by elFreak on May-22-2008 17:18:

google le freak insomniac delights and check sasha and digweeds tracklist 2 months later noobs....bas>digweed lol, lol beat matching.


Posted by Nostalgic on May-22-2008 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Well, yeah, back then you had the access barrier of vinyl distribution in place, so it was easier for big DJs to get stuff that nobody else could and maintain their exclusive status that way.


So how much of the stuff they were playing were distributed exclusively to them? The only tracks I can think of that were distributed only to them were the Breeder tracks.


Posted by Clovis on May-22-2008 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
The worshippers scavenge for the tracks because S&D do well at picking great tracks out of that sky high heap of tracks.


That may be what you think but that is not the opinion of a lot of people who are IMO playing much better music than them.


quote:

Really I dont think you have an idea how hard producer's work to wrestle their way onto a Sasha or Digweed tracklist. Many producers cater their music to their style of the moment.


Like who? Do you realize how absurd this claim is?


Posted by elFreak on May-22-2008 17:25:

do i have to post the i <3 clovis and bas pic? thats worth a google or 2.


Posted by Guest on May-22-2008 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
That may be what you think but that is not the opinion of a lot of people who are IMO playing much better music than them.



That doesnt happen. I'm sorry.


Posted by elFreak on May-22-2008 17:40:

lol...ok


Posted by Clovis on May-22-2008 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
That doesnt happen. I'm sorry.



Do what now?


Posted by RJT on May-22-2008 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
That doesnt happen. I'm sorry.




I can't think of all that many DJ's who aren't playing better music than those fellows at this point.


Posted by Clovis on May-22-2008 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT


I can't think of all that many DJ's who aren't playing better music than those fellows at this point.



If only that were true...


Posted by Max Thomson on May-22-2008 17:52:

I don't see why any decent human being can't just say "excuse me I can't talk right now" or "excuse me I'm in a rush" rather than completely ignoring someone. That said, I'm sure all those hours on the road does get to you eventually, but none of that even matters at this point cuz this thread has turned into such a clusterfuck.


Posted by Palladium on May-22-2008 17:54:

inb4zeedelete


Posted by Guest on May-22-2008 17:55:

YOU GUYS ARE WRONG ABOUT S&D. DONT MAKE ME PROVE IT


Posted by RJT on May-22-2008 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
If only that were true...


Unfortunately, in my mind it is.


Posted by elFreak on May-22-2008 18:16:

the drill the drill 4 laife


Posted by nchs09 on May-22-2008 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
YOU GUYS ARE WRONG ABOUT S&D. DONT MAKE ME PROVE IT
oh my.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-22-2008 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Nostalgic
So how much of the stuff they were playing were distributed exclusively to them? The only tracks I can think of that were distributed only to them were the Breeder tracks.

I'm not talking about just "exclusive" stuff like the Breeder tracks, but the fact that S&D would get promos mailed to them first, plus they could likely have people helping them sort out the gems from all the junk or mediocre tracks. Most DJs didn't have either of those advantages.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-22-2008 18:56:

By the way, I haven't really followed Sasha and Digweed for a while and have little clue what they play anymore -- what are they playing anyway? -- so it's not like I have some big stake in the outcome of this argument.


Posted by LionsLair on May-23-2008 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
That may be what you think but that is not the opinion of a lot of people who are IMO playing much better music than them.




Like who? Do you realize how absurd this claim is?


Like pretty much every producer that aims to have their tracks played by Digweed or Sasha, some dont fit the bill because S&D go outside of their standard sound and throw in some diverse tracks. But once S&D establish a sound they are playing for a time period, for however long that sound lasts, many producers take note and mold their sound to fit it. Where do you think movements in sound are born and sustained?

Producer's dont innovate a sound with every track they make, they listen to what their favorite DJ's are playing, and gravitate to that sound and cater their own sound around the DJ's they'd like to get play/support from. Because they know if they make music for Digweed or Sasha, there is a huge following of DJ's that will also pick up on their music.

Of course Digweed & Sasha arent the only ones that push producers, but they are two of the main inspirations for the direction many producers take their own sound. There are also producer's who produce music for a Club they frequent when they aren't shaping it towards the DJ's.


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