TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Production Studio
-- What kind of performance boost can I expect with this upgrade?
Pages (9): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [8] 9 »

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir Subtle started it. :P

Yeah i know, but you asked for it.

quote:

Originally posted by Subtle LOL Here we go again.

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir If you have something to say, say it.

....and then we got +15 pages of Cronobabble

and if I know you right, we`re still counting.

Oh and yeah, might as well add this too:

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir I use 2048 samples in ASIO. And I never get clicks or pops. Do you have some reason NOT to set your sound card to a high latency?

How is explaining the reason for NOT setting the soundcard to high latency, saying that you are wrong in any way, as you claim I did ?

Because i just told you a reason for not using high latency on the sound card you know, nothing more.

quote:

Originally posted by Subtle Yeah i know, but you asked for it. ....and then we got +15 pages of Cronobabble and if I know you right, we`re still counting. Oh and yeah, might as well add this too: How is explaining the reason for NOT setting the soundcard to high latency, saying that you are wrong in any way, as you claim I did ? Because i just told you a reason for not using high latency on the sound card you know, nothing more.

Its almost as if you don't love me anymore Subtle :P

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir Its almost as if you don't love me anymore Subtle :P

I guess i would not be here if that were true.

just stick with 44,1khz 16bit.




oh that was the other thread

Sometimes i wish i could beam ideas into people's heads. My only question to chrono is: Why make production harder when you don't have to? I'm sure you can make your tracks with crazy latency but if you don't have to then why?

I'd much rather be able to hear the sound of my synth than mute it and listen to the built-in keyboard sounds.

And also it's really offensive implying that EDM producers aren't real musicians. It's really fucking tough to get into especially if you have very little musical background. And it's not like this is any different with other genre's. I've seen plenty of kids in music shops buying guitars and hoping to be the next big rock star.

quote:

Originally posted by coroknight Sometimes i wish i could beam ideas into people's heads. My only question to chrono is: Why make production harder when you don't have to? I'm sure you can make your tracks with crazy latency but if you don't have to then why? I'd much rather be able to hear the sound of my synth than mute it and listen to the built-in keyboard sounds. And also it's really offensive implying that EDM producers aren't real musicians. It's really fucking tough to get into especially if you have very little musical background. And it's not like this is any different with other genre's. I've seen plenty of kids in music shops buying guitars and hoping to be the next big rock star.

Don�t bother. Best to leave it alone.

quote:

Originally posted by palm just stick with 44,1khz 16bit. oh that was the other thread

Genius. (but it's 24 96 anyway )

quote:

Originally posted by Robby Rox I finally have come to understand the purpose of a forum moderator.. they save people from themselves, and their inability to understand just because people are replying to your comments and collectively hating you, doesn't mean you wouldn't look better in real life having a conversation with a wall. I'll be the first to say I started this thread. My thread has been raped, defiled and humiliated. I don't care, the only thing I care about is that it dies as soon as possible. Everyone else, including myself must understand cronos weak point is his inability to stop responding to hate. Act like you love him and agree with him, or act like this thread doesn't exist. Otherwise this thread WILL NOT DIE. plzz support the effort to kill it, muchos gracias

+1. I'm unsubbing from this.

quote:

Originally posted by Beyer Don�t bother. Best to leave it alone.

Solved as above. I suggest everyone else does the same.

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir I wonder if I have mirrored you guys yet, guess I have to wait till Eddie comes back huh?

Crono, I have to admit that you provide an interesting counter-point to sound reasoning and flawless logic.

Unfortunately, if you're mirroring anyone, it's only because you've created a tortured feedback loop. You've also spent an inordinate amount of effort trying to convince anyone (perhaps, including yourself) about the validity of your "truth".

If there is a troll in this thread, Subtle managed to tease you having another conniption. He spent very little effort but managed to press your buttons (albeit with significant latency) to achieve the desired result - another invective filled tirade with bitter complaints about your own maltreatment.

At almost every interaction, not limited to Subtle's posts, you've chosen to adopt a contrary view-point. Your opinions have either been uninformed or poorly informed by your limited experience. When confronted with knowledge clearly superior to your own, you've chosen, instead, to hunker down with obstinacy, as though actually, completely, and unreservedly agreeing with someone would somehow invalidate your existence.

