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Posted by Moral Hazard on Feb-12-2009 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
ok so what are you supposed to do? if you find a girl attractive and think you might want to be more than friends with her are you supposed to not tell her and just wait for something magical to happen?


ruffies


Posted by Lira on Feb-12-2009 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
ok so what are you supposed to do? if you find a girl attractive and think you might want to be more than friends with her are you supposed to not tell her and just wait for something magical to happen?

Of course not. That's far from being the only choice.

When you befriend someone, do you actually say "Hey, you're nice, I'd like to be your friend" or anything of that sort? Of course not! You just act like a friend!

Likewise, when you meet a girl you fancy, you act like it! This may include a compliment here and there, but the more you make explicit, the more likely it is to turn a woman off.


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
ok so what are you supposed to do? if you find a girl attractive and think you might want to be more than friends with her are you supposed to not tell her and just wait for something magical to happen?




doesn't matter, 99% of people won't act that way anyway because they are too scared of rejection


I don't see what there is to be afraid of when you don't have anything to lose in the first place. You walked in with no pussy, and if you fuck up you're walking out with no pussy, if you don't try it counts as fucking up since you're still walking out with no pussy.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Feb-12-2009 15:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I don't see what there is to be afraid of when you don't have anything to lose in the first place. You walked in with no pussy, and if you fuck up you're walking out with no pussy, if you don't try it counts as fucking up since you're still walking out with no pussy.


That's why picking up chicks gets easier after you're married... if you fuck up, big deal - just go home and do your wife.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-12-2009 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Of course not. That's far from being the only choice.

When you befriend someone, do you actually say "Hey, you're nice, I'd like to be your friend" or anything of that sort? Of course not! You just act like a friend!

Likewise, when you meet a girl you fancy, you act like it! This may include a compliment here and there, but the more you make explicit, the more likely it is to turn a woman off.


Being someone's friend and being someone's BF/GF are kinda different. With the BF/GF scenario their is always that turning point where you first start referring to them as your BF/GF.

With friends you usually just meet them and then start hanging out with them more and more. Their is no "yay we're friends now!" point. At least in my experience this has been the case.


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Of course not. That's far from being the only choice.

When you befriend someone, do you actually say "Hey, you're nice, I'd like to be your friend" or anything of that sort? Of course not! You just act like a friend!

Likewise, when you meet a girl you fancy, you act like it! This may include a compliment here and there, but the more you make explicit, the more likely it is to turn a woman off.


And thats why you see stuff like "I just got sexiled, so that my roommate and the girl I've been in love with for four years could hook up." on fuckmylife.com


As far as I've experienced women like honesty, and most of them are very flattered if you walk up and tell them you think they're cool, and they have a pretty smile, so you'd like to call them sometime. If they're not interested most of the time they'll still think you're cool and take it as a compliment.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Feb-12-2009 15:15:

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Originally posted by Zild
As far as I've experienced women like honesty,


Whoa whoa whoa... this is just plain incorrect. Women think they like honesty, what they really like are believable lies or half-truths. For instance... "do these jeans make my ass look fat?"... she wants you to say "no, you're ass looks great," alternatively she'll likely accept "I wouldn't say that but there's something a little odd about the cut, I think you can find a better pair," whereas the honest answer "no honey, your ass looks fat with or without the jeans," is the last thing she wants to hear.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-12-2009 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
And thats why you see stuff like "I just got sexiled, so that my roommate and the girl I've been in love with for four years could hook up." on fuckmylife.com


As far as I've experienced women like honesty, and most of them are very flattered if you walk up and tell them you think they're cool, and they have a pretty smile, so you'd like to call them sometime. If they're not interested most of the time they'll still think you're cool and take it as a compliment.


If you act like it's this huge life or death scenario then that's kinda off-putting.

If you are just honest and act like it's no big deal that's a much better approach.


Posted by Lira on Feb-12-2009 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
That's why picking up chicks gets easier after you're married... if you fuck up, big deal - just go home and do your wife.


quote:
Originally posted by Zild
And thats why you see stuff like "I just got sexiled, so that my roommate and the girl I've been in love with for four years could hook up." on fuckmylife.com

Wait, what?!
quote:
Originally posted by Zild
As far as I've experienced women like honesty, and most of them are very flattered if you walk up and tell them you think they're cool, and they have a pretty smile, so you'd like to call them sometime. If they're not interested most of the time they'll still think you're cool and take it as a compliment.

Complimenting her is quite different from talking about your feelings (refer to your post I quoted)
quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
Being someone's friend and being someone's BF/GF are kinda different. With the BF/GF scenario their is always that turning point where you first start referring to them as your BF/GF.

Yeah, but, before claiming some sort of boyfriendship over her, you're at least halfway there. You don't become a couple out of nothing.

