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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Oh dude, licky lick. You just like to poke poke. I swear. (insert rolling eyes). There's lots of cool stuff that I would call spectacular that fits onto one plate. 7 course meals went out with obesity.

7 course meals are actually pretty small.

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Originally posted by elFreak a 7 course meal is fancy. a bunch of dishes on one plate is not. she made fucking bell peppers with rice (probably instant) they make that shit in school cafeterias, omg get me a reservation. you can decorate a hamburger to look like a work of art, but guess what it is still a fucking hamburger.

I can have 1 dish and it still be fancy. I dont need a 7 course meal for it to be fancy.

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Originally posted by bas 7 course meals are actually pretty small.

True.

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Originally posted by bas 7 course meals are actually pretty small.

Just a bite or two of each course? I've never had a 7 course meal.

What is an example?

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Just a bite or two of each course? I've never had a 7 course meal. What is an example?

They're just much smaller portions, almost bite sized. The only thing that's relatively "large" is the entree portion and the desert.

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First Course Gorgonzola Polenta lemon-basil & sun-dried tomato butter sauce Second Course Wild Mushroom Soup rosemary, merlot, cream, crostini Third Course Northwest Wild Greens green apples, goat cheese and raspberry vinaigrette Fourth Course Lemon Sorbet with fresh mint Fifth Course Chicken Amore almond crusted with blueberries, peaches, & Grand Marinier Sixth Course Salmon de Provence horseradish crust, orange beurre blanc Seventh Course Macadamia Cups passion fruit cream and fresh berries

A 7 course meal is actually really good, it's a great way to get a taste of everything the restaurant has to offer. You should try it. Then maybe you can move onto a 12 course or a tasting menu (my new favorite thing to do ever!!)

7 course meals are very small portions designed to compliment each dish and make the palate react accordingly.

the amount of time and preparation needed to pull it off right is staggering. Even finding the right wines, aperatifs and digestifs to make it a pure progression of the senses can take days of research.

even the fanciest restaurants are not that fancy. The best food is simple, not overpowering while playing on the food's natural strength and showcasing local fresh products.

what jamie made is something you would see that whore rachel ray make with canned tomatoes in 30 minute meals.

i never said it wasn't tasty...it just isn't exactly the kind of recipe they taught us about in culinary school.(yes i went when i was younger).
You learn this recipe on the back of a cambells soup tin

ps a hamburger can be spectacular too...does not mean you will see burgers on iron chef.

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Originally posted by elFreak ps a hamburger can be spectacular too...does not mean you will see burgers on iron chef.

They do make them.

fucking truffles on a hamburger...you can tell the ingrediants are free lol.

Here's another example of multiple course meals/tasting menus.

I did this on my birthday at Craft here in Los Angeles:

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Warm Local Sardine, Valencia Orange & Fennel Gastrique Veal Tortellini, Saffron & Tomato Black Sea Bass Pot Pie & Shell Beans Roasted Quail & Apple Crepe Wagyu Skirt Steak, Savory Bread Pudding & Chanterelles Blaues Wander Cheese (Bern, Switzerland) Cr�me Fra�che Panna Cotta Lemon Verbena & Mixed Berry Sorbet Pineapple Tatin Avocado & Coconut

Then when I was in New York a few months ago I went to WD~50 and had a variation of this (they change their menu pretty frequently):

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Smoked mackerel, plum, cucumber, morcilla Grilled corn pebbles, lime mayo, scallion Hamachi tartare, wakame, sake lees tahini, grapefruit-shallot Knot foie Eggs benedict Crab tail, soybean noodles, cinnamon dashi Chicken liver spaetzle, pine needle, radish, cocoa nib Beef tongue, cherry-miso, fried quinoa, palm seeds Blackberry, honey, sour cream, green tea Jasmine custard, black tea, banana Toasted coconut cake, carob, smoked cashew, brown butter sorbet Yuzu ice cream-marcona almond

They bring each course out one at a time, it's not as if you have 12 dishes on your table at once

the first one looks ace, the second one a bit cluttered, but i would not comment on it until trying. Very ballsy combos, intrigued.

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Originally posted by elFreak the first one looks ace, the second one a bit cluttered, but i would not comment on it until trying. Very ballsy combos, intrigued.

That's WD~50's "thing". They blend food & science to come up with some crazy dishes. It's all very weird sounding and sometimes impossible (I had fried mayo and beef tounge ), but it's AWESOME. If you ever get the chance to check out a place like that I strongly recommend it

i am in new york at the end of october for the weekend.

i want names.

edit: nevermind lol

A buddy just graduated from culinary school. A couple days ago I had poached tilefish with a jolly rancher reduction and purple Peruvian potatoes.

The plate was like a Jackson Pollack canvas. The kid is an artist.

I need to marry a pastry chef.

If Jamie took longer than usual to prepare this - then it was special/fancy whatever.

To someone who eats dempster's bread with individually wrapped cheese slices for lunch every day, then stuffed peppers with oregano or whateverthefuck is "fancy".

To someone who eats baked cod with jasmine and mint jelly with a side of sauteed brains all the time, then it takes more to impress them.

A meal is special if you put time and effort into it. That's different for everyone.

if jamie is not efficient in the kitchen her man should not pay for it

putting a pop tart in the toaster longer does not make it more special.

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Originally posted by bas

Wow, nice.

These kind of meals aren't every day fare, though, are they? More for special occasions?

But, Elfreak, Jamie's meal would be considered a special meal (because of the time and effort) for every day? I mean she works and comes home and fixes this for her bf...

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Wow, nice. These kind of meals aren't every day fare, though, are they? More for special occasions? But, Elfreak, Jamie's meal would be considered a special meal (because of the time and effort) for every day? I mean she works and comes home and fixes this for her bf...

The one at Craft is $95 for 1 person. So yeah, not an "every day" type of thing.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Wow, nice. These kind of meals aren't every day fare, though, are they? More for special occasions? But, Elfreak, Jamie's meal would be considered a special meal (because of the time and effort) for every day? I mean she works and comes home and fixes this for her bf...

I'm busting balls.

i do all the cooking and i put in the time almost every day (sometimes we eat easy stuff too). If my girlfriend wants to eat it a different way i am fine with that because i still get to enjoy it like i intended it. Doing things solely for the approval of someone else is silly, and if it is the reason you do it you should not bother.

i can pat myself on the back, i am not insecure enough that i need my girlfriend to do this.

a 7 course meal every day involves cooking from the time you wake up...no one has the time.

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Originally posted by elFreak i make roasted pablano peppers with goat cheese and aged chedder in a porto reduction a few times a month. My girlfriend loves thhem and it takes like 20 minutes prep time tops.

recipe plz.

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Originally posted by elFreak my girlfriend

Twilight Zone?

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Originally posted by l�cid recipe plz.

i 'll pm it to you later.

idoru...huh?

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Originally posted by elFreak i 'll pm it to you later. idoru...huh?

Compare most of your posts to the ones that say "my girlfriend" and it just seems so... odd.

hint: i'm not like this irl

also in case of bored googles when she is at work

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