You clearly obtain something from your pernicious existence, here. I'm not wasting anymore time postulating what that might be, but it would seem that you clearly want what you've gotten. It's as though you've taken passive-aggression to a new high which is boiled down, thusly:

Anyone: AB = A + B

Cronodevir: True, but A - B is also = AB when B = the square-root of A times -1 and A = 4 before A and B are actually added, at which time A = 2, hence A - B = AB = 4.

People's actions do not have to be a reaction to something.

Besides, denying what I say is denying objective reality.

you do have a tendency to not try and understand why you might be wrong. Regardless of the situation , i think you should try to think about the other side a little longer. Just breath, breath again, then reply. I've had to learn this the hard way.

Except Ive been doing things the way that works best for a long time. for all intents and purposes, when someone suggests something else, they are wrong.

Especially considering that the priorities between people are so vastly different. My priorities are sound quality. So I use high latency. With these priorities. Low latency is wrong. It is incorrect. And there is no reason for me to understand why someone else needs it.

A. Because whether I understand it or not, doesn't effect them.

B. Its not relevant to me. It will not ever be relevant to me.

As far as I am concerned my world of music does not and will not, for instance, ever have anything to do with recording a hardware synthesizer. So any information or methods that benefit the recording of a hardware synthesizer are completely useless and irrelevant. They are wrong. And that should be enough.

I don't have to "be nice" and validate anyone elses methods by saying "That is what works for you." Its implied that it works for you because you use it. My input is not required. My acknowledgment is irrelevant to the issue. So I say that is wrong, and that is that. And because I said it, and because everyone understands [I hope] the nature of the discussion, its implied that when I said that, that it was my opinion. In the context of the discussion, for me to state a fact, would require me to say its a fact. Further more, interpretation of my statement as a fact would be invalid based on the nature of the discussion. So when people say I claiming that "only my way is right" is wrong, they are right in two ways.

A. My way is the only way that is right, because its my opinion, and the method that works for me, and we know that because this is a discussion based on opinions.

B. I couldn't be stating that only my way is right for everyone, because this is a discussion based on opinions, and Ive never stated that it was a fact.

As mentioned before, if you are going to share your thoughts on the internet you need to be able to understand the context, the subject, and the implications of such, before you even say one word. The only time Ive ever been in an argument with someone, is when they, on their part, failed to do so.

Debate isn't "Read and sentence, decide if you agree or disagree, state why." That isn't how it works. That isn't even how normal communication works.

After all that, you guys are still thinking "this guy is stubborn and can't see the obvious" lol. I'm on a completely different page.

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir Except Ive been doing things the way that works best for a long time. for all intents and purposes, when someone suggests something else, they are wrong. Especially considering that the priorities between people are so vastly different. My priorities are sound quality. So I use high latency. With these priorities. Low latency is wrong. It is incorrect. And there is no reason for me to understand why someone else needs it.

Latency has no bearing on quality. Understand that latency is relative. if low latency works without any glitches, then assume that it is a "good" latency. If you could use low latency without any adverse effects , would you ? What possible reason could you use to not use a feature that will not have any negative effects ?

You have to understand that to you , high latency has a benifit because you have a soundcard that can't handle lower latencies. You also have to understand that many people have cards that can handle 512 and lower with no negative effects.

Your advice is only right in your situation. That would make anyone else that disagrees with your advice wrong if they have your setup. I am almost certain they don't because all their arguments are based off the same one as mine that lower latencies are not an issue for them. Your logic is wrong and that is why people are being so fussy.

quote:

Originally posted by EddieZilker Your opinions have either been uninformed or poorly informed by your limited experience. When confronted with knowledge clearly superior to your own, you've chosen, instead, to hunker down with obstinacy, as though actually, completely, and unreservedly agreeing with someone would somehow invalidate your existence.

quote:

Originally posted by RichieV quote: Originally posted by cronodevir Except Ive been doing things the way that works best for a long time. for all intents and purposes, when someone suggests something else, they are wrong. Especially considering that the priorities between people are so vastly different. My priorities are sound quality. So I use high latency. With these priorities. Low latency is wrong. It is incorrect. And there is no reason for me to understand why someone else needs it. Your advice is only right in your situation. That would make anyone else that disagrees with your advice wrong if they have your setup. I am almost certain they don't because all their arguments are based off the same one as mine that lower latencies are not an issue for them. Your logic is wrong and that is why people are being so fussy.

