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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I'm sorry you cannot tell the difference. Let me explain your own logic to you: If homosexual parents are ill-equipped to prepare their children for dealing with heterosexual issues, then clearly, your parents' heterosexuality has impeded upon your ability to fully understand homosexuality, therby making your participation in this very discussion utterly worthless because - you know - a person only knows and is prepared to deal with the things that his or her parents explain to them in life!

My point with bringing up the menstruation issue was not that the parents would be ill-equipped to prepare the child for life but that the child would have a lack of options of who to communicate with during that particular issue that might effect the mental growth of the child when dealing with sexual issues.

Idoru made a good point that the child would probably seek out the lacking emphasizing knowledge from another family member or friend.

I did not feel that my statement said "homosexual parents cannot deal with heterosexual issues." My statement was more "Children of homosexual parents may have some sort of longing to understand issues from the perspective of the sex that is absent in the family."

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Originally posted by weymouth I did not feel that my statement said "homosexual parents cannot deal with heterosexual issues." My statement was more "Children of homosexual parents may have some sort of longing to understand issues from the perspective of the sex that is absent in the family."

Wait I'm confused here. So a boy raised by two moms will not know how his dick works? Or is he supposed to find a father figure and say "hey how does your dick work?" I figured out how my dick worked without a dad. I learned in 5th grade about sex, although I had no problems messing around with naked boys and girls regardless of the fact I was raised by a single parent.

Not even close to the context of what I wrote.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson It's not illegal for a single parent to raise a child.

it should be

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced it should be

So then every time straight parents divorce, which is 50% of the time, their kids have to go up for adoption? Brilliant!

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Originally posted by idoru Sexual orientation not affected by any variable difference in your study. Who raises who, whose sperm comes from who... it doesn't make a difference. It'll be the same outcome as if you watched two heterosexual parents raise a child.

i know, but i want to scientifically prove this one way or another.

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Originally posted by nchs09 Ya, nobody would pay for that.

i'm sure there's a few out there who would

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Originally posted by Jake Benson rebuttal?

you said butt

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I'll never understand why you Log Cabin fags are against your own rights.

what about gay kids being raised by straight parents? is that somehow different than a straight kid being raised by gay parents?

FAGS WILL KILL YOU!



FAGS!

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Originally posted by samochod ^ I'll never understand why you Log Cabin fags are against your own rights.

But they change the overall opinion of Republicans from the inside-out.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp what about gay kids being raised by straight parents? is that somehow different than a straight kid being raised by gay parents?

Yes because straight parents are normal and gay children are twisted. That's why you can ONLY teach heterosexuality in hopes that gay children keep to themselves and don't open up about their sexuality. Remember: natural way, natural way. If we teach homosexuality then EVERYONE WILL CRAVE BUTTSEX!

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear BUT you go further. you want everyone to glorify and praise that sacred sexual preference of yours. But IT IS NOT a normal state and SHOULD NOT be artificially spread like some sort of upgrade/advantage for a human being. but I DO CARE for the children who are born normal (cause being straight IS a normal state of a human being) and ARTIFICIALLY deformed by their gay "parents" in the course of being brought up (it is almost inevitable when a kid grows up with two gay dads, for christ's sake!!).

1. I would imagine that *most* homosexuals do not want to "glorify" their sexual preference. They simply want to be accepted as equal and not a "deformed" human being. They want to be granted the same rights and courtesies as anyone else. They want to be treated fairly and not be judged based on their sexual preference. That is not "glorifying" anything.

2. Homosexuality is not something that is always learned. In fact, I would wager that it is a very very small population of the community that is gay because they were somehow influenced to be gay. If you think about it logically, with all the negative attention that gay people get, it's likely that many gay people would rather not be gay for the sake of "saving face". A lot of people who have attractions to the same sex have grown up with straight parents, have had normal influences in their lives just like the rest of us.

With all of that being said, having gay parents does not mean you will be gay. If you use that logic, why are there gay people to begin with? Obviously their parents were straight.

