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Originally posted by ownymcown However, with all the gay rights movements and whatnot, homophobes see gay people as trying to advance an alternate set of values that conflict with their own (how? I don't know).

Their first mistake is in thinking that there is one set of values that everyone ought to have.

What a boring world that would be!

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Originally posted by Ania_xox I just find it irritating that you feel so threatened by someone's comments on your sexual orientation (enough to tell them you hope they get raped or something of that nature).

I don't feel threatened. I am the one that threatened the homophobe for saying gays should not adopt or popularize their viewpoint. The only thing irritating is that people like Boris_the_Bear still exist.

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You acknowledge the idea that our society is in a time of transition- a shift towards potential acceptance of homosexuality. Are you ignorant of the fact that your sexual orientation (and its social implications) currently bothers a lot of people?

What's your point, that I should look down on homophobes like they are starving African children and spend my life as some sort of social worker trying to mend their idiotic ways of thinking? I have better things to do.

Oh yeah, and to mock your quote: are you ignorant to the fact that you bother me? Maybe you should think about that.

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Whether or not you accept their opinion, you have to accept that change happens slowly. In the meantime, you can assert your sexuality in a manner that doesn't make you look like such a fucking twat.

Yes, I acknowledge that change happens slowly in certain areas. Meanwhile, people aren't going to hide being gay because your theory that dictates they have to SLOWLY introduce their sexuality to the mainstream. I'm sure their goal isn't to gradually shift the minds of a culture I live in so homophobes can feel comfortable. Their goal is to feel comfortable about themselves and not give a fuck about what others think.

Btw I'm not a twat, I'm a dick. And don't you forget it. Boobies.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox Channel your holier-than-thou energy to someone who cares. Even my fag friends would say you've got some pieces missing. Heterophobe

I'm not religious and I'm pretty low-brow in my comments. But you are a fake fag hag. Saying you have gay friends doesn't validate anything other than the fallacy that "gay friends = gay friendly." I had a straight friend who always went out to gay bars, but was strongly opposed to gay marriage and adoption. On the flip side, I hate faggots,...In fact, today at the gym I almost found a reason to agree with homophobes when some 45 year old fag walked into the gym with a t-shirt that said "White Boy." But I'm strongly pro gay marriage and adoption. Do you get it? Who you know doesn't necessarily say anything about your viewpoints about those people.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox Honestly, you can't be angry with someone for not being a fan of homosexuality. It's not common on such a public level in a lot of countries therefore some people are uncomfortable with it and they think it's wrong.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox I just hate when people make a big deal of being gay. If you're gay then you're gay. I don't see anything to defend. Live your life, be gay and shut the fuck up about it.

I just hate when people like you use some crappy reason to explain why gays should be tolerant of homophobes or be mindful of people who feel threatened by them, and then don't understand when gay people speak up against your crappy arguments.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel How is that an opinion? Think about it and it is true. Homophobes can't fathom homosexuality being okay in society. It is, to them, an abomination to what they have been taught their whole life. While, homosexuals don't understand why people are homophobic.

You're right. I should have linked the rest of his quote.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson just as women who wanted to vote had done to get society to end women's suffrage.

Jake, just a quick FYI... suffrage means "the right to vote"... woen who fought for the right to vote were fighting to get suffrage, not to end it.

lol, i missed that.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles People are homophobic because of one or more of the following: 1. They think it's wrong because God says so. 2. They think it's unmanly or disgraceful for a man to do. 3. They find the thought of it personally disgusting. That's about it usually.

I've never understood people who use 'it's disgusting' as a reason for homosexual marriage to be banned.
I personally find tuna to be disgusting, but I don't think that's a good enough reason for me to try and ban it...

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Jake, just a quick FYI... suffrage means "the right to vote"... woen who fought for the right to vote were fighting to get suffrage, not to end it.

...and yet, this seems to escape so many people.

Remember this?

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Originally posted by RickyM I've never understood people who use 'it's disgusting' as a reason for homosexual marriage to be banned. I personally find tuna to be disgusting,

You fuckin' TUNAPHOBE!

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Originally posted by RickyM I've never understood people who use 'it's disgusting' as a reason for homosexual marriage to be banned. I personally find tuna to be disgusting, but I don't think that's a good enough reason for me to try and ban it...

lol i used that example to a homophobe i used to work with.. but replaced tuna with liver sausage.

i actually like tuna

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard You fuckin' TUNAPHOBE!

god damn tuna sympathisers!

My personal opinion on the topic at hand has not been stated at all.
I'm going to keep it that way because it would take me pages to describe it and no one really cares.

My bottom line on this whole thing:
Tunaphobes don't understand (can't fathom) tunasexuality.
Tunasexuals don't understand (disagree with) tunaphobia.

Neither should attack the other. Just let them be.

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Originally posted by RickyM god damn tuna sympathisers!

They can't help being tuna... they're born that way.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard They can't help being tuna... they're born that way.

WRONG. Being tuna is a choice.

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Originally posted by XaNaX you forgot 4. They are closet gay themselves and because they have been told their whole life that gay = bad by their friends, family, and church they go to the extreme to hide their gayness by being a homophobe sad, but I actually knew someone like this. he became much less of a miserable twat when he finally accepted that he was gay

True, these tuna could give up their sinful ways and become cod at any point...but no; they like being what they are. Always flaunting it too...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles In other words, you disapprove of gays and have some long and convoluted way of convincing yourself that it's actually rational to do so.

lol indeed that is what it sounds like.

this thread reeeeeeeeeks with words, wow guys (and gals?), wow

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Originally posted by st3nc this thread reeeeeeeeeks with words, wow guys (and gals?), wow

WORDAPHOBE!

you guys are all homophobephobes

and fags!

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Originally posted by Ania_xox you guys are all homophobephobes and fags!

Everyone's a fag! woooooo

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Jake, just a quick FYI... suffrage means "the right to vote"... woen who fought for the right to vote were fighting to get suffrage, not to end it.

oh dyslexia. how i love thee...

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Originally posted by coroknight My bottom line on this whole thing: Tunaphobes don't understand (can't fathom) tunasexuality. Tunasexuals don't understand (disagree with) tunaphobia. Neither should attack the other. Just let them be.

I don't mind either attacking both in debate. However, I don't think tunaphobes should BAN tunasexuals from doing anything just because they are tunasexual. There's a difference between attitude/opinions, and using them to discriminate. And it's the discrimination that restricts the tunasexuals which makes them revolt ten-fold against the tunaphobes.

I fuck tuna, and I'm not afraid to say it.

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Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine I fuck tuna, and I'm not afraid to say it.

Doesn't it feel better coming out of the closet?

I call it 'coming out of the fish bowl'.

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