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Meh, I guess sitting here trying to argue whether or not the movie is good is a moot point You either get it or you don't and that will pretty much determine you're liking of the film.

Ugh god, just fuck off.

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Originally posted by bas Meh, I guess sitting here trying to argue whether or not the movie is good is a moot point You either get it or you don't and that will pretty much determine you're liking of the film.

I don't think it's a matter of "getting it" more than it is a matter of taste. It doesn't take a genius to "get it".

The whole idea that people are somehow weak for being disappointed at not getting what they were expecting is pretty off. It's completely natural to expect a certain kind of experience based on the trailer you've seen, and then be disappointed if you didn't get what you were expecting. When I'm in the mood for an action flick, I want to see an action flick. When I want to see something deeper, suddenly explosions seem cheap, so give me some complexity and subtlety. I wasn't into Dark Knight when I saw it in the theater, but when I saw it again (and again) at home, I loved it and appreciated it so much more. It's all about how it's advertised. I heard Joel Cohen say when he saw the trailer for Burn After Reading "They made it look like a comedy" when it really wasn't. It comes down to the studio creating the trailer to present the movie in the way that will likely bring the highest sales, and who can blame them. It's just too bad that this will sometimes leave the audience disappointed, when if it were advertised more accurately, they wouldn't be.

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Originally posted by Theresa I don't think it's a matter of "getting it" more than it is a matter of taste.

No. You either understood the concept and the storyline, or you went in expecting a big-time Hollywood action comic book flick and left disappointed.

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Originally posted by bas No. You either understood the concept and the storyline, or you went in expecting a big-time Hollywood action comic book flick and left disappointed.

You can understand a concept and storyline and still think that it was put together poorly.

I had 0 expectations regarding this movie. I never saw the trailers, didn't know the story... went in there completely open to whatever I was going to see.

I got the messages, I got the commentary, I understood the storyline, and I STILL disliked it.

Understanding does not equate to quality and entertainment. That's like saying because I understand a lot of the bullshit jibber jabber that goes on in the c0r, I should automatically be entertained and believe it's all quality (and we both know that that isn't true).

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Originally posted by jennypie Ugh god, just fuck off.

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Originally posted by jennypie Ugh god, just fuck off.

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Originally posted by jennypie Ugh god, just fuck off.

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Originally posted by jennypie Ugh god, just fuck off

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Originally posted by bas No. You either understood the concept and the storyline, or you went in expecting a big-time Hollywood action comic book flick and left disappointed.

So if you "got" the film there was absolutely no way you could think it was crap? What a ridiculous statement. I don't think Theresa has at any point fulfilled the "I wanted a big-time Hollywood action flick" stereotype in her replies so trying to force her into your win-win dichotomy is total bullshit, to be quite honest.

Ok.

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Originally posted by jennypie just off, god ugh fuck.

Seriously though, we're arguing over a FUCKING MOVIE. Why do we do this? Lol.

because you're a fag.

No, it's because you're dumb.

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Originally posted by jennypie That's fucking retarded, lol.

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Originally posted by Frenchie you're a fag.

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Originally posted by jennypie Seriously though, we're arguing over a FUCKING MOVIE. Why do we do this? Lol.

Because it's an interesting discussion. If you actually consider films a worthwhile medium and as deep and multi-faceted as you're describing The Watchmen then it deserves a proper discussion, rather than just stupid COR "Yeah it rocks, man"/"Yeah, it sucks, man".

It's possible to argue strongly about something without simply getting angry. It's the people who just watch stupid Hollywood explosion flicks who don't argue about them afterwards, because they've never put any thought in and never will do.

Ah hm...yes, good point. Good point.



*strokes chin*

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Originally posted by bas Why is everyone complaining about the music? It takes place in the 80s, what the fuck were they supposed to be listening to lol

This should answer your question:

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Originally posted by CSB Saw it last night, and I have to say its so long and slow.

At 2hours and 40minutes I felt the movie was too short. It felt like a Cole's note version of the source, where alot of scenes were trimmed to make sure the basic plot points were covered.

Alot of cut stuff really fleshed out the character's development, something that is rightfully criticized by viewers who havn't read the book. eg. Hollis Mason's death was never included.. why the fuck would you include him in the beginning? Also, the Minutemen's origin was summarized in a 2min credit intros.. in the book there are actual excperts for Hollis Mason's book, which is only briefly flashed onscreen in the movie.


As for Snyder, I thought he was perfect for the action scenes, as he brought style to the characters.

Overall a somewhat satisfying movie, I'm sure i will pick up the DVD to watch the extra 30minutes that will be included in the Director's cut.

4/5 stars

It looks like this film is going to fit into the "No Country for Old Men" category. Depending on what you want out of the movie, some people are going to love it and some people hate it. If you went in thinking it was going to be one thing, only to find out it's something completely different, you're rightfully going to be disappointed.

Obviously, the people who have read the graphic novel (myself included) are going to be biased because we come into it liking the material. Like I said before, I think there are definitely things you're not going to get from the movie that you get from the comic, but overall it's very faithful to the original. I already knew many of the points that the movie was trying to make, so I'm sure that helped me to like it. I did go with two other people, neither of whom have read the novel and they both enjoyed it very much...so you don't have to be a previous Watchmen fan to like it.

If you didn't like it, fine. I still think you should read the novel. It's great in its own right and might give a different perspective on the film. I don't think you need to read the novel first, or should have to in order to enjoy the movie, but I'll admit it does help.


Off topic, but any of you ever read Maus (I or II)? That, along with V for Vendetta and Sandman were the first "adult" comics that I read growing up and I think it's still my favorite. I hope to god they never make it into a movie...just wondering if anyone else has heard of it.

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Originally posted by Meat187 This should answer your question:

i fuckin LOVE THAT SONG!!! almost as much as colouring.

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Originally posted by fayraree i fuckin LOVE THAT SONG!!! almost as much as colouring.

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