"Oh, hai!"
"Hey!"
"Be my girlfriend?"
"Why, yes!"


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Whoa whoa whoa... this is just plain incorrect. Women think they like honesty, what they really like are believable lies or half-truths. For instance... "do these jeans make my ass look fat?"... she wants you to say "no, you're ass looks great," alternatively she'll likely accept "I wouldn't say that but there's something a little odd about the cut, I think you can find a better pair," whereas the honest answer "no honey, your ass looks fat with or without the jeans," is the last thing she wants to hear.


that's way different. i was talking about being honest about wanting to fuck them not the rest of the stuff with it total and complete lies...

do i look good... yes
do you like these jeans... yes
does my ass look fat... never your ass is amazing

etc...


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira


Wait, what?!

Complimenting her is quite different from talking about your feelings (refer to your post I quoted)


Hey as long as you make it clear you are attracted to them ASAP everything is all good. How can you have feelings for someone who you don't know?


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
this is exactly what I was talking about, not saying "hi be my girlfriend" you have to use common sense


Most of the time they say no or 'i have a boyfriend', but most of the time isn't all of the time.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-12-2009 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
this is exactly what I was talking about, not saying "hi be my girlfriend" you have to use common sense


Talk to them a bit. That way when you ask them out you have a reason other than "you're hot."


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
Talk to them a bit. That way when you ask them out you have a reason other than "you're hot."


Why? The last number I got was right after I fucked around with some random at a house party. I still haven't 'talked' to her. I've called her a few times to see if she wants to fuck, but she has a kid... I don't like kids.

someone cue the Cake song...

to me, coming from you,
friend is a four letter word.
end is the only part of the word
that I heard.
call me morbid or absurd.
but to me, coming from you,
friend is a four letter word.


when I go fishing for the words
i am wishing you would say to me,
i'm really only praying
that the words you'll soon be saying
might betray the way you feel about me


Posted by Moral Hazard on Feb-12-2009 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I still haven't 'talked' to her. I've called her a few times to see if she wants to fuck, but she has a kid... I don't like kids.


then don't fuck the kid...


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
then don't fuck the kid...


I want to eat it. Check my sig...


Posted by squirrelly on Feb-12-2009 15:36:

Pffft that whole "try to be friends and then lead into dating" thing is crap. That's just being a wimp. My boyfriend and I did NOT try to be friends first. He made his intentions clear when he asked me out 4 times (I said no the first 3) - and then when I finally said yes, we were all hot and bothered by one another and didn't try to hide it.


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
Pffft that whole "try to be friends and then lead into dating" thing is crap. That's just being a wimp. My boyfriend and I did NOT try to be friends first. He made his intentions clear when he asked me out 4 times (I said no the first 3) - and then when I finally said yes, we were all hot and bothered by one another and didn't try to hide it.


Thank you! That is another good trick too. If they say no the first time you can always try again.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-12-2009 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
no shit for fucks sake people I'm assuming you have some common sense. yes talk to them for a bit, my point is make your feelings known before you end up in the friend zone. make sure she knows when you first meet her


I've heard/read enough "this guys is so creepy blah, blah blah." Stories to know that shit isn't always common sense.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Feb-12-2009 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
That's why picking up chicks gets easier after you're married... if you fuck up, big deal - just go home and do your wife.


GOLD!


Posted by Zild on Feb-12-2009 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
there you go, an actual woman confirming what I'm saying. I like your boyfriend's approach, the way he kept asking figuring at some point you would feel bad for continuously rejecting him and say yes. if a girl is hot enough there is no reason you have to give up after the first rejection


Never give up!


Posted by squirrelly on Feb-12-2009 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Thank you! That is another good trick too. If they say no the first time you can always try again.


lol any time his friends say they won't ask out a girl b/c she has a boyfriend he's like "so? ask her out anyway. and ask her out again. persistence pays off!" It paid off for him because he was hot as hell and I totally wanted him...


Posted by squirrelly on Feb-12-2009 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
there you go, an actual woman confirming what I'm saying. I like your boyfriend's approach, the way he kept asking figuring at some point you would feel bad for continuously rejecting him and say yes. if a girl is hot enough there is no reason you have to give up after the first rejection


lol the only reason I said no to begin with is because I had a boyfriend at the time He was just like "so?"


Posted by kr00t0n on Feb-12-2009 15:57:

Of the 7 people I consider to be really close friends, only 2 are guys.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-12-2009 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
"hey I couldn't help but notice how hot you were and you seem really cool too want to be my girlfriend?" is creepy

"hey I couldn't help but notice how hot you were and you seem really cool too want to go out sometime" is not creepy


there I spelled it out for you, I'm not saying you wont get rejected but at least you know what to do


I'm not saying you guys don't know what you're talking about. In fact, I agree with you. All i'm saying is that attitude is important.


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