3. If you can accept that number 2 is true, why wouldn't you want to have kids who would otherwise be in the system, (where they are likely to be unloved,) have the opportunity to be with people who would genuinely care about them? Do you think it is better to have someone feel unwanted and rejected their entire lives, be outcasts, and be herded through a cold system than to let 2 gay men or women take them in and offer them a home?

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear I'm against fag couples adopting children. Is anyone an active supporter of the aforementioned? Why do you not object when you have the chance?

I am a supporter. It is better to give a child a home, a family, and love regardless of the sexual orientation of the adopters than to leave them in the system their entire lives.

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Originally posted by ownymcown personally I am against legalizing same sex marriages. my tax dollars should not go to give tax incentives for people marrying other people of the same sex. in fact, i would rather have no one get any tax breaks or any other such similar benefits from the government at all than both homosexuals and heterosexuals getting the benefits. let's just have the government represent both as civil unions (with no subsidies from the government) and leave it to the churches to call it marriage. as far as homos adopting kids, i think one would have to think in the best interests of the children. not all kids would benefit from having gay parents, so sexuality should be one of the factors they consider (like stability, income, criminal record, etc).

I am not sure I understand what you're getting at RE: tax incentives, but whatever. As for the "one would have to think in the best interests of the children. not all kids would benefit from having gay parents" comment,

How do you propose it is determined whether a child would "benefit" from a same sex marriage vs. a heterosexual marriage? That doesn't even make sense. If a child has a gay couple interested in adopting them, and somehow it is determined that they wouldn't "benefit" from a same sex marriage, then what? If there aren't any heterosexual couples interested, do you just leave them in the system? Please refer to my point #3 above.

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Originally posted by echosystm I really don't think it is ideal for a child to be brought up by a single parent, let alone in a same sex marriage.

Reality is, life is not "ideal". Regardless, why wouldn't it be "ideal" to have 2 men or women as your parents? What is the benefit of one over the other?

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Originally posted by weymouth My statement was more "Children of homosexual parents may have some sort of longing to understand issues from the perspective of the sex that is absent in the family."

I think this is a pretty valid point however, please refer to my point #3.

More children are put into the system then they come out. Why would you want to prevent children from having the opportunity to be in a loving home? More people adopting means less in the system, which overall, is a better thing for society and probably has a far greater impact on the child than the absence of one sex.

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Originally posted by punjabi I'm baffled by how many of you are getting upset at people who are against gay couples "having" kids. It's a travesty. How do you explain to a 5 year-old why he has 2 dads? Seriously...give me an exact quote of what YOU would say if you were in that situation. Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up.

Your post is a travesty.

"Well son/daughter, just like some people are black skinned, and some people are white skinned, or some people believe in Jesus and some don't, there are some boys who like boys, and some girls who like girls. Everyone is different and it's ok to be different! Because most of the time boys like girls or girls like boys, some people might tell you that it's not normal or right if you don't, but that isn't true. It just means that they don't understand others who aren't like them."

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Originally posted by weymouth On March 10, 2006, Catholic Charities of Boston quit providing adoption services when Massachusetts anti-discrimination laws forced them to allow married same-sex couples to adopt, which has been prohibited by church doctrine. Swedish Pastor Ake Green was sentenced to jail in June of 2004 for one month having been found guilty of offending homosexuals in a sermon under Sweden�s law against incitement. In April of 2004 it became illegal to publicly express disapproval of homosexual behavior in Canada under an amendment to the hate propaganda laws. source: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Fa...sequencesMD.cfm

That isn't infringing on peoples rights, that's enforcing peoples rights. Every person has the right to be treated equally, fairly and be able to live their lives without harm both physically, and socially. These situations are just forcing people to stop being so ignorant and not infringe on the rights of gays and straights alike.

What next, we're gonna let the fags drink from our water fountain as well? Eat at the same restaurants as us?

This is an outrage.

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Originally posted by Renzo What next, we're gonna let the fags drink from our water fountain as well? Eat at the same restaurants as us?

blasphemy. this is madness...