See the pattern, yet?

i guess i feel like I can still somehow get thru. I wish my girlfriend was as patient.

quote:

Originally posted by RichieV i guess i feel like I can still somehow get thru. I wish my girlfriend was as patient.

All conflict is based in fallacy.

My logic isn't wrong, people are being fussy because I choose to not show any regard to their situations, because I don't care about them. My logic is flawless. Because it doesn't accept others as relevant does not make it illogical.

You want me to say "its wrong for me" instead of "its wrong". And I won't. Because it serves no purpose. Your feelings and your views are hardly relevant. What works for you is not part of my scope, so acknowledging it is not a requirement.

And that is what people are fussy about, and as a scape goat or form of insult they want to say "your logic is flawed". Rather than accept that I don't have to acknowledge them or their views as relevant to my life or scope. And further more, this stance explains why I am seen as arrogant or selfish or elitist.

Also, we are only talking about opinions here, not facts, there is no "fact" in saying high latency is better than low or vice versa.

So I say "Why not use high latency?", and you say "Because you have to wait for the sound to come on a midi controller." , and I say "I am not using hardware, there for your assumption is wrong." My statement is correct. And your assumption is wrong, incorrect, invalid. Because its not relevant to me.

Don't know how I can spell it out any further.

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir My logic isn't wrong, people are being fussy because I choose to not show any regard to their situations, because I don't care about them. My logic is flawless, blah, blah, blah...

If your posts are only relevant to you, why post?

Please try to answer yes or no

you said you use high latency because sound quality is the only priority?

You understand that quality and latency are not related?

Do you understand that making associations between things that are not related an example of illogical thought ?

quote:

Originally posted by EddieZilker If your posts are only relevant to you, why post?

most people would call that illogical.

quote:

Originally posted by RichieV most people would call that illogical.

Well, I deal exclusively in unqualified opinions and treat each one I regard as though it were an iron-clad fact. My thinking is not limited to something which makes sense to everyday people; only the local absurdists who talk about how trees are vanishing because pink birds fly out of the barn on Sundays. Of course, no one can prove that pink birds fly out of barns, or stables for that matter, but what can be proven is that trees vanish, hence the aforementioned reasoning as to why they vanish is absolutely correct, because I can conceive of it.

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir Your feelings and your views are hardly relevant. What works for you is not part of my scope, so acknowledging it is not a requirement.

That makes everything you say totally meaningless and irrelevant in any case.

You then have no objective view whatsoever, therefore discussing anything with you serves no purpose at all.

Also, why would you even be on this forum if peoples experiences, views and opinions does not matter to you at all.

To share. Sharing can be a one way experience you know. All this applies to this discussion. Or any discussion in general where its based on peoples opinions.

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir To share. Sharing can be a one way experience you know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwppplxq0yo

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir To share. Sharing can be a one way experience you know. All this applies to this discussion. Or any discussion in general where its based on peoples opinions.

I see, so you`re only here to share your great experiences and provide us all with valuable information and opinions from the Cronoworld.

What a great guy!

quote:

Originally posted by cronodevir To share. Sharing can be a one way experience you know. All this applies to this discussion. Or any discussion in general where its based on peoples opinions.

maybe you should ask for your own sub forum. Although in your defence, you are really the only thing that is keeping me here so long this time. I usually pop in and out for a week every few months.


ok my last attempt and then i give up



"Higher latency will have a better audio quality no matter what the setup"


this is wrong, it is illogical and if it was something a psychiatrist had previous knowledge in , he would start probing you for schizophrenia because you are displaying some overt symptoms.

quote:

Originally posted by RichieV maybe you should ask for your own sub forum. Although in your defence, you are really the only thing that is keeping me here so long this time. I usually pop in and out for a week every few months.

Agree with him or not, cronodevir does generate substantial discussion.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.