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Originally posted by Renzo What next, we're gonna let the fags drink from our water fountain as well? Eat at the same restaurants as us? This is an outrage.

I really hope we're not talking about a smoking hot fag here. We'd all get a fucking lung cancer!

Jake Benson " And if you don't want to offer babies to gays, then why not deny access to black people too? "

? Does not compute.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Agreed. Here are more factors to consider. Not all kids would benefit from having Muslim parents, because some of them are terrorists. Not all kids would benefit from having black parents, because some of them are poor, speak Ebonics, listen to rap, and steal. Not all kids would benefit from having Mormon parents, because some male Mormon's have too many wives and the kids won't know which mommy to look up to. Not all kids would benefit from having people who used to go to raves as parents, because some of them did drugs and have warped brains. Not all kids would benefit from having Jews as parents, because many of them are hypochondriacs and worry more about money than their own kids. Not all kids would benefit from having Latinos as parents, because some of them are wetbacks and can barely support themselves let alone sit up-right because they drink too much. Not all kids would benefit from having Native Americans as parents, because some own casinos and gambling is wrong. Not all kids would benefit from having dancers as parents, because most of them stop dancing at 40 and then some can't find a stable income thereafter.

How to win friends and infuence people !
You may take a fair bit of stick on here but THAT my friend, is Epic .Rrrrespec .I salute you.

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Originally posted by Sandsider How to win friends and infuence people ! You may take a fair bit of stick on here but THAT my friend, is Epic .Rrrrespec .I salute you.

Wow, you're a fucking idiot. You mean you didn't sense my total sarcasm at all? hahahahaha

I gave fake trivial reasons to adopt showing that ANY group of people can be just as bad, IF NOT WORSE, than homosexuals. That clearly went over your head. Why are so many stupid people posting in the c0r?

I LOVE YOU THERESA.

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Originally posted by Sandsider Jake Benson " And if you don't want to offer babies to gays, then why not deny access to black people too? " ? Does not compute.

Statistically black people are jailed more than gays, making it less possible to rear children because they are not there and are apparently more dangerous. So according to Boris the Bearback's "normal" theory, shouldn't we not offer babies to all blacks either too? I'm trying to understand what is considered "normal" here because apparently no one has given one reason why two gay parents who raise an un-normal child.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Wow, you're a fucking idiot. You mean you didn't sense my total sarcasm at all? hahahahaha I gave fake trivial reasons to adopt showing that ANY group of people can be just as bad, IF NOT WORSE, than homosexuals. That clearly went over your head. Why are so many stupid people posting in the c0r?

NO no no no , I totally got what you did there and fully appreciated it - you foo

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Originally posted by Sandsider NO no no no , I totally got what you did there and fully appreciated it - you foo

*oh*

That must mean then that I'M A TOTALLY FUCKING IDIOT.

My bad Sandsider, I got too much sand in my vagina and got all wound up. My bad. Accept my bad?

I think I read too fast and don't actually READ, which is a major downfall of my online shenanigans. I feel like that guy that's like "ahhhh take that" shooting all the enemies and then I accidentally shoot you and am now like "ahhhh fuck me."

I'm embarrassed now. You saluted me and then I pissed all over you. Listen to my "I'm Alone" track below. If you like the original or remix or both I'll give em to you.

I forgive you.

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Originally posted by Sandsider I forgive you.

I am happy now. I will live with you quoting me to remind me that I am an idiot. hahahah

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That isn't infringing on peoples rights, that's enforcing peoples rights. Every person has the right to be treated equally, fairly and be able to live their lives without harm both physically, and socially. These situations are just forcing people to stop being so ignorant and not infringe on the rights of gays and straights alike.

You can't force people to your view point out of labeling someone "ignorant" just to do it regardless of how right you might think it is. The last thing we need is the government coming into our homes, work places, and places of worship telling us what to think, act, and feel out of fear of persecution. It's obvious from your statement that you want to abolish any form of religion or free thinking that does not correspond with your world view. I'm amazed someone like this actually exists in America.

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